Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh oh, I did not mean to slag Django! I didn't take it that way, no worries! > I was basing this on the talk given by Jacob Kaplin-Moss(one of the > developers). He gave a great talk but became a bit evasive when he was > questioned about Django scaling down to a single developer, specifically > when he was questioned about the template views portion. Strange. I can't think of any reason why Django would not be suitable for a single developer. Of course the developer has to understand HTML and probably CSS and JavaScript but that is no different than any other web development tool. Googling finds this: http://www.cmlenz.net/archives/2006/08/the-python-web-framework which seems to refer to the same talk. I am not a fan of the Django template language - I think it is too restrictive - but I don't see how it is harder to use it as a single developer than it would be for a team... Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
Oh oh, I did not mean to slag Django! I was basing this on the talk given by Jacob Kaplin-Moss(one of the developers). He gave a great talk but became a bit evasive when he was questioned about Django scaling down to a single developer, specifically when he was questioned about the template views portion. "IT SEEMED" I am not qualified to give advice on Django, sorry if I ticked off anyone! Anyone here using CherryPy? Did anyone consider it and then pass on it? -Patrick Kent Johnson wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. Why do you say that? Django works fine with a single developer. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM, ammar azif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides > alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework > automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I'm surprised to hear this. Django generates a few very simple files when you start a project but other than that it is your code. I guess there is a lot that goes on under the hood in the models but I always felt like the major parts of the app were clearly exposed. Anyway I have heard good things about web.py too, you should stick with what works for you. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit > sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. Why do you say that? Django works fine with a single developer. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py
ammar azif wrote: ... share their thoughts on these matters, I haven't tried web.py, but my experience with Django is the opposite of yours. Of course, I came to Django after climbing the learning curve of zope, so Django felt easy to deal with in comparison. It just seemed that each time I encountered a behavior that I wanted to change I could quickly locate the source, make the changes, and continue moving forward. Emile ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Any Italian speakers?
"Hansen, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Did you find anyone to traslate? Yes thanks, Daniele (sp?) replied with a translation. There are some Italian idiomatic things there so it confused Google (and Babelfish!) "I want chiderti only 1 thing... but according to you qualle and better program X to program? thanks " Exactly what Google said... It seems the reader wants to know which is the best programming language... Thanks anyway, Alan G. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
I am in the same situation as you. I was looking at Django and Turbogears. I have finally settled on CherryPy, which is also built into Turbogears. Watching this Google talk on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-WXiqrzAf8 it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. CherryPy seems to work well as a substitute for all-in-one-page CGI scripts without the respawning issues or as a proper MVC web application server. I set up an account at Webfaction. They specialize in Python hosting and you can set up Turbogears, Django, CherryPy etc with a click of a button. I would love to keep this thread going, please feedback as you move along, I feedback too -patrick ammar azif wrote: Hi, I am writing this to tell my experience on web.py. Two weeks ago, I was looking for a python web framework that is simple, straight-forward, easy to use and powerful at the same time. Django stood out as the most popular when I googled. I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I know that django is powerful, but the learning curve is too steep for me and I need to develop my app as soon as possible. I decided to give web.py a try and I found that the framework is easy to use and it gives a lot of control to the developer when handling GET and POST request and all these can be done in a single source code and using this framework has taught me a lot of low level web application programming basics. I might be wrong as I havent try django or any other frameworks yet. Hope python gurus here can share their thoughts on these matters, ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] My experience on web.py
Hi, I am writing this to tell my experience on web.py. Two weeks ago, I was looking for a python web framework that is simple, straight-forward, easy to use and powerful at the same time. Django stood out as the most popular when I googled. I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I know that django is powerful, but the learning curve is too steep for me and I need to develop my app as soon as possible. I decided to give web.py a try and I found that the framework is easy to use and it gives a lot of control to the developer when handling GET and POST request and all these can be done in a single source code and using this framework has taught me a lot of low level web application programming basics. I might be wrong as I havent try django or any other frameworks yet. Hope python gurus here can share their thoughts on these matters, ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Output never stops
David wrote:
[snip]
#!/usr/bin/python
person = {'Lary':43,'Joan':24}
choice = 0
while choice != '-1':
if choice == '':
print "You must enter Lary or Joan to continue! (-1 to quit): "
choice = raw_input(
"Who's age do want to know, Lary or Joan? (-1 to quit): ")
if choice == 'Lary':
print "Lary's age is:", person.get('Lary')
elif choice == 'Joan':
print "Joan's age is:", person.get('Joan')
else:
print "Goodbye!"
Consider leveraging the dictionary (and some other"Pythonic"
refinements). Separate the logic from the data. Now you can add more
names and ages without changing the logic.
#!/usr/bin/python
person = {'Lary':43, 'Joan':24, 'Bob':68}
keys = person.keys()
names = ', '.join(keys[:-1]) + ' or ' + keys[-1]
while True:
choice = raw_input("Who's age do want to know, %s? (-1 to quit): " %
names)
age = person.get(choice, None)
if age is not None:
print choice + "'s age is:", age
elif choice == "-1":
print "Goodbye!"
break
else:
print "Invalid choice " + choice
--
Bob Gailer
919-636-4239 Chapel Hill, NC
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Re: [Tutor] Any Italian speakers?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Gauld > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:55 PM > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] Any Italian speakers? > > I received this message which Google tells me is Italian but then > only gives a partial translation... > > Can anyone help? > > --- > voglio chiderti solo 1 cosa ... ma secondo te qualle e il > miglior programma X programmare??? > grazie ... > > da Cristian > - > > Alan G. Alan, Unfortunately, I only speak and read/write English. Did you find anyone to traslate? I plugged it into Bablefish and tried Italian to English and here's what I got.(Probably the same as you.). "I want chiderti only 1 thing... but according to you qualle and better program X to program? thanks " I also tried Spanish, Potuguese, and Greek, but the Italian one came out the best. Mike ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Does unittest slow down code
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Tomaz Bevec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is code executed within a unit test significantly slower than code executed > outside of a unit test? Does code executed within a unit test take up more > memory? Assuming you are asking about the unittest module...No, not unless you do something specific in the unit test, e.g. testing on a large data set would take more memory. Unittest just runs the code you tell it to and looks at the result. It doesn't instrument the code in any way. You do have to load the actual unittest module but I don't think it has any great memory requirements. Are you seeing this behaviour or just asking about it? Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] Does unittest slow down code
Is code executed within a unit test significantly slower than code executed outside of a unit test? Does code executed within a unit test take up more memory? --TJB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Firstrade Authentication: Form Management
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Federo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kent THANKS! It works great also on real account .. > > Two important Sub-QUESTIONS: > > 1.) Look attached word file. It describes form fields I would like to fill in > and read server resoult.. You just have to mimic what the browser does. Use a Firefox plugin that shows you what is being submitted; TamperData is one. Then set the same fields in your code. > 2.) Could you do the same login logic also with MECHANIZE plagin. There are > some very usefull function in this plagin I might use. However I have No, I'm not familiar with mechanize. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
