[TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
"I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 14, 2005 17:11 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those whowalk after the Spiritunderstand God's Word. 3. This accusation is uncalled for Lance because what I addressed was personal accusations and this is what you are doing right here. Obviously you didn't understand what I was addressing ... Oh well! What's new On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:11 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JUDY:Am I being unclear? (I often am). Let me take another run at it. On those occasions in which you indicate that you've CORRECTLY APPREHENDED THE MEANING OF GOD'S WORD(s) on given issue, do you not implicitly or explictly indicate that the one(s) with whom you are speaking do not? Would you have genuine difficulty if recalling many such instances over the last 6 months? What then, am I attempting to say? YOU DO THAT WHICH WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES YOU. Thus, on occasion(s) THAT WHICH YOU DO WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES SOME ON TT IN EXACTLY THE SAME FASHION. Do you understand? Do you agree with this assessment? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 14, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard No Lance, I wouldn't acknowledge this to be the case because everything that is spoken on TT is not the Word of God, and noteverything I write is the Word of Godbecause that would have to include opinion at times along with personal stories. So what is the point you are trying to make here? Is it good to be calling one another hypocrites and disrespecting the Moderator? Where do you think this kind ofattitudeleads?? On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:00:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you describe that which you say as THE TRUTH OF THE WORD OF GOD Judy, while that spoken by another as OTHER THAN the truth of the word of god, Judy then, you are doing the very thing that you speak of as 'both
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him. Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself. As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance. On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those whowalk after the Spiritunderstand God's Word. 3. This accusation is uncalled for Lance because what I addressed was personal accusations and this is what you are doing right here. Obviously you didn't understand what I was addressing ... Oh well! What's new On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:11 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JUDY:Am I being unclear? (I often am). Let me take another run at it. On those occasions in which you indicate that you've CORRECTLY APPREHENDED THE MEANING OF GOD'S WORD(s) on given issue, do you not implicitly or explictly indicate that the one(s) with whom you are speaking do not? Would you have genuine difficulty if recalling many such instances over the last 6 months? What then, am I attempting to say? YOU DO THAT WHICH WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES YOU. Thus, on occasion(s) THAT WHICH YOU DO WEARIES AND DISCOURAGES SOME ON TT IN EXACTLY THE SAME FASHION. Do you understand?
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.." You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him. Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself. As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance. On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those whowalk after the Spiritunderstand God's Word. 3. This accusation is uncalled for Lance because what I addressed was personal accusations and this is what you are doing right here. Obviously you didn't understand what I was addressing ... Oh well! What's new On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:11 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JUDY:Am I being unclear? (I often am). Let me t
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
Is it safe to assume then, Judy, that 'YOU are reading MY Words with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words; interject different meanings, and keep confusion going'? Also, if you read my words in this fashion then, what of the words of John, Bill, 'G' etc.? Perhaps we should not be upset when you charge either us or 'living/dead theologians' as the problem is indeed yours. - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.." I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.." You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him. Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself. As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance. On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it sp
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
Probably so, no need to repeat myself; anyone who loves truth by nature hates error. I can accept that these men may have been well meaning and may have even done good things. But why camp around their error? I understand that you will not agree since you don't believe that anyone can know the truth because of the Reformation and all that. My question then is how certain of thesetheologians have escaped the taint in your view and only the least of the brethren are stuck with it?. The ones Paul said should judge disputes in the church On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:37:37 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. From: Judy Taylor You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him. Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself. As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance. On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those whowalk after the Spiritunderstand God's Word.
