Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-08 Thread d . a . capeletti
Hi, I just tried debian testing kde downloaded from this link  
http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/distributions/debian-cdimage/weekly-live-builds/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-testing-amd64-kde.iso  
and the problem is the same as in debian 10.4 stable. When I try it live, I  
still can't activate my wifi. I don't want to reinstall a system for the  
third time on my disk and not be able to activate the wifi, I will stay in  
debian 9 until someone publishes a tested and effective solution to this  
problem.


Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-07 Thread xliang9550
I suspect that there's something fishy about your card. Do you have any other  
Atheros card for testing?


If you want to try Debian testing (semi-rolling) or unstable (rolling), go to  
Developers' Corner -> Debian Installer, and then pick an appropriate image  
for you. (You may probably need to use the amd64-architecture, weekly-built  
DVD image.)


The installer image I use is updated every week, and I don't download the  
iso-format image. Instead, I use jigdo to update the image incrementally. So  
I don't download it via any URL. Follow the instructions on the Debian  
Installer page if you want to give it a try.


Finally, Debian Live images are not designed as installation media. They  
focus on globalization support (i.e., they contain lots of language packages  
which you probably won't need), so they are big in size but contain  
(relatively) very few software packages. Use binary installation media  
instead.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-07 Thread xliang9550
I used to think that beginners should start with using a stable edition.  
However, when they want to try something new, they probably run into such  
problems like obsolete kernel or outdated dependencies. Furthermore, bugs in  
stable editions get fixed very slowly, if not never.


By contrast, a (semi-)rolling released distribution always ship latest  
packages, offering better hardware support and productivity. Users can learn  
to contribute very quickly by participating development, even if what they  
can do is to report bugs or request new features. If they want to try  
something new, they needn't to worry about latest dependencies.


This is why I no longer recommend others to use Trisquel or Debian stable.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-07 Thread d . a . capeletti
Check, why older Debian distributions are more compatible with my Wifi than  
with newer Debian versions. The truth is that I understand that with each new  
version it should be better, but in my case it is just the opposite.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-07 Thread jason
"Ultimately, why must you use a stable version? I never recommend personal  
users, especially beginners to choose stable version (let alone an LTS one)."


I suppose that excludes Trisquel then since it's both stable and LTS. I go  
with stable and LTS because I like my GNU/Linux distros to be boring and  
uneventful. Specifically: Releases that happen at 2 - 5 year intervals and  
where package version numbers are frozen in time on release. This lets me  
work on the things I want to work on and not spending my time on fixing the  
distro. Can't remember where I heard this one: "The bleeding edge is stained  
by the blood of the users."


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-07 Thread d . a . capeletti
The problem I have is with the image debian-live-10.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso in  
previous messages I passed the image I downloaded. Can you pass me the URL of  
the image you propose to test?


Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-06 Thread xliang9550
I've just tested Debian 10.4 Live system with another Atheros card (AR9462)  
and everything is fine.


Ultimately, why must you use a stable version? I never recommend personal  
users, especially beginners to choose stable version (let alone an LTS one).  
In my opinion, stable version is only suitable for such entities as  
government agencies and corporations.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-06 Thread d . a . capeletti
I have not tried it, twice I have already formatted my pc, once with Debian  
10 kde and another time with Debian 10 gnome and they present the same  
problem. In these days I will try to install for last time Debian 10 and to  
execute the indicated solution. Otherwise I will return to Debian 9 and wait  
for another stable version of Debian.


Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-06 Thread d . a . capeletti
Hi, I don't quite understand how I'm supposed to edit exactly. The file  
contains this line:



GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""


What I should put is:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi=off"

Please could you confirm me. Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-05 Thread d . a . capeletti
The image I downloaded is  
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/debian-live-10.4.0-amd64-gnome.iso.torrent
I don't know which image you want me to try, but you could pass me the link.  
Thanks


Re: [Trisquel-users] Wifi Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 does not work on Debian 10

2020-07-05 Thread xliang9550
Try another Debian installation media, for example the 10.4 binary  
installation DVD image, or the weekly build of Debian Installer (testing).


If your AR9287 still works under Debian 9 (old stable), then there is nothing  
wrong with it. Like other ath5k/9k cards, it requires no firmware. Even if  
you want to load some firmware, it has no dedicated storagte to hold it and  
no dedicated processor to execute it.