Re: Big Bank Sample
Since there seemed to be no objections, and I said I'd lend a hand I've started the port with this check in : http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrevision=447397 As it says: Should build, pom.xml updated, scdl updated, some java updated apache headers addressed and war plugin added. I think it's a reasonable start. Rick wrote: If the direction is to get BB first running at an M1 ported level, having worked on that I'll try and lend a hand too. Simon Nash wrote: These suggestions sound great. As a first step, I think it would make sense to get the current BigBank sample from M1 ported to the recursive model so that it works on M2. I am willing to work on this if people think that it would be useful. Simon Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeffery Guo You were interested in this sibject a while ago, just want to check if you were able to make any progress, and if you need any help/guidance. - Luciano On 8/10/06, Robbie Minshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJAX interaction is always good for traction these days, just as a cool UI has always been attractive. The speration of presentation and application implementation is great and obviously nothing new or particular to SCA. Is fine grained service interaction with the UI a good thing from a performance perspective ? Reworking the Big Bank sample s.t it is cleanly broken up into service components, and providing a good tutorial for replacing service components with other provided implementations is where this should go. Another good tutorial that could go with the samples would be taking the service components of big bank and creating a new completely different application from scratch reusing the service components. This tutorial could/should discuss developing generalized non application specific services where possible which is where the potential benefits from SCA reside. I will think on this some more next week but would be really interested in more thoughts on this topic and would probably enjoy working on it. Enjoy, Robbie On 8/9/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... I have this belief that SCA would make a good platform for building the server-side handlers for Ajax components. In that mode, the presentation side is done in the browser and the UI widgets make calls to the server consuming services just like anything else. This is a fine-grained, close-coupled service architecture between the browser and the host server. A simple scenario to demonstrate this would be to supplement a traditional JSP UI with one based on Ajax. For example, suppose we have an application with a set of services that provide its business logic that get called from server-based UI code (JSP, Struts, Spring, something) - this would be the traditional (dumb-browser) model. We then supplement that with an Ajax front-end which replaces the UI code with client-side JavaScript but leaves *all* the business logic unchanged. This shows how easy it is to implement this class of application on top of a service-based architecture. One way would be to take an application like MyValue, separate the UI from the services and then add the JS client code. -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * * * Charlie * * * Check out some pics of little Charlie at http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/ * * * Addresss * * * 1914 Overland Drive Chapel Hill NC 27517 * * * Number * * * 919-225-1553 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Bank Sample
Hi Jeffery Guo You were interested in this sibject a while ago, just want to check if you were able to make any progress, and if you need any help/guidance. - Luciano On 8/10/06, Robbie Minshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJAX interaction is always good for traction these days, just as a cool UI has always been attractive. The speration of presentation and application implementation is great and obviously nothing new or particular to SCA. Is fine grained service interaction with the UI a good thing from a performance perspective ? Reworking the Big Bank sample s.t it is cleanly broken up into service components, and providing a good tutorial for replacing service components with other provided implementations is where this should go. Another good tutorial that could go with the samples would be taking the service components of big bank and creating a new completely different application from scratch reusing the service components. This tutorial could/should discuss developing generalized non application specific services where possible which is where the potential benefits from SCA reside. I will think on this some more next week but would be really interested in more thoughts on this topic and would probably enjoy working on it. Enjoy, Robbie On 8/9/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... I have this belief that SCA would make a good platform for building the server-side handlers for Ajax components. In that mode, the presentation side is done in the browser and the UI widgets make calls to the server consuming services just like anything else. This is a fine-grained, close-coupled service architecture between the browser and the host server. A simple scenario to demonstrate this would be to supplement a traditional JSP UI with one based on Ajax. For example, suppose we have an application with a set of services that provide its business logic that get called from server-based UI code (JSP, Struts, Spring, something) - this would be the traditional (dumb-browser) model. We then supplement that with an Ajax front-end which replaces the UI code with client-side JavaScript but leaves *all* the business logic unchanged. This shows how easy it is to implement this class of application on top of a service-based architecture. One way would be to take an application like MyValue, separate the UI from the services and then add the JS client code. -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * * * Charlie * * * Check out some pics of little Charlie at http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/ * * * Addresss * * * 1914 Overland Drive Chapel Hill NC 27517 * * * Number * * * 919-225-1553 -- - Luciano Resende SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany -
Re: Big Bank Sample
These suggestions sound great. As a first step, I think it would make sense to get the current BigBank sample from M1 ported to the recursive model so that it works on M2. I am willing to work on this if people think that it would be useful. Simon Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeffery Guo You were interested in this sibject a while ago, just want to check if you were able to make any progress, and if you need any help/guidance. - Luciano On 8/10/06, Robbie Minshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJAX interaction is always good for traction these days, just as a cool UI has always been attractive. The speration of presentation and application implementation is great and obviously nothing new or particular to SCA. Is fine grained service interaction with the UI a good thing from a performance perspective ? Reworking the Big Bank sample s.t it is cleanly broken up into service components, and providing a good tutorial for replacing service components with other provided implementations is where this should go. Another good tutorial that could go with the samples would be taking the service components of big bank and creating a new completely different application from scratch reusing the service components. This tutorial could/should discuss developing generalized non application specific services where possible which is where the potential benefits from SCA reside. I will think on this some more next week but would be really interested in more thoughts on this topic and would probably enjoy working on it. Enjoy, Robbie On 8/9/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... I have this belief that SCA would make a good platform for building the server-side handlers for Ajax components. In that mode, the presentation side is done in the browser and the UI widgets make calls to the server consuming services just like anything else. This is a fine-grained, close-coupled service architecture between the browser and the host server. A simple scenario to demonstrate this would be to supplement a traditional JSP UI with one based on Ajax. For example, suppose we have an application with a set of services that provide its business logic that get called from server-based UI code (JSP, Struts, Spring, something) - this would be the traditional (dumb-browser) model. We then supplement that with an Ajax front-end which replaces the UI code with client-side JavaScript but leaves *all* the business logic unchanged. This shows how easy it is to implement this class of application on top of a service-based architecture. One way would be to take an application like MyValue, separate the UI from the services and then add the JS client code. -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * * * Charlie * * * Check out some pics of little Charlie at http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/ * * * Addresss * * * 1914 Overland Drive Chapel Hill NC 27517 * * * Number * * * 919-225-1553 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Bank Sample
