[TruthTalk] Heating up

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Barr






\o/ !HALALUYah! 
\o/ 


Greetings in the Matchless 
Name of YahShua !!
 
Gematria is a kabalistic practice.  I 
am very well aware of it as one of the foremost opponents of it.  
Judy distances herself from truth more and more with each post she 
makes.
 
Judy continues with her consistent breaking 
of the 9th Commandment in a very inflammatory manner.
 
Speaking of inflammatory ... Scripture is 
very clear on this matter ...
 
"But the fearful, and 
unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, 
and idolaters, AND ALL LIARS, 
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:  
which is the second death." Revelation 21:8
 


Ahava b' 
YahShua




















(Love in The 
SAVIOUR)

Baruch YHVH,








 
Bro. 
Chris Barr
a servant 
of YHVH

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Judith H. 
  Taylor 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: 09/17/2003 12:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Tidbits
  
   "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  writes:
  



Do you know that with a 
NINE digit social 
slavery number PLUS your NINE digit zip 
code 
that the system can identify WHO each 
person
 is and WHERE each person 
is?  Oh, by the way, 
9 + 9 = 18 and also = 6 6 6.  
Coincidence?
 
Do you know that one place Social 
Security 
is regulated in the United States Code 
is 
Title 42, Section 666?  Coincidence?
~
NO - SUPERSTITION!!!
 
You are promoting Gematria Chris,
Are you aware that this is an occultic practice
and that fear is a demonic spirit which is fed 
by these kinds of speculative exercises in 
futility and time wasting.
 
Also are you aware that "God has not given 
us the spirit of fear but power, love and a
sound mind?"
 
Judy
 

 


RE: [TruthTalk] Dare you to read this II!

2003-09-17 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote:
> I'm no longer convinced that our spirit is immediately 
> purified and perfect when we receive Christ for several 
> reasons.

And those reasons are?

I'm certainly not arguing that EVERYONE who professes to be a Christian
has experienced this.  I speak from personal experience and my
understanding of how it has worked in my life.  I know of several Bible
passages that confirm this perspective, but first I would like to hear
your reasons for not believing that Jesus can purify our spirit
immediately when we believe upon him.

Judy wrote:
> I would probably say that the soul is renewed 
> and changed as we walk after the spirit daily 
> repenting and turning from our old ways.

This sounds to me like my old life when I lived under law.  When we walk
in the Spirit, it is not a life of daily repentance because the Spirit
leads us into all truth and righteousness.  When I lived under law,
however, then there were daily sins and daily repentance and the life of
condemnation described in Romans 7.

Judy wrote:
> Not exactly. I thought the man he describes in Romans 7
> was himself before Christ .. I had heard faith teachers
> say that Romans 7 was describing an unregenerate man
> but Paul wrote elsewhere that he had NOT already attained
> but that he pressed on. IMO these doctrines deny reality
> and are dangerous.

The dynamics described in Romans 7 can be walked out by a regenerated
man as well as an unregenerated man.  It all has to do with whether the
person walks under law or under grace.  A regenerated person can walk
under law just as easily, or perhaps even more easily, than an
unregenerated person.

When Paul said he had "NOT already attained" he was talking about the
resurrection of the body.  I have not attained the resurrection of the
body either.  However, Paul had attained moral perfection, for he says
just a few verses after that statement of not attaining, "let us as many
as be perfect be thus minded." 

Phi 3:11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the
dead. 
Phi 3:12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already
perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also
I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. 
Phi 3:13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one
thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth
unto those things which are before, 
Phi 3:14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of
God in Christ Jesus. 
Phi 3:15  Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and
if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto
you.

Holiness is continually perfected as we walk in the Spirit, but this
does not mean that we will continue to sin until our bodies are
resurrected.  To stop sinning is the beginning of walking in the Spirit.
This is when a person is able to grow in the grace of Christ and mature
into the godly person God desires.  Sin completely thwarts the process.

Judy wrote:
> What about those who claim to be in Christ Jesus 
> who walk after the flesh? Do you believe there 
> is condemnation for them?

Yes, of course there is condemnation for them.  Those who are in the
flesh cannot please God.

