[Tutor] Remaking Vim in Python (was Python Editors)
I'd like a little advice on whether I'm being really stupid here. Having researched editors and stuff, I've not quite found what I'm looking for, though Vim comes close (except that it's extremely difficult to work out what to do with it). My instinct was to try and write a small program similar to vim, but in Python. The very basics should be quite easy. If I start a system that is very easily expandable then as and when I need further functionality I can add it in. html colourisation and auto-completion should be easy enough to add using a html parser, but what about python? Is there a python module that can parse python code and is reasonably easy to use? Also, css? I know it would be ambitious to try and do this, but is it stupidly ambitious? Ed ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Remaking Vim in Python (was Python Editors)
Ed Singleton wrote: I'd like a little advice on whether I'm being really stupid here. Having researched editors and stuff, I've not quite found what I'm looking for, though Vim comes close (except that it's extremely difficult to work out what to do with it). My instinct was to try and write a small program similar to vim, but in Python. The very basics should be quite easy. If I start a system that is very easily expandable then as and when I need further functionality I can add it in. I know it would be ambitious to try and do this, but is it stupidly ambitious? You might consider starting from one of the existing editors written in Python, e.g. IDLE, eric3, spe, DrPython, scite and modifying it to suit. Writing an editor is a big project. OTOH most of these editors probably started out with some developer scratching an itch. So I'm not sure I would call it stupidly ambitious... Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Remaking Vim in Python (was Python Editors)
Ed, Before you dive into a full-fledged editor development project you might want to consider an existing extendible platform like Eclipse. It is much more than just an editor, i.e. it is an advanced IDE platform. The sweet thing is that it allows for developing plugins to add functionality. I have not tried it, but someone already developed a vi input mode plugin for it. Cheers, Marcin - Original Message - From: Kent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tutor@python.org Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Tutor] Remaking Vim in Python (was Python Editors) Ed Singleton wrote: I'd like a little advice on whether I'm being really stupid here. Having researched editors and stuff, I've not quite found what I'm looking for, though Vim comes close (except that it's extremely difficult to work out what to do with it). My instinct was to try and write a small program similar to vim, but in Python. The very basics should be quite easy. If I start a system that is very easily expandable then as and when I need further functionality I can add it in. I know it would be ambitious to try and do this, but is it stupidly ambitious? You might consider starting from one of the existing editors written in Python, e.g. IDLE, eric3, spe, DrPython, scite and modifying it to suit. Writing an editor is a big project. OTOH most of these editors probably started out with some developer scratching an itch. So I'm not sure I would call it stupidly ambitious... Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Remaking Vim in Python (was Python Editors)
Ed Singleton wrote: My instinct was to try and write a small program similar to vim, but in Python. The very basics should be quite easy. If I start a system that is very easily expandable then as and when I need further functionality I can add it in. I'd say it's better to either adapt an existing editor or write a new editor from scratch, but using an existing editor component. Under wxPython you could use the Scintilla control. This approach is much less time consuming than writing your own text editor control which will most likely end up either being less powerful than what you'd get for free if building on existing functionality. Text editors are more fiddly than you might expect, because they offer a lot of functionality people don't even notice is there until they come across one which lacks it. E.g. I avoid IDLE and Leo simply because I don't like their editing components. You might even be interested in customizing Vim itself. I don't know what your goals are, but you could e.g. look at Cream (http://cream.sf.net) for a more user-friendly Vim. I know it would be ambitious to try and do this, but is it stupidly ambitious? It's not stupidly ambitious, but odds are (simply based on the amount of editors out there and the features they have) that you'll end up with not much more than a slightly fancy notepad. This can of course still be a useful learning exercise, but if you want to have an editor in which to be productive, it's probably better to invest some time in learning to use one of the existing options. Whether it's Spe, Scite, Komodo, Vim, Emacs or whatever else suits you, is not very relevant. -- Yours, Andrei = Mail address in header catches spam. Real contact info (decode with rot13): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fcnz-serr! Cyrnfr qb abg hfr va choyvp cbfgf. V ernq gur yvfg, fb gurer'f ab arrq gb PP. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
