Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

apertium-tolk doesn't work right. ;(


(python-glade2 already installed)

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[mnaus]

"apertium-tolk doesn't work right. ;("

If you give more details it will be easier to help you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[greatgnu]

Hmm, I just installed it on this installation and it won't run without  
python-glade2


gnu@debian:~$ apertium-tolk
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/apertium-tolk", line 19, in
import tolk
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/tolk/__init__.py", line 1, in
from i18n import _
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/tolk/i18n.py", line 2, in
import gtk.glade
ImportError: No module named glade


So then I installed the missing package as already mentioned and it works  
just fine.

Write in terminal:
apertium-tolk

and give us the output

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

/usr/bin/apertium-tolk:69: GtkWarning: IA__gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size:  
assertion 'icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed
  self.glade = tolk.GladeXML(path) # Instantiate our custom Glade class which  
extends the gtk.glade.GladeXML class

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[greatgnu]

I have no idea, srry.
I can only assure you it works fine here :(

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

😭  
😭😭

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[Ignacio Agulló]

alejandr...@openmailbox.org, Mar 24 Mai 2016 12:31:48 CEST:


? ??



Subject should be "How not to translate sentences".  :-P


Ignacio Agulló · agu...@ati.es


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Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

I use https://translate.g00gl3.*/ to translate. Could you recommend something  
similar?


* I hate G00gl3 because of they steal our ideas, data and our lives.

#SoftwareLibre

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

There should be a Libre alternative to the site  
https://translate.google.com/, where no data is recollected and used against  
users.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[taknamay]

http://fosmt.org/ may help you

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[Adonay Felipe Nogueira]

Use Apertium.

If you want to use Apertium graphically (in a user-friendly way),
install "apertium-tolk" (with the O letter). Of course, you can also
visit the project's official site and download the latest version and
dictionaries. And it's advised that you contribute to Apertium in some
way too. They really need it!

Don't recommend web translators because they are services as software
substitutes (look up for this term in GNU.org to find out more about the
dangers. I can't give links nouw because I'm somewhat late).

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[gnuser]

Hey guys.

I have installed apertium, apertium-tolk, python-glade2, and all the  
available languages. However both in command line and in GUI it only  
translates the first word. For example:


"Hello my good friend"
only gives me "Hola".

Is something wrong on my part??
When run from command line it says "Error: Unknown error matching regexp  
(code -28)"

Also when I run the GUI from command line it says
"/usr/bin/apertium-tolk:69: GtkWarning: IA__gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size:  
assertion 'icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed
  self.glade = tolk.GladeXML(path) # Instantiate our custom Glade class which  
extends the gtk.glade.GladeXML class"



Another thing I would like to say is that it would be cool if we could "cross  
translate" using the available translations. For example, translate from  
english to spanish and then from spanish to another language that has no  
direct translation from english. I tried it using the online version and it  
worked (with the obvious mistakes one was to expect).

Another good thing would be to have a way to translate subtitles with this ;)

Maybe I should stop asking for things to happen and should instead get off my  
ass and do a little programming... :P


Hope someone can help with the error  mentioned above. 

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[mcz]

Maybe try to delete and reinstall again. I doubt just restating the computer  
would fix anything here.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[onpon4]

Tor would do that just fine. The real problem with Google Translate is that  
it's SaaSS.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[gnuser]

Already tried and it doesn't work any better.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[mnaus]

A couple of silly questions:
1.) What happens without using quotes
2.) What happens using single quotes 'Hello my good friend'  instead of  
"Hello my good friend"

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[greatgnu]

that is not the reason why it is not working. What is the version of apertium  
in Trisquello? Here, apertium=3.1.0-2 and apertium-tolk=0.2-2.2

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[gnuser]

Hey there.
That's the same version. For both.
I have tried actually using a file as input and the same thing happens. So,  
not sure why it happens.
It would be a convenience if it was working. I didn't know there were offline  
alternatives to google translator, and certainly not free ones as good as  
apertium.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

Tor provides anonymity, but companies still receive data. :(

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[onpon4]

Yeah, that's because it's SaaSS. The only solution to this is for the  
translation software to be running on your own computer and libre. You can't  
solve SaaSS by creating an alternative SaaSS solution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

1. apertium version on its web is: 3.3.2. (2016-01-02)

When will Trisquel update this package?

2. apertium has a translation web: https://www.apertium.org. Could we use it  
or we must not because it is a SaaS?


Thanks,

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[gnuser]

1. Probably when Ubuntu does (maybe Trisquel 8, not sure).
2. It's SaaSS but it's better than using google... Perfect would be to use  
apertium in your own computer (hopefully you will have it running better than  
I do).

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

es-en doesn't work.
And other translations are not as good as they should be. :(

Please, someone recommend a good free translator. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

😱

Gracias. A ver si esa versión funciona bien, de verdad.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[greatgnu]

> I successfully installed it (.deb after .deb) on Trisquel 7 but it does not  
work


How about compiling the sources? I've read the instructions in the readme  
file - pretty straightforward.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[alejandrohp]

Trisquel 8 is near, right? Maybe this month. :|

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[jason]

No it's not. Trisquel is released roughly every 2 years. Please don't expect  
8 until closer to the end of 2016. Possibly not even until 2017.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

[greatgnu]

You should check **apertium**, I have used it to translate from English to  
Spanish and it worked really great.
Problem is apertium supports only a few languages so far, but they are  
planning to add more in the future. Anyway the program works great and is  
quite powerful.


sudo apt-get install apertium apertium-tolk apertium-en-es

**aptitude search apertium** will show you the translation packages available



gnu@debian:~$ aptitude search apertium
p   apertium-  
Shallow-transfer machine translation engine
p   apertium-dbus   -  
A D-Bus service for the Apertium machine translation system
p   apertium-en-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between English and Catalan
p   apertium-en-es  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between English and Spanish
p   apertium-eo-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Esperanto and Catalan
p   apertium-eo-es  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Esperanto and Spanish
p   apertium-es-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Spanish and Catalan
p   apertium-es-gl  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Spanish and Galician
p   apertium-es-pt  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Spanish and Portuguese
p   apertium-es-ro  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Spanish and Romanian
p   apertium-eu-es  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Basque and Spanish
p   apertium-fr-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between French and Catalan
p   apertium-fr-es  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between French and Spanish
p   apertium-oc-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Occitan and Catalan
p   apertium-oc-es  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Occitan and Spanish

v   apertium-pcre2  -
p   apertium-pt-ca  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Portuguese and Catalan
p   apertium-pt-gl  -  
Apertium linguistic data to translate between Portuguese and Galician
p   apertium-tolk   -  
Graphical user interface for Apertium

v   libapertium3-
p   libapertium3-3.1-0  -  
Shared library for Apertium
p   libapertium3-3.1-0-dev  -  
Development library for Apertium

v   libapertium3-dev-