Re: RE: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-04 Thread ljskats1946
Be careful Terry  :)  You better just speak for yourself on that one.  Kat

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> Include me out! :-) izzy
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> -Original Message-
> 
> Terry wrote:  Hope you aren't too critical of dysfunctional people because
> everyone on this group fits that description. 
> 
> 
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> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know 
> how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org
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RE: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Include me out! :-) izzy

-Original Message-

Terry wrote:  Hope you aren't too critical of dysfunctional people because
everyone on this group fits that description. 


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RE: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-04 Thread ShieldsFamily
Thanks, Kat! Also: Ephesians 4:29
"Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is
good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will
give grace to those who hear." Izzy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LBetz
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:43 PM
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

According to www.dictionary.com, the adverb "bloody" is given the following 
definition:
  1.. Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: "Everyone wants to have a

convict in his bloody family tree" (Robert Hughes).
  2..
  adv.
  Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: bloody well right.
Also, the word profanity is given 2 definitions
pro.fan.i.ty( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pr-fn-t, pr-)
n. pl. pro.fan.i.ties
  1.. The condition or quality of being profane.
  2..
1.. Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language.
2.. The use of such language
n : vulgar or irreverent speech or action

The following link gives us some insight into the origin of the slang word 
"bloody":  http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbloody.html  Interesting 
anyway!

The Word says "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have

passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)

"The inward man is being renewed day by day." (2 Corinthians 4:16)

"As the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct,

the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be 
renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which 
was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." 
(Ephesians 4:21-24)

Kat
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From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] opinions invited


>
> Now that we have all taken a breather, how 'bout we all come together in 
> an effort to educate the ignorant rednecks in this group, namely, me.
> I would like some facts, or lacking facts, some opinions, as to what 
> constitutes profanity.  How is it measured?  Is profanity the same as 
> cursing?  Why is it offensive to some and not to others?  When do I have 
> the right to be offended by another's language?  When is God offended by 
> language?  Why is "Bloody"  offensive in England and not in the USA? 
> Anyone?
> Terry
> --
> "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may 
> know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) 
> http://www.InnGlory.org
>
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Re: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-04 Thread Terry Clifton

Welcome, L. Betz.
I appreciate your response, but you left me hanging.  Tell us about 
you.  Am I conversing with a man or a woman?  New here, or have you been 
lurking?  It was a pleasant surprise to hear from a new voice.  Hope you 
aren't too critical of dysfunctional people because everyone on this 
group fits that description.


Back to the subject of profane and cursing.  After reading these dry 
definitions, what have you personally concluded?  Is all profanity 
cursing?  Is all cursing profane?  How about minced oaths? 

My own thoughts are not nailed down in this area with a couple of 
exceptions.  Those being that: 1.Christians should not use any language 
that would offend a brother or sister in Christ.
2. You have to expect lost people to behave and speak as lost people.   
( It would be really stupid to go into a cell block housing the dregs of 
society and be offended by the language used there.)

3.  Profanity is a strong way of displaying a weak mind.

Having offered these gems, let me point out that my opinion and a dollar 
will get you a cup of coffee at a cheap restaurant.  In other words, my 
opinion is unimportant.  I want to know what God thinks in this area.  
This is especially important as I try to disciple another man who seems 
to me to be way too casual with the use of profanity for a self 
described Christian.

Terry



LBetz wrote:

According to www.dictionary.com, the adverb "bloody" is given the 
following definition:
 1.. Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: "Everyone wants to 
have a convict in his bloody family tree" (Robert Hughes).

 2..
 adv.
 Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: bloody well right.
Also, the word profanity is given 2 definitions
pro·fan·i·ty( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pr-fn-t, pr-)
n. pl. pro·fan·i·ties
 1.. The condition or quality of being profane.
 2..
   1.. Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language.
   2.. The use of such language
n : vulgar or irreverent speech or action

The following link gives us some insight into the origin of the slang 
word "bloody":  http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbloody.html  
Interesting anyway!