Judy wrote:
> ... walking after the Spirit is learned behavior 
> and being judged by God's Law is what puts us on 
> our knees and causes us to return to Christ with 
> our whole heart, rather than go on with a heart 
> divided.

Walking in the Spirit is NOT learned behavior at all.  This is what
separates it from being under law.  Being under law is learned behavior,
but walking in the Spirit is a manifestation of God's grace and it
happens instantly and immediately and completely.  It is as miraculous
as a crippled man being healed and walking.  The crippled man does not
learn to walk again.  He immediately leaps and jumps. 

Judy wrote:
> I am not observing a whole lot of freedom in the body
> of Christ today.  There are just as many curses and
> just as much sickness hanging on believers as there is out
> there in the world and this is why I see these 'faith'
> doctrines as dangerous.  They teach a false sense of
> security.

There is a lot of phony stuff out there to be sure.  Christians in
general do not show a statistical difference in regard to divorce rates,
sin, sickness, death, etc.  This is because not all who claim to be
Christians really are.  If we were able to identify the true believers
and examine such statistics, I think you would find much better than
average stats concerning sin, divorce, sickness, etc.  

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

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Re: [TruthTalk] Heating up

2003-09-17 Thread Judith H. Taylor
"Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gematria is a kabalistic practice.  I am very well aware 
of it as one of the foremost opponents of it.  

**Then why do you use this or some similar system to
interpret end time prophecy, the US Government and 
the book of Revelation?

Judy distances herself from truth more and more 
with each post she makes. Judy continues with her 
consistent breaking of the 9th Commandment in a 
very inflammatory manner.

**Dismissing the 'accuser of the brethren' and addressing
Chris (the professing believer who walks in love)... 

Judy asks
"Why are you so angry Chris and how can you be so sure 
that everyone else believes lies and only you know the 
truth?" Have you been angry like this for the past 30yrs? 
Why would you take your son to the infidels for their 
opinion about his well being? You could have stayed at 
home and continued to trust the Lord. If the nurse you 
dealt with at this hospital was not a believer I am positive 
that your abrupt and accusing presence would have 
aroused no curiosity in her at all toward the God you 
serve. 

Chris:
Speaking of inflammatory ... Scripture is very clear on 
this matter ... "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the 
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and 
sorcerers, and idolaters, AND ALL LIARS, shall have their 
part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:  
which is the second death." Revelation 21:8

**Chris have you ever heard the word "deceived" and do
you know it's definition?  Those who don't know God and
even some who do are deceived in certain areas. Nobody
but Jesus has ALL truth and unless you are Him then you also
have areas needing light.  We need each other because
noone has the whole loaf and deceived ppl are unaware that 
they are deceived.  We we are to by faith separate the person 
from the sin that afflicts them and love them. This is how 
we overcome evil with good... and Chris, I am being honest
with you in love here.  You come on like a Sherman tank. 
Please read 1 Cor 13 before you write to the list.

Grace and Peace,
Judy



- Original Message - 
From: Judith H. Taylor 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09/17/2003 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Tidbits


"Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Do you know that with a NINE digit social 
slavery number PLUS your NINE digit zip code 
that the system can identify WHO each person
is and WHERE each person is?  Oh, by the way, 
9 + 9 = 18 and also = 6 6 6.  Coincidence?

Do you know that one place Social Security 
is regulated in the United States Code is 
Title 42, Section 666?  Coincidence?
~
NO - SUPERSTITION!!!

You are promoting Gematria Chris,
Are you aware that this is an occultic practice
and that fear is a demonic spirit which is fed 
by these kinds of speculative exercises in 
futility and time wasting.

Also are you aware that "God has not given 
us the spirit of fear but power, love and a
sound mind?"

Judy
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you 
ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

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[TruthTalk] Obeying The Word with True LOVE

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Barr







\o/ !HALALUYah! 
\o/ 


Greetings in the Matchless 
Name of YahShua !!
 
