Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-26 Thread andre . buesgen
Thanks everyone for your input. I went for a SSD/HDD hybrid and placed my  
order this weekend.

I'm already excited for my first fully libre PC.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-20 Thread info
For you, I would probably recommend the SSD for Trisquel (/ and swap), and  
the 1TB HDD for extra data storage (/home). RAID is only really used in  
enterprises, where continuous operation is required in the case of disk  
failure; for simple laptop use-case by domestic users (or  
non-mission-critical), you'd still have the other drive which you'd be able  
to re-partition to install Trisquel onto, if one of the drives did fail.


RAID0 on 2 HDDs won't give much performance benefit in practise, and will  
still fall below SSD speeds.


As long as you keep backups of your data (which is advisable anyway, even  
with RAID) onto external data, non-RAID is fine for most people. With  
SSD+HDD, you get the best of both worlds: fast operation for your OS, and  
vast data storage besides that.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-20 Thread andre . buesgen

Thank you for your input.
I consider either buying a SSD+HDD-Hybrid or i go for RAID with 2 HDDs.

But I couldn't decide for one of the options yet.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-20 Thread info
For instance, wear leveling means that parts of your data might be stored on  
the drive and you have no way of wiping it, when the controller in the SSD  
remaps flash cells.


Encrypting that is useful for security purposes. Encryption always (emphasis  
on the word always) improves your security and privacy (obviously, depending  
on the key strength, what algorithms you use, what software you use - e.g.  
luks/dm-crypt).


I use encryption and RAID1 on 2 SSDs (different brands, to avoid having  
similar MTBF) on my own T400 that I use. I don't notice any real CPU overhead  
or performance issues with it.


RAID0 or RAID1 on 2 1TB HDDs will also give you a noticeable performance  
increase, over just 1 HDD. It won't be as fast as an SSD, of course. If you  
use RAID1, an optimized setup will at least mean that read speeds will be  
higher, while you get extra guarantee against data loss. I generally  
recommend RAID1 instead of RAID0 - the performance gain with RAID0 compared  
to RAID1 isn't actually that much, in the real world, because of how RAID  
drivers work.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-20 Thread andre . buesgen
The article indeed says that an SSD + encryption causes problems in terms of  
privacy but they haven't given any source or evidence for this claim.

Even though I'm still not perfectly sure which setup suits my needs best.

Maybe RAID0 with two 1TB HDDs and full disk encryption is the best option for  
me.
With this i could get faster read/write performance and I'd have 2TB space  
for my data.


Does anyone have experience with the RAID0 performance on the T400 with full  
disk encryption?
The CPU will have the overhead for RAID0 and the overhead of  
encrypting/decrypting data on the fly.

My question is: Will there be a big performance hit?


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-19 Thread info

In my experience, encryption on an SSD doesn't cause any performance issues.

I've been using full disk encryption (including /boot/) on my SSD for a year  
now with no problems.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-19 Thread svhaab
The internal ssd software may undo the effectiveness of the encryption. In  
german  
http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/verschluesselungssoftware-veracrypt-unabhaengige.684.de.html?dram:article_id=369309




Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-19 Thread andre . buesgen

Thanks everyone for your input :-).
However one question just came to my mind:
What about full disk encryption?
I heard that SSDs don't like this because the whole drive appears as if it  
was full and that the SSD can't do wear leveling. Is there any substance to  
that?


I will use the Laptop primarily on travels for work so i want the data to be  
encrypted.
I don't know much about hardware as I'm just a scientific software developer  
but i'd like to learn what you know :-D.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread jbahn
And then there is the issue about swap. Some say you shouldn't use swap on  
ssd, some say it doesn't matter and some say it isn't even necessary...


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread info

Yes, the default is to use tmpfs for /tmp


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread mcz
I doubt programming requires anything specific (I suppose compiling  is  
faster with a strong enough CPU).


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread enduzzer
SSD as a boot drive will make your boot simply Blitzkrieg. It doesn't help if  
software is slow but it makes them open faster.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread netatsled

The difference between SSD and HDD is from night to day.


Re: [Trisquel-users] SSD vs. HDD in Librebooted T400

2017-06-18 Thread info

Hi :)

For most people, no real performance issues will be noticed with HDDs.  
Applications are cached in memory during normal operation, for programs that  
you're running regularly. So if you're usually running a browser and an email  
client, maybe a few terminals, then you won't really notice any speed issues  
with HDDs.


SSDs help in terms of boot times, and for non-cached operations (where data  
is being directly read from or written to the disk, constantly). SSDs are  
also lighter on power usage, so battery life would be higher.


If storage is a priority, then most 1TB HDDs should do nicely. Minifree sells  
Libreboot T400 if you're interested; with 1TB HDD, it's currently 248 EUR:

https://minifree.org/product/libreboot-t400/

The best of both worlds is SSD+HDD. The T400 can have 2 storage drives (2nd  
drive goes in the DVD slot, replacing the DVD drive). So if you wanted extra  
speed and more storage space, that would be my advice. Minifree also sells  
that :)


~Leah