Re: [Tutor] League Secretary Application
In a message of Sat, 30 May 2015 13:32:09 +0100, Stephen Nelson-Smith writes: Hello, I'm the league secretary for a table tennis league. I have to generate a weekly results report, league table, and player averages, from results cards which arrive by post or email. The data is of the form: Division: 1 Week: 7 Home: Some Team Away: Different Team Player A: Fred Bloggs Player B: Nora Batty Player X: Jim Smith Player Y: Edna Jones A vs X: 3-0 B vs Y: 3-2 A vs Y: 3-0 B vs X: 3-2 Doubles: 3-1 From this I can calculate the points allocated to teams and produce a table. I've not done any real python for about 6 years, but figured it'd be fun to design and write something that would take away the time and error issues associated with generating this manually. Sure I could build a spreadsheet, but this seems more fun. I'm currently thinking through possible approaches, from parsing results written in, eg YAML, to a menu-driven system, to a web app. I'm generally in favour of the simplest thing that could possibly work, but I am conscious that there's a lot of room for data entry error and thus validation, if I just parse a file, or make a CLI. OTOH I have never ever written a web app, with forms etc. There's no time constraint here - this is merely for fun, and to make my life easier. Any thoughts? S. 1. There is no better reason to do things. 2. How do you receive your data now? Do you want to change this, perhaps extend the capabilities -- i.e. let people send an sms with results to your cell phone? Or limit the capabilities (Stop phoning me with this stuff! Use the webpage!) How you get your data is very relevant to the design. 3. After you have performed your calculation and made a table, what do you do with it? Email it to members? Publish it in a weekly dead-tree newspaper? Post it to a website? What you want to do with it once you have it is also very relevant to the design. Laura ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] League Secretary Application
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote: Hullo, On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote: 2. How do you receive your data now? Do you want to change this, perhaps extend the capabilities -- i.e. let people send an sms with results to your cell phone? Or limit the capabilities (Stop phoning me with this stuff! Use the webpage!) How you get your data is very relevant to the design. I get a physical card, or a photograph of the same. It'd be possible in the future to get people to use a website or a phone app, but for now, I enter the data from the cards, manually. 3. After you have performed your calculation and made a table, what do you do with it? Email it to members? Publish it in a weekly dead-tree newspaper? Post it to a website? What you want to do with it once you have it is also very relevant to the design. ATM I send an email out, and someone else takes that data and publishes it on a website. S. Take a look at django. The tutorial takes a couple of hours and gives you a good feel for whether it would suit you. You could say its overkill, but it makes it very easy to do CRUD stuff with validation built in. Displaying the results would be very easy as well. You could have your data providers input the data directly https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.8/intro/tutorial01/ -- Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] League Secretary Application
On 30/05/15 17:08, Stephen Nelson-Smith wrote: 3. After you have performed your calculation and made a table, what do you do with it? Email it to members? Publish it in a weekly dead-tree newspaper? Post it to a website? What you want to do with it once you have it is also very relevant to the design. ATM I send an email out, and someone else takes that data and publishes it on a website. You showed us sample input but what exactly does the output look like? In any data based program you should try to separate the presentation from the processing. So what does the output data look like(in content terms)? It might seem self evident to you because you are doing this already but it isn't so obvious to us. Once we know what the output data looks like we can decide how to present it (web table, excel spreadsheet, CSV file, PDF, whatever...) -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] League Secretary Application
Hello, I'm the league secretary for a table tennis league. I have to generate a weekly results report, league table, and player averages, from results cards which arrive by post or email. The data is of the form: Division: 1 Week: 7 Home: Some Team Away: Different Team Player A: Fred Bloggs Player B: Nora Batty Player X: Jim Smith Player Y: Edna Jones A vs X: 3-0 B vs Y: 3-2 A vs Y: 3-0 B vs X: 3-2 Doubles: 3-1 From this I can calculate the points allocated to teams and produce a table. I've not done any real python for about 6 years, but figured it'd be fun to design and write something that would take away the time and error issues associated with generating this manually. Sure I could build a spreadsheet, but this seems more fun. I'm currently thinking through possible approaches, from parsing results written in, eg YAML, to a menu-driven system, to a web app. I'm generally in favour of the simplest thing that could possibly work, but I am conscious that there's a lot of room for data entry error and thus validation, if I just parse a file, or make a CLI. OTOH I have never ever written a web app, with forms etc. There's no time constraint here - this is merely for fun, and to make my life easier. Any thoughts? S. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] League Secretary Application
Hullo, On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Laura Creighton l...@openend.se wrote: 2. How do you receive your data now? Do you want to change this, perhaps extend the capabilities -- i.e. let people send an sms with results to your cell phone? Or limit the capabilities (Stop phoning me with this stuff! Use the webpage!) How you get your data is very relevant to the design. I get a physical card, or a photograph of the same. It'd be possible in the future to get people to use a website or a phone app, but for now, I enter the data from the cards, manually. 3. After you have performed your calculation and made a table, what do you do with it? Email it to members? Publish it in a weekly dead-tree newspaper? Post it to a website? What you want to do with it once you have it is also very relevant to the design. ATM I send an email out, and someone else takes that data and publishes it on a website. S. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