"But ye, beloved, 
building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in The Holy Spirit, Keep 
yourselves in the love of The Almighty, looking for the mercy of our Adonay 
YahShua Messiah unto 
eternal life.
And of some have 
compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the 
fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." Jude 20-23
 


Ahava b' 
YahShua




















(Love in The 
SAVIOUR)

Baruch YHVH,








 
Bro. 
Chris Barr
a servant 
of YHVH


Re: [TruthTalk] Dare you to read this II!

2003-09-17 Thread Judith H. Taylor

"David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Judy wrote:
I'm no longer convinced that our spirit is immediately 
 purified and perfect when we receive Christ for several 
 reasons.
 
 And those reasons are?

Judy:
Mainly generational sin and iniquities inherited from the fathers.
I believe spirits come down generationally and that babies are
born with them (including myself).  The world calls it genetic. 
Fear is a spirit, it is not a condition of the soul and the Church 
is full of it. During the Y2K crisis it was the Christians who were 
storing up supplies and heading for the hills over something that
proved to be nothing. Whole ministries were built on selling 
survival stuff. Where were faith and love? 

David:
I'm certainly not arguing that EVERYONE who professes to be a 
 Christian has experienced this. I speak from personal experience 
and my understanding of how it has worked in my life.  I know 
of several Bible passages that confirm this perspective, but first 
I would like to hear your reasons for not believing that Jesus 
can purify our spirit immediately when we believe upon him.

Judy:
I believe that when we are born again or born of the Spirit
that the Holy Spirit comes to indwell us and lead us into all
truth making us part of the New Creation in Christ  
(2 Cor 5:5) which is the Church (corporate).  We know by
Heb 4:12 that the spirit and soul can be divided because
God's Word divides them and if the Spirit needed no
sanctification then 1 Thess 5:23 would not include it ie:
"May the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely;
and may your SPIRIT and soul and body be preserved
complete without blame at the coming of our Lord 
Jesus Christ.  Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will
bring it to pass."

the soul changes as the mind is renewed helping us to
walk after the Spirit daily in repentance, turning from
our old ways and overcoming in the daily conflicts with
the enemy.

David:
This sounds to me like my old life when I lived under 
law.  When we walk in the Spirit, it is not a life of daily 
repentance because the Spirit leads us into all truth 
and righteousness.  When I lived under law, however, 
then there were daily sins and daily repentance and the 
 life of condemnation described in Romans 7.

Judy:
Conviction and condemnation are not the same. When
we are convicted by the Holy Spirit about something it
is Good News because the Lord chastises those who are
His and gives us time and space to repent. Condemnation
is for those who have no hope.  I believe Paul describes
conviction in Romans 7 and his hope in Romans 8. You
and I both know that we are not without sin the moment
we become born again or even spirit filled.  Sin is an
entity that lives in us.  Mark 7:21 and Matt 15:19 tell us 
where sin is from. It is not a demon that sits on our shoulder
and talks with us ie "For from WITHIN, out of the heart of
men proced the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders
adulteries, deeds ov ocveting and wickedness, as well as
deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, price and foolishness. 
ALL these evil things proceed from within and defile 
the man"

The walk of salvation is a walk of sanctification. We
must learn to discern or recognize these traits within us,
take responsibility before the Lord by renouncing and
turning from them which is repentance and then we will
be able to rejoice and walk in newness of life and the 
blessings will overtake us.

David:
The dynamics described in Romans 7 can be walked 
out by a regenerated man as well as an unregenerated man.  
It all has to do with whether the person walks under law 
or under grace.  A regenerated person can walk under 
law just as easily, or perhaps even more easily, than an
unregenerated person.

Judy:
When we break the commandment the law judges us
whether or not we claim regeneration scripture teaches
that if we do not judge ourselves, we will be judged and
this is the purpose of God's law.  Realizing how impotent we
are in and of ourselves to keep it is what drives us to Christ.
 
David:
When Paul said he had "NOT already attained" he was 
talking about the resurrection of the body.  I have not 
attained the resurrection of the body either.  However, 
Paul had attained moral perfection, for he says just a few 
verses after that statement of not attaining, "let us as 
 many as be perfect be thus minded." 

