[TruthTalk] Esau spirit?

2003-12-06 Thread jandgtaylor1



Dean:
If you are still around, I am also interested in how this Esau spirit works 
re DaveH.

I know God said "Jacob I loved, Esau I hated" because Jacob sought after 
the blessing
and Esau was disinterested enough to sell it for a mess of pottage... so 
Jacob valued the
spiritual andEsau is a picture of a man walking after the 
flesh. I once heard someone 
use this acronym for Esau - Every Sensual Appetite Unleashed -and we 
can certainly
learn what not to do by his examplebut I fail tosee how this 
connects to Mormonism.

I see Mormonismmore along the lines of the Canaanite nations. Would 
you be
willing toexplain more please?

Judy




[TruthTalk] Esau spirit?

2003-12-05 Thread ShieldsFamily








Dean,
You'd better be careful. I got reprimanded several years on TT ago for
telling a certain mormon that he needs to stop his pretences and just get on
his knees and repent and get saved. So I just dont interact with them
anymore, as I dont have the freedom to cut to the bottom line and speak
the facts. I dont like being jerked around by ever twisting,
supposedly cunning questions that, on the spiritual level are just intended to
confuse and drag the gullible lost into the pit. You cant convince
anyone of truth if they have no desire to know truth; and conversely you cant
learn any truth from them. I just like to discuss issues with truly truth-hungry
people because I learn more from them than anyone else on TT.



What
do you see as the similarity between DaveH and Esau? While my flesh finds DaveH
to be a sweet, harmless guy, my spirit says there is serious darkness in Mormonism. (Dave, please tune outIm not talking about YOU in
particular; just ALL mormon folk in general!) I see the underlying mormon
spirit as being very deceptive and manipulative. On the surface they appear to
be sincere and kindly. And I think they really intend to be that. Well meaning
people take them seriously and discuss issues to the point of ridiculousness,
but to me its as plain as the nose on their faceits a
deceptive ploy (perhaps they arent really even aware of themselves; just
the spirit within them) when they say they really want to know what Christians
believe. If they really wanted to know, theyd sure have learned it by
now. Am I off base, or what? Izzy



PS
Dean, are you also Carroll? 





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Dean Moore wrote:




 -I do believe that all false beliefs should be shown


 as foolishness.




DAVEH: Well Dean...You've certainly done that!



*
No just started-it just takes longer with some then it does others but

the
end results will be the same-because the battle isn't mine but the

Lords.




 When you say you will do it in


  honor of DaveH, are you saying this in irony, as if you really mean
to


  hurt Dave?





 * Bro.David-I see DaveH as being led by the Mormon spirit and
realize


 that I am battling a spirit not a man. I believe that DaveH is a worker

of


 iniquity of the first order




DAVEH: I'm sorry you feel that way, Dean. :-( 



*Still
worried about my health I see and now my soul-which is in the hands

of
Jesus Christ-should you really be so concerned as I am putting my trust

in
Him and not the teachings of Joseph Smith? You should study the final

state
of Esau-another worker of Iniquity-same spirit -differant body.












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