RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Amen, David! I also believe that speaking evil of someone who is innocent of
your slanders is a BIG sin, whether or not you are aware that your
allegations are false. That is why we should all be VERY careful with the
words we use against others--they may very well be used against us on
Judgment Day! Rather than PREY on people, we should PRAY for people!!!

Izzy

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Perry wrote:
> What you are complaining about is not 
> anarchy...it is an attempt to understand 
> the truth behind our government's actions.

I have a different perception of this.  I think there is a spirit of
anarchy behind some of these posts.  Some of them are tainted with what
I believe is addressed in the following passage of Scripture:

2Pe 2:10  But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of
uncleanness, and DESPISE GOVERNMENT. Presumptuous are they, self-willed,
they are NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES. 
2Pe 2:11  Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring
not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 
2Pe 2:12  But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and
destroyed, SPEAK EVIL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND NOT; and shall
utterly perish in their own corruption; 
2Pe 2:13  And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that
count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes,
sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

2Pe 2:14  Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin;
beguiling unstable souls: a heart they have exercised with covetous
practices; cursed children: 
2Pe 2:15  Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray,
following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of
unrighteousness;

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread David Miller
Perry wrote:
> What you are complaining about is not 
> anarchy...it is an attempt to understand 
> the truth behind our government's actions.

I have a different perception of this.  I think there is a spirit of
anarchy behind some of these posts.  Some of them are tainted with what
I believe is addressed in the following passage of Scripture:

2Pe 2:10  But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of
uncleanness, and DESPISE GOVERNMENT. Presumptuous are they, self-willed,
they are NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK EVIL OF DIGNITIES. 
2Pe 2:11  Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring
not railing accusation against them before the Lord. 
2Pe 2:12  But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and
destroyed, SPEAK EVIL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND NOT; and shall
utterly perish in their own corruption; 
2Pe 2:13  And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that
count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes,
sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;

2Pe 2:14  Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin;
beguiling unstable souls: a heart they have exercised with covetous
practices; cursed children: 
2Pe 2:15  Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray,
following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of
unrighteousness;

Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida.

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RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Terry Clifton






Thanks for the clarification. Nope, I did not write that.  Sometimes 
I am gullible, but I have no data on the rest of America.
Terry Terry,Someone recently posted that "Americans are gullible". I thought you posted that. If not, I apologize. I delete my posts after I read them so can't pull up the original post.Perry>From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:08:04 -0600 (Central Standard Time)>>Perry:>What statement >Terry>>Terry, I disagree with your statement that we the people are gullible. I>believe that we respond based on the truth we are given, and with a>government that routinely controls and perverts the truth we are given, our>response cannot be appropriate. Continue to seek the truth.>>Perry_STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. 







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Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Dave Hansen


Charles Perry Locke wrote:

> Terry,
>
>Someone recently posted that "Americans are gullible". I thought you
> posted that. If not, I apologize. I delete my posts after I read them so
> can't pull up the original post.

DAVEH:  Perry, can't they be found in a TRASH folder?

> Perry

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RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Terry,

  Someone recently posted that "Americans are gullible". I thought you 
posted that. If not, I apologize. I delete my posts after I read them so 
can't pull up the original post.

Perry


From: "Terry Clifton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:08:04 -0600 (Central Standard Time)
Perry:
What statement 
Terry
Terry, I disagree with your statement that we the people are gullible. I
believe that we respond based on the truth we are given, and with a
government that routinely controls and perverts the truth we are given, our
response cannot be appropriate. Continue to seek the truth.
Perry


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RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Terry Clifton






Perry:
What statement 
Terry Terry, I disagree with your statement that we the people are gullible. I believe that we respond based on the truth we are given, and with a government that routinely controls and perverts the truth we are given, our response cannot be appropriate. Continue to seek the truth.Perry







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RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Terry Clifton