The Word says "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old 
things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 
Corinthians 5:17)


"The inward man is being renewed day by day." (2 Corinthians 4:16)

"As the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former 
conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful 
lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on 
the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness 
and holiness." (Ephesians 4:21-24)


Kat
- Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] opinions invited




Now that we have all taken a breather, how 'bout we all come together 
in an effort to educate the ignorant rednecks in this group, namely, me.
I would like some facts, or lacking facts, some opinions, as to what 
constitutes profanity.  How is it measured?  Is profanity the same as 
cursing?  Why is it offensive to some and not to others?  When do I 
have the right to be offended by another's language?  When is God 
offended by language?  Why is "Bloody"  offensive in England and not 
in the USA? Anyone?

Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you 
may know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) 
http://www.InnGlory.org


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Re: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-03 Thread knpraise

pretty decent post.  
 
JD  -Original Message-From: LBetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 23:42:35 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] opinions invited


According to www.dictionary.com, the adverb "bloody" is given the following definition:  1.. Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: "Everyone wants to have a convict in his bloody family tree" (Robert Hughes).  2..  adv.  Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: bloody well right. Also, the word profanity is given 2 definitions pro·fan·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pr-fn-t, pr-) n. pl. pro·fan·i·ties  1.. The condition or quality of being profane.  2..   1.. Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language.   2.. The use of such language n : vulgar or irreverent speech or action  The following link gives us some insight into the origin of the slang word "bloody": http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbloody.html Interesting anyway!  The Word says "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)  "The inward man is being renewed day by day." (2 Corinthians 4:16)  "As the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." (Ephesians 4:21-24)  Kat - Original Message - From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:15 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] opinions invited  > > Now that we have all taken a breather, how 'bout we all come together in > an effort to educate the ignorant rednecks in this group, namely, me. > I would like some facts, or lacking facts, some opinions, as to what > constitutes profanity. How is it measured? Is profanity the same as > cursing? Why is it offensive to some and not to others? When do I have > the right to be offended by another's language? When is God offended by > language? Why is "Bloody" offensive in England and not in the USA? > Anyone? > Terry > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may > know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. 


Re: [TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-03 Thread LBetz
According to www.dictionary.com, the adverb "bloody" is given the following 
definition:
 1.. Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: "Everyone wants to have a 
convict in his bloody family tree" (Robert Hughes).

 2..
 adv.
 Chiefly British Slang. Used as an intensive: bloody well right.
Also, the word profanity is given 2 definitions
pro·fan·i·ty( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pr-fn-t, pr-)
n. pl. pro·fan·i·ties
 1.. The condition or quality of being profane.
 2..
   1.. Abusive, vulgar, or irreverent language.
   2.. The use of such language
n : vulgar or irreverent speech or action

The following link gives us some insight into the origin of the slang word 
"bloody":  http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbloody.html  Interesting 
anyway!


The Word says "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have 
passed away; behold, all things have become new." (2 Corinthians 5:17)


"The inward man is being renewed day by day." (2 Corinthians 4:16)

"As the truth is in Jesus: that you put off, concerning your former conduct, 
the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, and be 
renewed in the spirit of your mind, and that you put on the new man which 
was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness." 
(Ephesians 4:21-24)


Kat
- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] opinions invited




Now that we have all taken a breather, how 'bout we all come together in 
an effort to educate the ignorant rednecks in this group, namely, me.
I would like some facts, or lacking facts, some opinions, as to what 
constitutes profanity.  How is it measured?  Is profanity the same as 
cursing?  Why is it offensive to some and not to others?  When do I have 
the right to be offended by another's language?  When is God offended by 
language?  Why is "Bloody"  offensive in England and not in the USA? 
Anyone?

Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may 
know how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) 
http://www.InnGlory.org


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[TruthTalk] opinions invited

2005-08-03 Thread Terry Clifton


Now that we have all taken a breather, how 'bout we all come together in 
an effort to educate the ignorant rednecks in this group, namely, me.
I would like some facts, or lacking facts, some opinions, as to what 
constitutes profanity.  How is it measured?  Is profanity the same as 
cursing?  Why is it offensive to some and not to others?  When do I have 
the right to be offended by another's language?  When is God offended by 
language?  Why is "Bloody"  offensive in England and not in the USA?  
Anyone?

Terry
--
"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you 
ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org

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