[Tutor] how I overcame the problem I cannot run Python programs
I realized that my computer was running the programs. The black box was flashing off and disappearing immediately, so that I never saw the programs. Also, I am using Notepad++, in addition to IDLE. I am now able to see my programs and provide user input, when I use Notepad++. Also, I still have not fully overcome, I am slowly on my way to success. I am working vigorously on Python, but only 10% of my time is learning Python. The rest of my time is learning everything related to Python, to get my programs to work. I greatly appreciate everyone's help! I cannot thank each of you enough. Thanks for being there when I need someone! Have a wonderful day! ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] how I overcame the problem I cannot run Python programs
That's the nature of things I'm afraid. I do about half of my development on windows. My recomendation, download eclipse and install pydev. IDE choice is always a touchy subject but for windows, this should be your choice. I have notepad++ as well. Its great. But eclipse is better, especially for learning. I can't describe how much it helped me. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tamar Osher emeraldoff...@hotmail.com Sender: tutor-bounces+eire1130=gmail@python.org Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:12:37 To: Tutor@Python.orgtutor@python.org Subject: [Tutor] how I overcame the problem I cannot run Python programs ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] how I overcame the problem I cannot run Python programs
On 15/03/2012 22:30, eire1...@gmail.com wrote: That's the nature of things I'm afraid. I do about half of my development on windows. My recomendation, download eclipse and install pydev. IDE choice is always a touchy subject but for windows, this should be your choice. I have notepad++ as well. Its great. But eclipse is better, especially for learning. I can't describe how much it helped me. I believe that eclipse is crap. I tried it 10 years ago and gave up because it was so slow. I tried it a couple of months ago for two weeks and again gave up for the same reasons. Why not stick with pythonwin, it's perfectly adequate for my needs? -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence. ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] how I overcame the problem I cannot run Python programs
On 16/03/12 00:29, Mark Lawrence wrote: I have notepad++ as well. Its great. But eclipse is better, especially for learning. I can't describe how much it helped me. I believe that eclipse is crap. No, it's not crap, it's one of the most powerful and extensible development tools available and used by thousands (millions?) of professional programmers worldwide. But... I tried it 10 years ago and gave up because it was so slow. It's written in Java and 10 years ago few PCs had the horsepower to run Java well, and the Java compilers/VM were less efficient too. I tried it a couple of months ago for two weeks and again gave up for the same reasons. Unless you are still using the same 10 year old PC it shouldn't have been that bad! I certainly don't find it any slower than most large apps these days. Why not stick with pythonwin, it's perfectly adequate for my needs? For a beginner to python I tend to agree with you. Not because Eclipse is slow but because it's way over powered for the simple programs beginners write. If you want to develop a large application with dozens/hundreds of files and packages on Windows then Eclipse (or Netbeans etc) is a useful tool to have. And if you need to develop code in many different languages again, Eclipse will provide consistency. And if you need to build design models in UML you get a choice of top-end tools. But, for single-file programs Pythonwin and even IDLE are perfectly adequate. -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