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
Your words are for the most part personal opinions Lance and Garys are indecipherable so I leave those to others who may be better equipped - some of you seem to get a kick out of them but I'm not interested in Dylan or the speculations of his fans.. Have you said something profound from God's Wordthat I missed Lance? On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:49:31 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it safe to assume then, Judy, that 'YOU are reading MY Words with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words; interject different meanings, and keep confusion going'? Also, if you read my words in this fashion then, what of the words of John, Bill, 'G' etc.? Perhaps we should not be upset when you charge either us or 'living/dead theologians' as the problem is indeed yours. From: Lance Muir I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions. From: Judy Taylor You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him. Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself. As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance. On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word. When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy) May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word? From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIE On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
Perhaps you should just post what you mean and mean what you post?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it safe to assume then, Judy, that 'YOU are reading MY Words with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words; interject different meanings, and keep confusion going'? Also, if you read my words in this fashion then, what of the words of John, Bill, 'G' etc.? Perhaps we should not be upset when you charge either us or 'living/dead theologians' as the problem is indeed yours.- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.."I take your correction to heart, Judy. As to the aforemention persons, let's just say that you've offered a much milder treatmen below than on other occasions.- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 15, 2005 06:20 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally.."You are doing with my words what your mentors do with God's Word Lance - which is interjecting your own reasonings. As for Calvin and Barth. Barth had his own issues with God's Word which I prefer to let lie with him - Calvin however is in my face at church and heis something else. Here is a man who apparently taught and his disciples today(whoappear intelligent in every other way) - teach and lead othersto pass on the image of a Heavenly Father- the one Jesus loved and communed with daily - who in His Sovereignty decrees a thing and then punishes His Creation for doingwhat He decrees. Along the same lines he decrees some saved and some lost so the responsibility there is all on Him.Since Jesus warned everyone (including you and I) to take heed how we hear. I am amazed that thiscanbe happening in our day. In some circless there are moreppl paying heed to these men's words than the Words of Jesus Himself.As for what I said to you Lance - you have even put your own spin on that. I never said anything about your teaching. Go back and read it again (I wonder if you do all of your reading this way). I said you were reading MY WORDS with the help of the powers of darkness who are the ones who scramble words, interject different meanings,and keep confusion going. I said nothing at all about your teaching or who does or does not help you. So let's at least deal with the truth of the matter Lance.On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:32:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:"I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the CLEAR TEACHING OF GOD'S WORD' (implicit within this: AS I SEE IT/God has granted Me (Judy Taylor) the 'spiritual discernment' to see what such as Calvin Barth could not see) IMO, what is further implicit in what you've said both here and previously, Judy:To reject a person's public teaching is not the same as 'denigrating them personally' so, I do separate teaching/doing/ the Word.When I say of Lance 'YOU ARE TEACHING WITH THE HELP OF THE POWERS OF DARKNESS, LANCE', I refer, of course, only to Lance's teaching; not to his person. (Is this the case, Judy)May I then feel free to similarly adjudicate with respect to your own teaching/person? MR MODERATER(S): May I employ Judy's _expression_ when speaking of her word for word?From: Judy Taylor I don't know these men and I said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally. I don't have to accept their public teachings when they are not in line with the clear teaching of God's Word. To say that I personally denigrate these men is a LIEOn Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:00:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al?From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an unfounded and evil accusation. On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:40:39 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:No accusation here, Judy. This is a simple statement of objective truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I figure those whowalk after the Spiritunderstand God's Word. 3. This accusation is uncalled for Lance because what I addressed was personal accusations and this is what you are doing right here. Obviously you didn't understand what I was addressing ... Oh well! What's newOn Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:32:11 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
your straw man, clearly straw On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why camp around their error?
Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'I don't know these men and I have said nothing, repeat nothing, about them personally..
myth (noProtestant here'sthat stupid--you are really arrogant, M'am! E.g., like JC himself, acc to their writing, Protestants Calvin Lutherthemselves dismisstheir readersfrom everything contrary tofaith in God's word, in their case,inc their own folly;unlike their historic detractors, Protestants 'camp' around historic biblical theology whereever,likecontinually filtering the wheat of JCfrom thechaff/s of (even American) history) || On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:57:31 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But why camp around their error?