  "If by any means I might attain unto the 
resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already 
attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, 
if that I may apprehend that for which also I am 
apprehended of Christ Jesus.  Brethren, I count not 
myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, 
forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching 
 forth unto those things which are before, I press toward 
the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ 
Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus 
minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, 
God shall reveal even this u

Re: [TruthTalk] Obeying The Word with True LOVE

2003-09-17 Thread Judith H. Taylor

 "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
"But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your 
most holy faith, praying in The Holy Spirit, Keep 
yourselves in the love of The Almighty, looking 
for the mercy of our Adonay YahShua Messiah unto 
eternal life. And of some have compassion, making 
a difference: And others save with fear, pulling 
them out of the fire; hating even the garment 
spotted by the flesh." Jude 20-23

Judy responds:
"Be ye DOERS of the Word and not hearers only 
deceiving your own selves"

"Judge yourself, lest ye be judged" and "Owe no man 
anything, except to love him for love fulfills the law; 
when you judge/accuse the brethren you will reap what
you sow because you judge the law rather than fulfilling it
in your own life by walking in love and God's righteous 
judgment says that "every man will be rewarded for 
what he has done"

God has sent the Spirit to convict the world of sin
righteousness and the judgment to come. So beating 
them over the head with the Bible is not being a co-
worker in His vineyard.  Jesus our example only did
what He first saw the Father doing.  You are not
waiting for the voice of the Shepherd because this
is not His Way... and this lack of love and caring
is why the Church is so divided.

Please pray before you respond Chris
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you 
ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

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[TruthTalk] Sanctification by the Spirit

2003-09-17 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote:
> Mainly generational sin and iniquities inherited 
> from the fathers.  I believe spirits come down 
> generationally and that babies are born with them 
> (including myself).  The world calls it genetic.

I agree with you, but why do you attribute this to the "spirit"?  I
commend you to connect genetics with this, because many Christians do
not, but as soon as you recognize that the mechanism by which this is
inherited is genetics, then you ought to see that the flesh, rather than
the spirit, is how these curses are inherited. 

Judy wrote:
> Fear is a spirit, it is not a condition of the 
> soul and the Church is full of it. 

Yes, there is a spirit of fear, but fear also is an emotion that can
emanate from the flesh.  If you recognize that a propensity toward fear
is something that can be inherited, do not think that this would be a
spirit of fear.  Now a spirit of fear might prey upon the propensity of
the flesh to fear, but the inherited part comes from the flesh and not
the spirit.

Judy wrote:
> During the Y2K crisis it was the Christians who were
> storing up supplies and heading for the hills over 
> something that proved to be nothing. Whole ministries 
> were built on selling survival stuff. Where were 
> faith and love?

Some Christians did this, but not all.  Being in the computer field, I
was always asked about this problem and I always encouraged people to
understand that there was nothing to fear.  I also spent my time
debating people concerning how they were wrong to predict the calamity
that they predicted.

Judy wrote:
> I believe that when we are born again or born 
> of the Spirit that the Holy Spirit comes to 
> indwell us and lead us into all truth making 
> us part of the New Creation in Christ (2 Cor 
> 5:5) which is the Church (corporate).  

How can the Holy Spirit indwell an unclean vessel?  This is why the
world cannot receive the Spirit.  Something must first happen to the
inner man.  It must be cleansed in order to receive the Holy Spirit of
God.

Judy wrote:
> We know by Heb 4:12 that the spirit and soul can 
> be divided because God's Word divides them and if 
> the Spirit needed no sanctification then 1 Thess 
> 5:23 would not include it ie: "May the God of peace 
> Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your SPIRIT 
> and soul and body be preserved complete without 
> blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.  
> Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will
> bring it to pass."

I never said that we did not need to be cleansed in spirit.  The way I
understand it is that our spirit is cleansed immediately when we believe
upon Christ for sanctification.  Not all "Christians" but rather those
who believe experience this.  Then the soul, which formerly was led
about by the flesh, begins to be led by the spirit.  The soul seems to
be a little slower at responding to the work of Christ, adapting the new
behavior as if taking on a new habit.  The flesh is completely unable to
follow the leading of the spirit, but complies when the spirit and soul
act in such a way that demands its compliance.  So I see the spirit
being saved immediately, the soul progressively being saved, and the
flesh will be the last to be saved (at the resurrection).  

