Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
Following is another link to a National Geographic article on the ossuary of James. It has a little bit more information. http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/10/1021_021021_christianrelicbo x.html Peace be with you. David Miller. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:36 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus OLDEST ARCHAEOLOGICAL LINK TO JESUS REVEALED A burial box inscribed with the words "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" and dated to 63 A.D. was revealed Monday. Read more at the following links: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60769-2002Oct21.html http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_BAR/bswbbar2806f1.html -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
Blainer) Thanks david, that was very interesting. Sounds authentic. On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:32:59 -0400 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OLDEST ARCHAEOLOGICAL LINK TO JESUS REVEALED > A burial box inscribed with the words "James, son of Joseph, brother > of > Jesus" and dated to 63 A.D. was revealed Monday. > Read more at the following link: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60769-2002Oct21.html > > Peace be with you. > David Miller. > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you > may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you > have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
I expect not to sin today. I don't get up any day expecting to sin. I am somewhat surprised by your answer. I thought you had indicated before that it was ridiculous to think that somebody could believe in Christ and expect not to sin again. Your answer here seems to indicate the opposite. In fact, from your answer it sounds like you believe in the doctrine of Christian perfection. Should I just accept your answer that Christians should not expect to sin in the future, and that it is not ok or normal for them to sin from time to time? Is this truly your answer? Yes. But I still think we are differing somewhere but I don't know where exactly.
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
David Miller wrote: > If I have misunderstood you, I will apologize. > Please answer the following questions to help me > understand whether or not you justify sin. Should > Christians expect to sin in the future? Should they > feel that it is ok and normal if they do happen to sin > from time to time? In other words, should Christians > be encouraged to feel good about themselves if they > sin, because nobody is perfect? Does God see them > just them same whether or not they sin? Glenn wrote: > The answer to all the below is no. I am somewhat surprised by your answer. I thought you had indicated before that it was ridiculous to think that somebody could believe in Christ and expect not to sin again. Your answer here seems to indicate the opposite. In fact, from your answer it sounds like you believe in the doctrine of Christian perfection. Should I just accept your answer that Christians should not expect to sin in the future, and that it is not ok or normal for them to sin from time to time? Is this truly your answer? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
Glenn - The answer to all the below is no. Glenn wrote: > You refuse to listen to me. > I don't justify sin period. If I have misunderstood you, I will apologize. Please answer the following questions to help me understand whether or not you justify sin. Should Christians expect to sin in the future? Should they feel that it is ok and normal if they do happen to sin from time to time? In other words, should Christians be encouraged to feel good about themselves if they sin, because nobody is perfect? Does God see them just them same whether or not they sin?
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
Glenn wrote: > You refuse to listen to me. > I don't justify sin period. If I have misunderstood you, I will apologize. Please answer the following questions to help me understand whether or not you justify sin. Should Christians expect to sin in the future? Should they feel that it is ok and normal if they do happen to sin from time to time? In other words, should Christians be encouraged to feel good about themselves if they sin, because nobody is perfect? Does God see them just them same whether or not they sin? Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
I dont justify sin period, but I do recognize it when I see it. And I see it in you. You are not perfect. Just look at how Glenn justifies a little sin in the life of Christians!
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
You refuse to listen to me. I don't justify sin period. Just look at how Glenn justifies a little sin in the life of Christians!
Re: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
Izzy wrote: > What significance do you think this find has for us > as Christians, if any? I wish it could be proved > that this was the actual, physical brother of Jesus > --at least that would put an end to all this Virgin > Mary worship, wouldn't it? I don't think a find like this would impact Mariolatry. People can rationalize just about anything they want to. Just look at how Glenn justifies a little sin in the life of Christians! Even now, critics are calculating the probability of how many families might have Joseph as the father with James and Jesus as brothers. In other words, the attack right now concerns whether or not the Jesus mentioned is the Jesus of Christianity. :-) For those of us who are less inclined to explain away evidence like this, I think this is a major archaeological find. It adds independent evidence for the date that Josephus assigns for the date that James was martyred, as well as independent evidence for the relationship between Joseph, James, and Jesus. I don't read Aramaic, so I am waiting for the next issue of BAR to hopefully learn more from the experts concerning the exact Aramaic words used and their range of meanings. Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
RE: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus
What significance do you think this find has for us as Christians, if any? I wish it could be proved that this was the actual, physical brother of Jesus--at least that would put an end to all this Virgin Mary worship, wouldn't it? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk-owner@;mail.innglory.org] On Behalf Of David Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] New archaeological find concerning James the brother of Jesus OLDEST ARCHAEOLOGICAL LINK TO JESUS REVEALED A burial box inscribed with the words "James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus" and dated to 63 A.D. was revealed Monday. Read more at the following links: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60769-2002Oct21.html http://www.bib-arch.org/bswb_BAR/bswbbar2806f1.html Peace be with you. David Miller. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