AJAX interaction is always good for traction these days, just as a cool UI has always been attractive. The speration of presentation and application implementation is great and obviously nothing new or particular to SCA. Is fine grained service interaction with the UI a good thing from a performance perspective ? Reworking the Big Bank sample s.t it is cleanly broken up into service components, and providing a good tutorial for replacing service components with other provided implementations is where this should go. Another good tutorial that could go with the samples would be taking the service components of big bank and creating a new completely different application from scratch reusing the service components. This tutorial could/should discuss developing generalized non application specific services where possible which is where the potential benefits from SCA reside. I will think on this some more next week but would be really interested in more thoughts on this topic and would probably enjoy working on it. Enjoy, Robbie On 8/9/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... I have this belief that SCA would make a good platform for building the server-side handlers for Ajax components. In that mode, the presentation side is done in the browser and the UI widgets make calls to the server consuming services just like anything else. This is a fine-grained, close-coupled service architecture between the browser and the host server. A simple scenario to demonstrate this would be to supplement a traditional JSP UI with one based on Ajax. For example, suppose we have an application with a set of services that provide its business logic that get called from server-based UI code (JSP, Struts, Spring, something) - this would be the traditional (dumb-browser) model. We then supplement that with an Ajax front-end which replaces the UI code with client-side JavaScript but leaves *all* the business logic unchanged. This shows how easy it is to implement this class of application on top of a service-based architecture. One way would be to take an application like MyValue, separate the UI from the services and then add the JS client code. -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- * * * Charlie * * * Check out some pics of little Charlie at http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/ * * * Addresss * * * 1914 Overland Drive Chapel Hill NC 27517 * * * Number * * * 919-225-1553
RE: Big Bank Sample
Hi all, I would like to join the tuscany effort also, would this be a good starting point? I'd appreciate any guidance you coule provide. Thanks! Jeff -Original Message- From: Kapil Katyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:50 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Big Bank Sample Hi, Does anyone know the current status of the Big Bank Sample, specifically what is still required to get the sample up and running on the latest Tuscany code. We have a few resources here that can help with this effort. We're not too familiar with the new recursive model, but we're willing to learn if someone wants to help guide us. Thanks, Kapil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Bank Sample
One thing we are looking for is real-world applications of SCA - things that can show off what Tuscany can do. If you have any applications in mind they would be welcome. These could be variants on the BigBank theme (say a Ajax front end) or something completely different. -- Jeremy On Aug 9, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Guo, Jeffrey wrote: Hi all, I would like to join the tuscany effort also, would this be a good starting point? I'd appreciate any guidance you coule provide. Thanks! Jeff -Original Message- From: Kapil Katyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:50 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Big Bank Sample Hi, Does anyone know the current status of the Big Bank Sample, specifically what is still required to get the sample up and running on the latest Tuscany code. We have a few resources here that can help with this effort. We're not too familiar with the new recursive model, but we're willing to learn if someone wants to help guide us. Thanks, Kapil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Big Bank Sample
Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... - Luciano On 8/9/06, Jeremy Boynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing we are looking for is real-world applications of SCA - things that can show off what Tuscany can do. If you have any applications in mind they would be welcome. These could be variants on the BigBank theme (say a Ajax front end) or something completely different. -- Jeremy On Aug 9, 2006, at 8:10 AM, Guo, Jeffrey wrote: Hi all, I would like to join the tuscany effort also, would this be a good starting point? I'd appreciate any guidance you coule provide. Thanks! Jeff -Original Message- From: Kapil Katyal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:50 AM To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Big Bank Sample Hi, Does anyone know the current status of the Big Bank Sample, specifically what is still required to get the sample up and running on the latest Tuscany code. We have a few resources here that can help with this effort. We're not too familiar with the new recursive model, but we're willing to learn if someone wants to help guide us. Thanks, Kapil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Luciano Resende SOA Opensource - Apache Tuscany -
Re: Big Bank Sample
On Aug 9, 2006, at 12:29 PM, Luciano Resende wrote: Hi Jeremy I'd be interested in working on some variation of BigBank or maybe a new sample scenarion that would use a Ajax front end. Do you have any toughts on possible scenarios, or areas you would like to exercise in this ajax sampleotherwise I could think of something... I have this belief that SCA would make a good platform for building the server-side handlers for Ajax components. In that mode, the presentation side is done in the browser and the UI widgets make calls to the server consuming services just like anything else. This is a fine-grained, close-coupled service architecture between the browser and the host server. A simple scenario to demonstrate this would be to supplement a traditional JSP UI with one based on Ajax. For example, suppose we have an application with a set of services that provide its business logic that get called from server-based UI code (JSP, Struts, Spring, something) - this would be the traditional (dumb-browser) model. We then supplement that with an Ajax front-end which replaces the UI code with client-side JavaScript but leaves *all* the business logic unchanged. This shows how easy it is to implement this class of application on top of a service-based architecture. One way would be to take an application like MyValue, separate the UI from the services and then add the JS client code. -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