Now if a person sins, he will defile his spirit and need to cleanse his
spirit again by the grace of Christ.  This is what it means to
experience guilt and conviction and to repent and seek forgiveness.  So
in this situation, a Christian purges filthiness of the spirit.  Once
the person's conscience is cleared again, he may walk in the Spirit and
continue in a walk of holiness and boldness toward the Lord.

The Hebrews 4:12 passage is a good one to show that this is the work of
the Word of God that cleanses us.  It separates soul and spirit and
exposes us before the Lord so that the spirit might be sanctified
immediately and the soul positioned to be progressively sanctified as it
beckons to the Spirit of Christ working through the human spirit rather
that beckoning to the appetites of the flesh.

Judy wrote:
> Conviction and condemnation are not the same. 
> When we are convicted by the Holy Spirit about 
> something it is Good News because the Lord 
> chastises those who are His and gives us time 
> and space to repent. Condemnation is for those 
> who have no hope.  I believe Paul describes
> conviction in Romans 7 and his hope in Romans 8.

I understand your distinction between conviction and condemnation, but
it seems quite obvious to me that Paul describes condemnation in Romans
7.  At the very start of the chapter, he introduces the concept of
needing to die to the law.  He introduces the concept of marriage, and
argues that in order to be married to Christ, we must become DEAD to the
law.  

Rom 7:4  Wherefore, my brethren, ye also ARE BECOME DEAD TO THE LAW by
the body of Christ; THAT YE SHOULD BE MARRIED TO ANOTHER, even to him
who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.


The whole cha

Re: [TruthTalk] Obeying The Word with True LOVE

2003-09-17 Thread Terry Clifton






 






", Keep yourselves in the love of The Almighty, 


Ahava b' YahShua




















(Love in The SAVIOUR)

Baruch YHVH,








 
Bro. Chris Barr
a servant of YHVH
 







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Re: [TruthTalk] Obeying The Word with True LOVE

2003-09-17 Thread Terry Clifton






Thanks Chris.  I never noticed that line before.  You've shown me something.
 
Terry 
-, Keep yourselves in the love of The Almighty,     




Ahava b' YahShua




















(Love in The SAVIOUR)

Baruch YHVH,








 
Bro. Chris Barr
a servant of YHVH
 







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RE: [TruthTalk] Tidbits

2003-09-17 Thread ShieldsFamily









Judy, 

 

I know that Numerology is occult.  Gematria can be
occult, such as in Kabalistic groups.  The word gematria can also be another
name used by some folks to mean “Bible mathematics”, which is
studying the meaning of numbers mentioned in the Bible, without any occultic
connections.  Obviously certain numbers have clear meaning, such as 40, 7,
or 666, etc.  I find THAT to be very interesting, as it is used by the
Lord to impart understanding. 

 

For example (from God the Master Mathematician by Dr. Noah
Hutchings) the Number 6 is the number for Man:

In the year 2000, the earth’s population reaching 6
Billion

Man was created on the 6th day.

Rev 13:18 says 666 “is the number of a man”

The Bible has 66 books, and was written for man.

Genesis chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
times

Galatians chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
times

Chronicles chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
times

The Lord says that man is to work 6 days/week

 

Etc, etc., the symbolism continues on and on…

 

Izzy,

 

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judith H. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 17,
2003 12:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Tidbits

 



 "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:













Do you know that with a NINE digit social 











slavery number PLUS your NINE digit zip code 





that the system can identify WHO each person





 is and WHERE each person is?  Oh, by the
way, 





9 + 9 = 18 and also = 6 6 6.  Coincidence?





 





Do you know that one place Social Security 





is regulated in the United States Code is 





Title 42, Section 666?  Coincidence?





~





NO - SUPERSTITION!!!





 





You are promoting Gematria Chris,





Are you aware that this is an occultic practice





and that fear is a demonic spirit which is fed 





by these kinds of speculative exercises in 





futility and time wasting.