From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue
 
---Original Message---
 sday, March 25, 2003 10:32:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast
 Izzy, praying, voting, and working hard is part of the solution...and most of us do those things...exposing the truth is the other part of the equation...and those who expose unpleasant truth are always spurned by those who do not want to see the reality of the world. As a Christian I am sure you are keenly aware of this.What you are complaining about is not anarchy...it is an attempt to understand the truth behind our government's actions. To play on a well-known concept, unless we know the truth, it cannot set us free.Terry, I disagree with your statement that we the people are gullible. I believe that we respond based on the truth we are given, and with a government that routinely controls and perverts the truth we are given, our response cannot be appropriate. Continue to seek the truth.Perry>From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast>Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:24:48 -0600>>Marlin, Chris, and Slade, and Other Anarchists,>>>>Truth is good. So is loyalty. What this nation needs is not more whiners,>complainers, critics, and conspiracy rumor conspirators. One-dimensional>thinking is what leads you folks to do nothing but criticize the one nation>that allows you to do all the criticizing you desire, and to worship (or>not) any way you please. Talk is cheap. What this nation needs is more >folks>who will Pray, Vote, and Work hard to make it better! My motto is, >"America,>love it or leave it. Or at least quit your kvetching!" (I wasn't born on >the>4th of July for nothing.) :-)>>>> Izzy>>>>-Original Message->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:53 PM>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast>>>>Dear Slade,>>>>I appreciated the article. It is nice when somebody takes the time to>thread together the truth behind the manipulations that I keep seeing in >the>media's propaganda. The American public is so gullible.>>>>I see what you shared as relevant to this forum because Dave recently>clarified that this is a forum for truth.>>I want to make it perfectly clear that TruthTalk is NOT a Christian>list. TruthTalk is a list for talking about Truth, and we welcome>people here of all religions as well as those with no religion. We have>only one rule on TruthTalk, and that is that there should be no ad>hominem attacks. The reason for this rule is not because ad hominem>arguments are sinful, but rather because in this kind of forum, they>simply hinder fruitful discussion rather than help it. --Dave Miller>>Now "the truth" is God's word. But other truths help us to see the powers>of darkness that are allowed to rule in the high places over the earth >until>our Lord returns. Many people are offended by these things because they>upset the comfort zone of the great delusion over those who love not the>truth.>>>>--Marlin>>>>>>- Original Message ->>From: "Slade Henson" < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>To: < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:45 PM>>Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast>>>> > OIL ON YOUR FRENCH TOAST> > THE FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN IRAQ> > March 21, 2003> > The French had a very good reason not to go along with the US in >the> > War in Iraq. For over 50 years US oil companies and US policy have>"stolen"> > French oil properties and contracts which has cost the French trillions >of> > dollars.>_MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus--"Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.orgIf you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.. 







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Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread ttxpress



why is this essay 
'anonymous'?
 
 
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:07:37 -0500 "Marlin Halverson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes:

  

|| 
I received this post from another email 
groups.  What do you think of it?
 
--Marlin

UNDERSTANDING JURISDICTIONAnonymousIn all of 
history...


RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Charles P. Locke
Izzy, praying, voting, and working hard is part of the solution...and most 
of us do those things...exposing the truth is the other part of the 
equation...and those who expose unpleasant truth are always spurned by those 
who do not want to see the reality of the world. As a Christian I am sure 
you are keenly aware of this.

  What you are complaining about is not anarchy...it is an attempt to 
understand the truth behind our government's actions. To play on a 
well-known concept, unless we know the truth, it cannot set us free.

  Terry, I disagree with your statement that we the people are gullible. I 
believe that we respond based on the truth we are given, and with a 
government that routinely controls and perverts the truth we are given, our 
response cannot be appropriate. Continue to seek the truth.

Perry

From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 08:24:48 -0600
Marlin, Chris, and Slade, and Other Anarchists,



Truth is good. So is loyalty. What this nation needs is not more whiners,
complainers, critics, and conspiracy rumor conspirators. One-dimensional
thinking is what leads you folks to do nothing but criticize the one nation
that allows you to do all the criticizing you desire, and to worship (or
not) any way you please. Talk is cheap. What this nation needs is more 
folks
who will Pray, Vote, and Work hard to make it better! My motto is, 
"America,
love it or leave it. Or at least quit your kvetching!" (I wasn't born on 
the
4th of July for nothing.) :-)



 Izzy



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast


Dear Slade,



I appreciated the article.  It is nice when somebody takes the time to
thread together the truth behind the manipulations that I keep seeing in 
the
media's propaganda.  The American public is so gullible.



