Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children...
Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): "one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts," relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message-[g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
RE: [TruthTalk] the Little Children...
I think that the more sophisticated we become, the more likely we are to miss the pointwhich was the moral of the story. J Izzy Tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free an old Shaker hymn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts, relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- [g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
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this sounds objective reflective enuf for (true) 'tt', Izzy; i appreciate it l, g On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:52:52 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the more sophisticated we become, the more likely we are to miss the pointwhich was the moral of the story. J Izzy Tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free an old Shaker hymn. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): "one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts," relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message-[g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children...
1CO 14:20 Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... I think that the more sophisticated we become, the more likely we are to miss the pointwhich was the moral of the story. J Izzy Tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free an old Shaker hymn. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): "one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts," relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message-[g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children...
1CO 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... I think that the more sophisticated we become, the more likely we are to miss the pointwhich was the moral of the story. J Izzy Tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free an old Shaker hymn. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): "one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts," relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message-[g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
RE: [TruthTalk] the Little Children...
Marlin, When we reach the age of accountability, we are to make a mature decision to take on our own faith in Jesus Christ; no longer relying upon whatever we have been taught by others. However, when it comes to matters of sin, we are to be as innocent as children. When it comes to faith, we are to be as trusting and believing as little children. Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Mark 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein. [Matt 11:25-27: Luke 10:21, 22] At that time Jesus said, I praise You, [Luke 22:42; 23:34; John 11:41; 12:27, 28] Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that [Ps 8:2; 1 Cor 1:26ff] You have hidden these things from the wise and intelligent and have revealed them to infants. Some of the dearest Believers I have known have been children, or retarded. God has not made loving Jesus with a pure heart too difficult. My experience with the Catholic church has shown me that when you cant believe the plain and simple truths of the Bible, you should make everything as complex and complicated as possible to cloud the issues. I dislike anything that covers up, with words, rituals, or requirements, the simplicity of His Word. (This sometimes gets me into trouble on TTespecially when it comes to the fourth Commandment!)Even children can understand itPTL! That is my only hope. J 1 O LORD, my heart is not (1) proud, nor my eyes (2) haughty; Nor do I involve myself in (3) great matters, Or in things (4) too difficult for me. 2 Surely I have (5) composed and quieted my soul; Like a weaned (6) child rests against his mother, My soul is like a weaned child within me. 3 O Israel, (7) hope in the LORD (8) >From this time forth and forever. (Psalm 131) Izzy Simplicity, taken to the extreme, is elegance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 9:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... 1CO 13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... I think that the more sophisticated we become, the more likely we are to miss the pointwhich was the moral of the story. J Izzy Tis a gift to be simple, tis a gift to be free an old Shaker hymn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] the Little Children... Iz wrote/quoted (excerpted): one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close God really is to our hearts, relative to JCs teaching, below, 'close' is no cigar--the point is that the NT discloses mysteries (exclusive revelation, in and of itself, alone) brought into the present, now, from the future ftr, it's fair to say that severely retarded people could miss the point, above--but that problem shouldn't hinder you should it? lol On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:53:28 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -Original Message- [g:] Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now ,
[TruthTalk] the Little Children...
-Original Message- Iz--May I point out one remarkable aspect of this verse you posted(?)--the fact that Jesus stipulates what 'belongs' (pres tense) to'such as these' now , not merely someday, in the future--like tripping overshelter in the Rock rather thantripping on rocket science :-) but pls don't ask me what his has t'do with 'The Sabbath Breaker of Numbers' lol g On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:42:30 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 18:23:50 -0600 ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus said, Let the little children come to me..the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these. (Matt 19:14) That brings up a nice email I got along the same linesa bit long, but worth the read: God Lives Under the Bed... Don't start reading this one until you've got more than 3 or 4 minutes to just scan over it. It deserves some time for reflection. My brother Kevin thinks God lives under his bed. At least that's what I heard him say one night. He was praying out loud in his dark bedroom, and I stopped outside his closed door to listen. Are you there, God? he said. Where are you? Oh, I see. Under the bed. I giggled softly and tiptoed off to my own room. Kevin's unique perspectives are often a source of amusement. But that night something else lingered long after the humor. I realized for the first time the very different world Kevin lives in. He was born 30 years ago, mentally disabled as a result of difficulties during labor. Apart from his size (he's 6-foot-2), there are few ways in which he is an adult. He reasons and communicates with the capabilities of a 7-year-old, and he always will. He will probably always believe that God lives under his bed, that Santa Claus is the one who fills the space under our tree every Christmas, and that airplanes stay up in the sky because angels carry them. I remember wondering if Kevin realizes he is different. Is he ever dissatisfied with his monotonous life? Up before dawn each day, off to work at a workshop for the disabled, home to walk our cocker spaniel, return to eat his favorite macaroni-and-cheese for dinner, and later to bed. The only variation in the entire scheme is laundry, when he hovers excitedly over the washing machine like a mother with her newborn child. He does not seem dissatisfied. He lopes out to the bus every morning at 7:05, eager for a day of simple work. He wrings his hands excitedly while the water boils on the stove before dinner, and he stays up late twice a week to gather our dirty laundry for his next day's laundry chores. And Saturdays-oh, the bliss of Saturdays! That's the day my Dad takes Kevin to the airport to have a soft drink, watch the planes land, and speculates loudly on the destination of each passenger inside. That one's goin' to Chi-car-go! Kevin shouts as he claps his hands. His anticipation is so great he can hardly sleep on Friday nights. And so goes his world of daily rituals and weekend field trips. He doesn't know what it means to be discontent. His life is simple. He will never know the entanglements of wealth of power, and he does not care what brand of clothing he wears or what kind of food he eats. His needs have always been met, and he never worries that one day they may not be. His hands are diligent. Kevin is never so happy as when he is working. When he unloads the dishwasher or vacuums the carpet, his heart is completely in it. He does not shrink from a job when it is begun, and he does not leave a job until it is finished. But when his tasks are done, Kevin knows how to relax. He is not obsessed with his work or the work of others. His heart is pure. He still believes everyone tells the truth, promises must be kept, and when you are wrong, you apologize instead of argue. Free from pride and unconcerned with appearances, Kevin is not afraid to cry when he is hurt, angry or sorry. He is always transparent, always sincere. And he trusts God. Not confined by intellectual reasoning, when he comes to Christ, he comes as a child. Kevin seems to know God - to really be friends with Him in a way that is difficult for an educated person to grasp. God seems like his closest companion. In my moments of doubt and frustrations with my Christianity, I envy the security Kevin has in his simple faith. It is then that I am most willing to admit that he has some divine knowledge that rises above my mortal questions. It is then I realize that perhaps he is not the one with the handicap - I am. My obligations, my fear, my pride, my circumstances - they all become disabilities when I do not trust them to God's care. Who knows if Kevin comprehends things I can never learn? After all, he has spent his whole life in that kind of innocence, praying after dark and soaking up the goodness and love of God. And one day, when the mysteries of heaven are opened, and we are all amazed at how close