 





Also are you aware that "God has not given 





us the spirit of fear but power, love and a





sound mind?"





 





Judy





 







 














RE: [TruthTalk] Tidbits

2003-09-17 Thread Terry Clifton






Ahem,6 and 66 and 666, and six billion are all different numbers; or am I nit picking?
 
Terry 
---Original Message---
 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 17:15:33
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Tidbits
 

Judy, 
 
I know that Numerology is occult.  Gematria can be occult, such as in Kabalistic groups.  The word gematria can also be another name used by some folks to mean “Bible mathematics”, which is studying the meaning of numbers mentioned in the Bible, without any occultic connections.  Obviously certain numbers have clear meaning, such as 40, 7, or 666, etc.  I find THAT to be very interesting, as it is used by the Lord to impart understanding. 
 
For example (from God the Master Mathematician by Dr. Noah Hutchings) the Number 6 is the number for Man:
In the year 2000, the earth’s population reaching 6 Billion
Man was created on the 6th day.
Rev 13:18 says 666 “is the number of a man”
The Bible has 66 books, and was written for man.
Genesis chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6 times
Galatians chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6 times
Chronicles chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6 times
The Lord says that man is to work 6 days/week
 
Etc, etc., the symbolism continues on and on…
 
Izzy,
 
 
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judith H. TaylorSent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:00 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Tidbits
 

 "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:





Do you know that with a NINE digit social 

slavery number PLUS your NINE digit zip code 

that the system can identify WHO each person

 is and WHERE each person is?  Oh, by the way, 

9 + 9 = 18 and also = 6 6 6.  Coincidence?

 

Do you know that one place Social Security 

is regulated in the United States Code is 

Title 42, Section 666?  Coincidence?

~

NO - SUPERSTITION!!!

 

You are promoting Gematria Chris,

Are you aware that this is an occultic practice

and that fear is a demonic spirit which is fed 

by these kinds of speculative exercises in 

futility and time wasting.

 

Also are you aware that "God has not given 

us the spirit of fear but power, love and a

sound mind?"

 

Judy

 


 
 







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RE: [TruthTalk] Tidbits

2003-09-17 Thread ShieldsFamily








Yes, you are nitpicking.  Repeating a number only emphasizes
it’s importance. Iz

 

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2003 6:22 PM
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  Ahem,6 and 66 and 666, and six billion are
  all different numbers; or am I nit picking?
  
  
   
  
  
  Terry
   
  
  
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  Date: Wednesday,
  September 17, 2003 17:15:33
  
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
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  Judy, 
   
  I know that Numerology is occult.  Gematria can be
  occult, such as in Kabalistic groups.  The word gematria can also be
  another name used by some folks to mean “Bible mathematics”,
  which is studying the meaning of numbers mentioned in the Bible, without any
  occultic connections.  Obviously certain numbers have clear meaning, such
  as 40, 7, or 666, etc.  I find THAT to be very interesting, as it is
  used by the Lord to impart understanding. 
   
  For example (from God the Master Mathematician by Dr. Noah
  Hutchings) the Number 6 is the number for Man:
  In the year 2000, the earth’s population reaching 6
  Billion
  Man was created on the 6th day.
  Rev 13:18 says 666 “is the number of a man”
  The Bible has 66 books, and was written for man.
  Genesis chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
  times
  Galatians chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
  times
  Chronicles chapter 6 mentions the word “man” 6
  times
  The Lord says that man is to work 6 days/week
   
  Etc, etc., the symbolism continues on and on…
   
  Izzy,
   
   
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   "Chris Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  writes:
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Do you know that with a NINE digit social 
  
  
  
  
  
  slavery number PLUS your NINE digit zip
  code 
  
  
  that the system can identify WHO each
  person
  
  
   is and WHERE each person is? 
  Oh, by the way, 
  
  
  9 + 9 = 18 and also = 6 6 6. 
  Coincidence?
  
  
   
  
  
  Do you know that one place Social Security 
  
  
  is regulated in the United States Code is 
  
  
  Title 42, Section 666?  Coincidence?
  
  
  ~
  
  
  NO - SUPERSTITION!!!
  
