Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea You know JD that one day you will stand before the Truth responsible for every idle or non productive word that comes from your lips and your keyboard; I hope you are also aware that misquoting others as badly as you do above is a lie which will not pass muster either. and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd Ignorance is bliss JD; can't you read? To begin with Christ had no original ideas, every word spoken by Him was from the Father and you JD are obviously dancing to your own tune - not His. From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
There you go LYING again please show where I preach "military peace in the church" or retract your psycho assertionism! I refuse to be misrepresented. Perhaps you are just confused. I am not an not a Potentate, pope or protestant and stop associating me with such madmen! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
Thank you Judy you are much more Gracious in your response, than I Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea You know JD that one day you will stand before the Truth responsible for every idle or non productive word that comes from your lips and your keyboard; I hope you are also aware that misquoting others as badly as you do above is a lie which will not pass muster either. and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd Ignorance is bliss JD; can't you read? To begin with Christ had no original ideas, every word spoken by Him was from the Father and you JD are obviously dancing to your own tune - not His. From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
myth (evidence indicates that the writer, below, preaches military warfare in the church) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:51:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I [do not] preach "military peace in the church"
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
..as does Matron SF On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 07:50:24 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (evidence indicates that the writer, below, preaches military warfare in the church) On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:51:31 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I [do not] preach "military peace in the church"
Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED
And yet the truth remains "Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God" (too bad women are not included - right Judy - or could it be that gender related expression often have nothing to do with gender ) You continue to dance around the major premise. Interesting. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. > Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea > > You know JD that one day you will stand before the Truth responsible for > every idle > or non productive word that comes from your lips and your keyboard; I > hope you are > also aware that misquoting others as badly as you do above is a lie which > will not > pass muster either. > > and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle > thinking > that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - > you decide. jd > > Ignorance is bliss JD; can't you read? To begin with Christ had no > original ideas, every > word spoken by Him was from the Father and you JD are obviously dancing > to your own > tune - not His. > > > From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking > Peace, Peace, > when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt > > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely > ignored by the author, above. Why? jd > There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not > divided ... > The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" > Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, > push off a cliff > and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt > --- Begin Message --- On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:31 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin is over there, talking about military peace within the chruch. Judy is over here, telling us why "world peace" is a bad idea You know JD that one day you will stand before the Truth responsible for every idle or non productive word that comes from your lips and your keyboard; I hope you are also aware that misquoting others as badly as you do above is a lie which will not pass muster either. and then, there is Pastor Smithson, standing somewhere near the middle thinking that Christ's idea of "peacemaker" is a pretty good tune. You read - you decide. jd Ignorance is bliss JD; can't you read? To begin with Christ had no original ideas, every word spoken by Him was from the Father and you JD are obviously dancing to your own tune - not His. From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Because a lot of ppl go around talking about World Peace and talking Peace, Peace, when the way of peace they have never known. Sound familiar?? jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:20:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And yet, Matt 5:9 remains relevant to the discussion while completely ignored by the author, above. Why? jd There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There are NO opposing opinions within scripture because Christ is not divided ... The opposers are those who reject the "clear Word of Truth" Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff and finally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 05:00:05 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- K
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Jude 1 it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! 2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience Error is always offended by Truth, Error is easily offended by truth, Truth is not hate. Truth by definition is not tolerant of error Now you can't have it both ways You are either tolerant of all "Creeds"Or you are the "one true church", and all others are an abomination Which is it? To tolerate everything is too teach nothing Contend: The act or an instance of striving in controversy or debate. See Synonyms at discord. A striving to win in competition; rivalry: The teams met in fierce contention for first place. An assertion put forward in argument. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes?__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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*myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the [real] you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal
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..that one is intensely militaristic does not mean the bible is that way On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:46:41 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the [real] you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal
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..biblically, some 'weapons' of some 'warfare' sponsored by God ain't ritually 'militaristic' which has to do with why no militaries stand a chance, e.g., vs. Gabriel, et. al., blind as bats to What they think they're 'fighting' On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:55:46 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..that one is intensely militaristic does not mean the bible is that way On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:46:41 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the [real] you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal
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..Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The..rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One. "Let us break their chains," they say, ..The One enthroned in heaven laughs... (Ps 2) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:15:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] re-writes: ..biblically, some 'weapons' of some 'warfare' sponsored by God ain't ritually 'militaristic' which has to do with why no militaries stand a chance, blind as bats to What..they're 'fighting' (e.g., vs. Gabriel, et. al.) ||
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..'The One enthroned in heaven laughs' <--basically present tense language hundreds of years before the NT/Lukan histories of JCs reign, meaning that mighty, mainly male militarism has always been a joke to Bible Authors On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:34:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The..rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One. "Let us break their chains," they say, ..The One enthroned in heaven laughs... (Ps 2) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:15:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] re-writes: ..biblically, some 'weapons' of some 'warfare' sponsored by God ain't ritually 'militaristic' which has to do with why no militaries stand a chance, blind as bats to What..they're 'fighting' (e.g., vs. Gabriel, et. al.) ||
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Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! -- Kevin Deegan Spoken as if there were no opposing opinions within scripture. Christ puts it this way Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the sons of God. jd -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jude 1 it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Christianity is not a polite Debate society with all creeds given equal sway. Christianity is not concerned with egalitarian exchage of ideas with worldviews that are in error.. Christianity is not a hugfest The Bible uses Military imagery, when talking of the "good Fight of faith"! 2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience Error is always offended by Truth, Error is easily offended by truth, Truth is not hate. Truth by definition is not tolerant of error Now you can't have it both ways You are either tolerant of all "Creeds"Or you are the "one true church", and all others are an abomination Which is it? To tolerate everything is too teach nothing Contend: The act or an instance of striving in controversy or debate. See Synonyms at discord. A striving to win in competition; rivalry: The teams met in fierce contention for first place. An assertion put forward in argument. Dave Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does this come close to a NON BLATANT AD HOM in your eyes? __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Et al -- I do believe the Pragmatic Prince of the Postulated Premise (love) has presented a most passionate and perfeced reply. Nails on my man !! Best reply of the new year. Pastor Smithson -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 20:41:00 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: *myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the [real] you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal
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WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT MILITARISTIC?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *myth* (both the Military & its imagery are 'carnal', therefore, unlike the you, the bible is anti-militaristic) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 18:42:23 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: *The Bible uses Military imagery,.* || ..2 CO 10 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
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And He will strike the earth with the (L)rod of His mouth, And with the (M)breath of His lips He will slay the wicked. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:49 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED ..'The One enthroned in heaven laughs' <--basically present tense language hundreds of years before the NT/Lukan histories of JCs reign, meaning that mighty, mainly male militarism has always been a joke to Bible Authors On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:34:51 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Why do the nations conspire and the peoples plot in vain? The..rulers gather together against the LORD and against his Anointed One. "Let us break their chains," they say, ..The One enthroned in heaven laughs... (Ps 2) On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:15:21 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] re-writes: ..biblically, some 'weapons' of some 'warfare' sponsored by God ain't ritually 'militaristic' which has to do with why no militaries stand a chance, blind as bats to What..they're 'fighting' (e.g., vs. Gabriel, et. al.) ||