I see what you shared as relevant to this forum because Dave recently
clarified that this is a forum for truth.
I want to make it perfectly clear that TruthTalk is NOT a Christian
list.  TruthTalk is a list for talking about Truth, and we welcome
people here of all religions as well as those with no religion.  We have
only one rule on TruthTalk, and that is that there should be no ad
hominem attacks.  The reason for this rule is not because ad hominem
arguments are sinful, but rather because in this kind of forum, they
simply hinder fruitful discussion rather than help it.  --Dave Miller
Now "the truth" is God's word.  But other truths help us to see the  powers
of darkness that are allowed to rule in the high places over the earth 
until
our Lord returns.  Many people are offended by these things because they
upset the comfort zone of the great delusion over those who love not the
truth.



--Marlin





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From: "Slade Henson" < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:45 PM

Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast



> OIL ON YOUR FRENCH TOAST
> THE FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN IRAQ
> March 21, 2003
>  The French had a very good reason not to go along with the US in 
the
> War in Iraq. For over 50 years US oil companies and US policy have
"stolen"
> French oil properties and contracts which has cost the French trillions 
of
> dollars.



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Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread Slade Henson




By faith he [Abraham] lived as an alien in the land of promise, as in a 
foreign land, dwelling in tents with Isaac and Jacob, fellow heirs of the same 
promise; for he was looking for the city which has foundations, whose architect 
and builder is God. (Hebrew 11:9-10)
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  ShieldsFamily 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, 25 March, 2003 08:24
  Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your 
  French Toast
  
  
  Marlin, Chris, and Slade, and 
  Other Anarchists,
   
  Truth is good. So is loyalty. What 
  this nation needs is not more whiners, complainers, critics, and conspiracy 
  rumor conspirators. One-dimensional thinking is what leads you folks to do 
  nothing but criticize the one nation that allows you to do all the criticizing 
  you desire, and to worship (or not) any way you please. Talk is cheap. What 
  this nation needs is more folks who will Pray, Vote, and Work hard to make it 
  better! My motto is, “America, love it or 
  leave it. Or at least quit your kvetching!” (I wasn’t born on the 
  4th of July for nothing.) J
   
   Izzy
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  On Behalf Of Marlin 
  HalversonSent: Monday, March 
  24, 2003 9:53 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your 
  French Toast
   
  
  Dear 
Slade,
  
   
  
  I appreciated the article.  
  It is nice when somebody takes the time to thread together the truth 
  behind the manipulations that I keep seeing in the media's 
  propaganda.  The American public is so gullible.
  
   
  
  I see what you shared as relevant 
  to this forum because Dave recently clarified that this is a forum for 
  truth.
  

I want to make it perfectly 
clear that TruthTalk is NOT a Christianlist.  TruthTalk is a list 
for talking about Truth, and we welcomepeople here of all religions as 
well as those with no religion.  We haveonly one rule on TruthTalk, 
and that is that there should be no adhominem attacks.  The reason 
for this rule is not because ad hominemarguments are sinful, but rather 
because in this kind of forum, theysimply hinder fruitful discussion 
rather than help it.  --Dave Miller
  
  Now "the truth" is God's 
  word.  But other truths help us to see the  powers of darkness that 
  are allowed to rule in the high places over the earth until our Lord 
  returns.  Many people are offended by these things because they upset the 
  comfort zone of the great delusion over those who love not the 
  truth.
  
   
  
  --Marlin
  
   
  
   
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  
  From: "Slade Henson" 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:45 
  PM
  
  Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your 
  French Toast
  
   
  > OIL ON YOUR FRENCH 
  TOAST> THE FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN 
  IRAQ> March 21, 2003>  The French had a 
  very good reason not to go along with the US in the> War in Iraq. For 
  over 50 years US oil companies and US policy have "stolen"> French oil 
  properties and contracts which has cost the French trillions of> 
  dollars.


RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily









Marlin, Chris, and Slade, and Other Anarchists,

 

Truth is good. So is loyalty. What this nation needs is not
more whiners, complainers, critics, and conspiracy rumor conspirators. One-dimensional
thinking is what leads you folks to do nothing but criticize the one nation
that allows you to do all the criticizing you desire, and to worship (or not) any
way you please. Talk is cheap. What this nation needs is more folks who will Pray, Vote, and Work hard to make it
better! My motto is, “America,
love it or leave it. Or at least quit your kvetching!” (I wasn’t born on the 4th
of July for nothing.) J

 

 Izzy

 

-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlin Halverson
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:53
PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on
Your French Toast

 



Dear Slade,





 





I appreciated the article.  It
is nice when somebody takes the time to thread together the truth behind
the manipulations that I keep seeing in the media's propaganda.  The
American public is so gullible.





 





I see what you shared as relevant to
this forum because Dave recently clarified that this is a forum for truth.







I want to make it perfectly clear
that TruthTalk is NOT a Christian
list.  TruthTalk is a list for talking about Truth, and we welcome
people here of all religions as well as those with no religion.  We have
only one rule on TruthTalk, and that is that there should be no ad
hominem attacks.  The reason for this rule is not because ad hominem
arguments are sinful, but rather because in this kind of forum, they
simply hinder fruitful discussion rather than help it.  --Dave Miller







Now "the truth" is God's
word.  But other truths help us to see the  powers of darkness that
are allowed to rule in the high places over the earth until our Lord
returns.  Many people are offended by these things because they upset the
comfort zone of the great delusion over those who love not the truth.





 





--Marlin





 





 





- Original Message - 



From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:45 PM





Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your
French Toast







 



> OIL ON YOUR FRENCH TOAST
> THE FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN IRAQ
> March 21, 2003
>  The French had a very good reason not to go along
with the US in the
> War in Iraq. For over 50 years US oil companies and US policy have
"stolen"
> French oil properties and contracts which has cost the French trillions of
> dollars.








Re: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-24 Thread Marlin Halverson



Dear Slade,
 
I appreciated the article.  It is nice when somebody 
takes the time to thread together the truth behind the manipulations that I 
keep seeing in the media's propaganda.  The American public is so 
gullible.
 
I see what you shared as relevant to this forum because 
Dave recently clarified that this is a forum for truth.

  I want to make it perfectly clear that TruthTalk is NOT 
  a Christianlist.  TruthTalk is a list for talking about Truth, and we 
  welcomepeople here of all religions as well as those with no 
  religion.  We haveonly one rule on TruthTalk, and that is that there 
  should be no adhominem attacks.  The reason for this rule is not 
  because ad hominemarguments are sinful, but rather because in this kind of 
  forum, theysimply hinder fruitful discussion rather than help it.  
  --Dave Miller
Now "the truth" is God's word.  But other 
truths help us to see the  powers of darkness that are allowed to rule in 
the high places over the earth until our Lord returns.  Many people are 
offended by these things because they upset the comfort zone of the great 
delusion over those who love not the truth.
 
--Marlin
 
 
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From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French 
Toast
> OIL ON YOUR FRENCH 
TOAST> THE FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN IRAQ> 
March 21, 2003>  The French had a very good 
reason not to go along with the US in the> War in Iraq. For over 50 years 
US oil companies and US policy have "stolen"> French oil properties and 
contracts which has cost the French trillions of> 
dollars.


RE: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

2003-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily








 

I'd
like to suggest that we keep politics off of TruthTalk unless there is some
spiritual point to make about it.  Then we will not be tempted to dislike
someone because we dislike their politics. (And we won't be tempted to change
our breakfast menu to include Frog Toast.) I have a son in the Air Force, and
you really don't want me to go
there! :-)  Izzy

 

 

-Original
Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Slade Henson
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TruthTalk] Oil on Your French Toast

 

OIL
ON YOUR FRENCH TOAST

THE
FRENCH, GERMANS AND RUSSIANS DIDN'T WANT A WAR IN IRAQ

March
 21, 2003


The French had a very good reason not to go along with the US in
the

War
in Iraq. For over 50 years US oil companies and US policy have
"stolen"

French
oil properties and contracts which has cost the French trillions of

dollars.