  
   
  
  
  You are promoting Gematria Chris,
  
  
  Are you aware that this is an occultic
  practice
  
  
  and that fear is a demonic spirit which is
  fed 
  
  
  by these kinds of speculative exercises in 
  
  
  futility and time wasting.
  
  
   
  
  
  Also are you aware that "God has not
  given 
  
  
  us the spirit of fear but power, love and a
  
  
  sound mind?"
  
  
   
  
  
  Judy
  
  
   
  
  
  
   
  
  
  
  
  
   
  
  
 
 
  
  
   

 


 


 

   
  
  
  
 



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[TruthTalk] Eglnsih

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Barr



Ientretsnig suftf Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an 
Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, 
the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit 
pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. 
Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe. 



[TruthTalk] Wickedness waxing more and more

2003-09-17 Thread Chris Barr





\o/ !HALALUYah! 
\o/ 


Greetings in the Matchless 
Name of YahShua !!
 
OK, this woman collapsed mysteriously in 1990.Her husband sued 
doctors and won $1.3 million for her care.Husband never spent a nickel 
on any rehabilitative therapy -- only sustenance care.5 years ago he 
began trying to have her feeding tube removed and won't allow her to be hand 
fed. She breathes on her own.Oh, by the way, that is when hubby started 
shacking up with another whom he subsequently had a child by.Then it is 
discovered that a bone scan done in 1991 revealed numerous trauma spots as 
though she had been severly beaten in the past.Oh, by the way, the 
lawyer the husband has hired is a "right to die" expert ... and he has been paid 
with part of the $1.3 million originally awarded for the woman's 
care.Oh, and if the woman is allowed to starve to death (as the court 
has been ordering but the parents have been fighting) then hubby gets the rest 
of the money for himself.www.baynews9.com/site/New...ryid=24706www.terrisfight.org/lead.htm


Ahava b' 
YahShua




















(Love in The 
SAVIOUR)

Baruch YHVH,








 
Bro. 
Chris Barr
a servant 
of YHVH


RE: [TruthTalk] Wickedness waxing more and more

2003-09-17 Thread ShieldsFamily









OK. This brings up an interesting subject:
Is there a right to die?  Personally, I don’t want anybody forcing
my body to live in a vegetative state by artificial means if I’m already
departed.  I think it is the cruelest thing to do.  It is obviously
wrong to KILL someone artificially via drug injection.  It is just as bad
to artificially FORCE someone’s body to stay alive via feeding tube. 
Give the person a decent interval to recover, but 13 years???

 

When your body stops eating, it is saying “Time
for me to go.”  It is sickening to see all the 90+ year old gomers
in the nursing homes living day after day connected to a feeding tube; like so
many wrinkled up old fetuses attached to umbilical cords. The person does not
suffer if you allow nature to take its course and die.  I don’t
blame her husband for not wanting to be married to a corpse longer than 13
years.  Our society has the perverted idea that we must keep the dead
alive and murder the unborn.  She’s already GONE; so get over it. 

 

 Izzy

 

 

 

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\o/ !HALALUYah! \o/










Greetings in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!





 





OK, this woman collapsed mysteriously in 1990.

Her husband sued doctors and won $1.3 million for her care.

Husband never spent a nickel on any rehabilitative therapy -- only sustenance
care.

5 years ago he began trying to have her feeding tube removed and won't allow
her to be hand fed. She breathes on her own.

Oh, by the way, that is when hubby started shacking up with another whom he subsequently
had a child by.

Then it is discovered that a bone scan done in 1991 revealed numerous trauma
spots as though she had been severly beaten in the past.

Oh, by the way, the lawyer the husband has hired is a "right to die"
expert ... and he has been paid with part of the $1.3 million originally
awarded for the woman's care.

Oh, and if the woman is allowed to starve to death (as the court has been
ordering but the parents have been fighting) then hubby gets the rest of the
money for himself.

www.baynews9.com/site/New...ryid=24706

www.terrisfight.org/lead.htm











Ahava b' YahShua













































(Love in The
SAVIOUR)











Baruch YHVH,





















 







Bro. Chris Barr





a servant of YHVH