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Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
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Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
Here in Brazil too. Ten years ago the Brazilian government says it will migrate to free software. But still using Windows, iPhone and iPad. I know all countries are equal, Windows is everywhere. I do not know of a country that Windows is below 80% usage.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
If it were me, I would use the extra money to market the OS and improve things that need to be improved by throwing some compensation to the core programmers and artists. In return, that would mean less stress on everyone as more people are available to tighten things up and get quicker releases. Of course once you start paying people, you have to maintain it or else people may leave. How does the FSF do it? If that money was spent to maintain Debian testing or unstable (which Linux Mint and Ubuntu already do), it would be a waste of time and resources. You guys have already did a great job in filtering out the Ubuntu main and universe repositories and bringing in the libre kernel. If you guys want to make this OS more than a niche OS in an already niche Linux desktop market, then I am all for it. Wouldn't it be nice to get more people off of Windows in the places where it matters? I'm talking schools, government offices, and maybe even small businesses. I live in the US and understand that in Europe things run differently regarding business, but Microsoft pretty much rules everything here.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
80 thousand US dollars? Or was the k a typo. I nearly did a cereal spitting meme impression.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
On 15/03/12 11:22, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: > I think if each Trisquel user donates 80k USD a year the project could > easily move to Debian and retain the stability and remain up to date as > Ubuntu is. > > Who is with me? Sadly not I. In reviewing my sub-poverty line income I have already decided to forgo the coffee I had when out on my weekly shop so I could pay for a FSF membership. And also decided to pass on the benefit of not being harrassed by drunks and youths in the Bus Station in my one late evening trip that I used to travel by minicab home from so I could afford the 10 € Trisquel monthly membership fee. Non-members think this is a piece of cheap emotional blackmail trying to get them to join they'd be damned right. But, that doesn't stop it being true that you should put your money where your mouth is when it comes to your principles and that the memberships are affordable even on very limited incomes if you just make a little effort. Go on non-members 5 € is two coffees a month in the UK. Leny
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
On 03/15/2012 07:22 AM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com wrote: I think if each Trisquel user donates 80k USD a year the project could easily move to Debian and retain the stability and remain up to date as Ubuntu is. Who is with me? $80,000 per person per year??
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
I think if each Trisquel user donates 80k USD a year the project could easily move to Debian and retain the stability and remain up to date as Ubuntu is. Who is with me?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
[http://www.gnewsense.org/ gNewSense] was based on Ubuntu but are moving onto Debian, i.e. the mirror move compared to Trisquel. [http://www.gnewsense.org/FAQ#Will_gNewSense_3.0_be_based_on_Debian_instead_of_Ubuntu.2C_and_why.3F Here] are their reasons for doing so. I think they thus have a more solid foundation than we do. However, we currently have more up-to-date releases. I'm happy we have both alternatives.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
I can think of two reasons: quality control and package support. Debian on testing and sid repositories is really the wild west. Packages are put out there and many times it will break. When Linux Mint offered a Debian version, they had to move to Update Packs where the team locked down a repository, tested the heck out of it, and released through their update manager. Even then there are issues and maintaining that release has been a lot of work and the Update Packs are few and far in-between. The Ubuntu based versions of Mint are still more recommended. Ubuntu essentially does the same thing with locking down packages before a release and will often use older versions to make sure everything works. There is a post by Jeremy Bicha about the Ubuntu team swapping out Gnome versions for performance and to ease performance issues. There is also recent news that Gnome 3.4 will make it into 12.04 and they are hard at work fixing bugs. It is good that they do that because with Debian, they are just put out there and maybe it works. Maybe it doesn't. As for package support, not only is Ubuntu generally more supported with popular packages and mirrors serving them, but the PPAs at launchpad.net are the icing on the cake. I've tried pure Debian and LMDE and the quality of packages (support and latest versions) by 3rd parties is night and day. Now don't get me wrong.. Debian Stable is considered rock solid even though the packages are old and it is supported for 2 years. Its just that Ubuntu LTS releases on the desktop and server have 5 years of support so you will be updating your OS less on Ubuntu than Debian. The best part of using Ubuntu? You don't have to use the official versions. You can try any desktop available and derivatives like Trisquel with the rock solid Ubuntu foundation to build upon.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why were the repos of Trisquel changed from Debian to Ubuntu?
Debian doesn't use FSF definition for free software, but its own instead. Ubuntu's main and universe repositories contain only free software as defined by FSF (but some packages require cleaning up so they don't recommend non-free software).
