Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py
[..] > share > their thoughts on these > matters, I've been using TurboGears for a long time now. The documentation is a little patchy (reads more like a bunch of recipes) but the components which form the framework are all separate projects - each individually capable of standing on it's own legs. Also, the TG mailing list is extremely responsive and helpful. It's quick to get an app up and running and while some of the details are hidden, I've found that most of those are the things which I don't want to mess with. It's got a lot of nice components for authentication and things like that which make development quite nice. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh oh, I did not mean to slag Django! I didn't take it that way, no worries! > I was basing this on the talk given by Jacob Kaplin-Moss(one of the > developers). He gave a great talk but became a bit evasive when he was > questioned about Django scaling down to a single developer, specifically > when he was questioned about the template views portion. Strange. I can't think of any reason why Django would not be suitable for a single developer. Of course the developer has to understand HTML and probably CSS and JavaScript but that is no different than any other web development tool. Googling finds this: http://www.cmlenz.net/archives/2006/08/the-python-web-framework which seems to refer to the same talk. I am not a fan of the Django template language - I think it is too restrictive - but I don't see how it is harder to use it as a single developer than it would be for a team... Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
Oh oh, I did not mean to slag Django! I was basing this on the talk given by Jacob Kaplin-Moss(one of the developers). He gave a great talk but became a bit evasive when he was questioned about Django scaling down to a single developer, specifically when he was questioned about the template views portion. "IT SEEMED" I am not qualified to give advice on Django, sorry if I ticked off anyone! Anyone here using CherryPy? Did anyone consider it and then pass on it? -Patrick Kent Johnson wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. Why do you say that? Django works fine with a single developer. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM, ammar azif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides > alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework > automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I'm surprised to hear this. Django generates a few very simple files when you start a project but other than that it is your code. I guess there is a lot that goes on under the hood in the models but I always felt like the major parts of the app were clearly exposed. Anyway I have heard good things about web.py too, you should stick with what works for you. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit > sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. Why do you say that? Django works fine with a single developer. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py
ammar azif wrote: ... share their thoughts on these matters, I haven't tried web.py, but my experience with Django is the opposite of yours. Of course, I came to Django after climbing the learning curve of zope, so Django felt easy to deal with in comparison. It just seemed that each time I encountered a behavior that I wanted to change I could quickly locate the source, make the changes, and continue moving forward. Emile ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] My experience on web.py / CherryPy
I am in the same situation as you. I was looking at Django and Turbogears. I have finally settled on CherryPy, which is also built into Turbogears. Watching this Google talk on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-WXiqrzAf8 it seemed to me that Django is well suited for a developer team but is a bit sketchy when you try to scale it down to a single developer. CherryPy seems to work well as a substitute for all-in-one-page CGI scripts without the respawning issues or as a proper MVC web application server. I set up an account at Webfaction. They specialize in Python hosting and you can set up Turbogears, Django, CherryPy etc with a click of a button. I would love to keep this thread going, please feedback as you move along, I feedback too -patrick ammar azif wrote: Hi, I am writing this to tell my experience on web.py. Two weeks ago, I was looking for a python web framework that is simple, straight-forward, easy to use and powerful at the same time. Django stood out as the most popular when I googled. I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I know that django is powerful, but the learning curve is too steep for me and I need to develop my app as soon as possible. I decided to give web.py a try and I found that the framework is easy to use and it gives a lot of control to the developer when handling GET and POST request and all these can be done in a single source code and using this framework has taught me a lot of low level web application programming basics. I might be wrong as I havent try django or any other frameworks yet. Hope python gurus here can share their thoughts on these matters, ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
[Tutor] My experience on web.py
Hi, I am writing this to tell my experience on web.py. Two weeks ago, I was looking for a python web framework that is simple, straight-forward, easy to use and powerful at the same time. Django stood out as the most popular when I googled. I tried to use django but I found that the framework hides alot of things from me and files are generated by the framework automaticaly and I felt like I wasnt in control. I know that django is powerful, but the learning curve is too steep for me and I need to develop my app as soon as possible. I decided to give web.py a try and I found that the framework is easy to use and it gives a lot of control to the developer when handling GET and POST request and all these can be done in a single source code and using this framework has taught me a lot of low level web application programming basics. I might be wrong as I havent try django or any other frameworks yet. Hope python gurus here can share their thoughts on these matters, ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
