Re: [Tutor] Leaving PHP for Python
Welcome! I suggest you take a look at django [1]. You'll find that it has documentation [2] and an active developer community [3]. Of course, for your questions about learning python, you've already found a very helpful community : ) Take care, Don [1] http://www.djangoproject.com/ [2] http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ [3] http://www.djangoproject.com/community/ On 11/25/08, Jason DeBord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, This is my first message on the mailing list. I am excited to get started developing content / backend for the web with Python. I have a background in PHP, but am convinced that Python is a better, more powerful language. I am on a Windows XP machine and I have been using XAMPP for server, php, mysql... I installed Python 2.5 and mod_python successfully. I can serve pages with .py extension to http://localhost . The following for example: from mod_python import apache def handler(req): req.write(Hello World!) return apache.OK Frankly, I don't understand what is going on in the above. This is a bit different compared to what I am used to. So, my question, would you all please point me to some introductory resources, tutorials, books, that focus on Python programming for the web? I am eventually going to interface with some web services, notably Amazon Web Services. Also, I'd like to write some server side scripts to serve as a backend to some Adobe AIR apps. Any and all advice is extremely appreciated. Thanks for your time! Sincerely, Jason ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Leaving PHP for Python
Jason DeBord wrote: Hello All, This is my first message on the mailing list. I am excited to get started developing content / backend for the web with Python. I have a background in PHP, but am convinced that Python is a better, more powerful language. I am on a Windows XP machine and I have been using XAMPP for server, php, mysql... I installed Python 2.5 and mod_python successfully. I can serve pages with .py extension to http://localhost . The following for example: from mod_python import apache def handler(req): req.write(Hello World!) return apache.OK Frankly, I don't understand what is going on in the above. Exactly what don't you understand. Or ... what DO you understand. There is a lot to explain here. Narrowing it down will make it easier. -- Bob Gailer Chapel Hill NC 919-636-4239 ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Leaving PHP for Python
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Jason DeBord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following for example: from mod_python import apache def handler(req): req.write(Hello World!) return apache.OK Frankly, I don't understand what is going on in the above. This is a bit different compared to what I am used to. So, my question, would you all please point me to some introductory resources, tutorials, books, that focus on Python programming for the web? You might start with some general Python tutorials. Try one of these lists, depending on your background: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/Programmers Presumably you have found the mod_python docs? It has a tutorial also: http://www.modpython.org/live/current/doc-html/ You don't say why you chose mod_python...you should know that writing directly to mod_python is not the most popular method of writing Python web apps. It is fine for something simple but for complex apps you might want to look at one of the Python web frameworks such as Django, TurboGears or web.py. Kent ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Leaving PHP for Python
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Jason DeBord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following for example: from mod_python import apache def handler(req): req.write(Hello World!) return apache.OK Frankly, I don't understand what is going on in the above. This is a bit different compared to what I am used to. I don't know if you did much OOP (Object Oriented Programming) in PHP, or anything else, but that's what python does, and does well. There are some tutorials out there that explain what objects really are... but I read somewhere that in python /everything/ is an object, and that's pretty much true to my experience. The line starting with from is similar to an include statement in php. Though what you're doing is including apache that happens to be inside the mod_python library. The next line: def means you're defining a function (or method, if it's in a class, where it would be def handler(self, req), but that's another story) handler is the name you're calling the function and req is the name of your argument. At this point, it really doesn't matter what req is... it's just a name that will point to (or become a copy of) whatever you pass to it. In this case, you're passing it a class that has the method write. Consider this example(I'm using the IPython active interpreter, so you see In instead of ): In [15]: class foo: : def write(self, mystr): : print mystr : : In [17]: def handler(req): : req.write(Hello World!) : : In [18]: x = foo() In [19]: handler(x) Hello World! And then return apache.OK is returning... well, the object OK in the apache class. Of course, I've never used mod_python/apache, that's just me applying what I know about python, so I may not be 100% accurate, but I don't think I'm too far off. So, my question, would you all please point me to some introductory resources, tutorials, books, that focus on Python programming for the web? I am eventually going to interface with some web services, notably Amazon Web Services. Also, I'd like to write some server side scripts to serve as a backend to some Adobe AIR apps. If you plan on doing much command line/admin type stuff, I'd recommend Python for Unix and Linux System Adminstration by Noah Gift Jeremy M. Jones, available through O'Reilly, at least as one resource (ISBN: 978-0-596-51582-9) Noah spoke at our un-conference in October, and I learned a lot, hence, my recommendation. It does a great job of throwing you into a lot of various administration tasks, which instruction can be applied to (and is also useful for) many other tasks. Definitely check out the links others have provided, they'll be packed full of helpful information, and I hope this helped as well. -Wayne ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
Re: [Tutor] Leaving PHP for Python
You might also want to look at Pylons...its another excellent web framework built for Python. The community around it, I feel, is better than Django. People are pretty willing to answer any and all questions you have. It gives more control to the developer as oppiosed to Django. I just switched from Django to Pylons...so far it fits me better. Not for everyone...ya know... On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:43 AM, Jason DeBord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, This is my first message on the mailing list. I am excited to get started developing content / backend for the web with Python. I have a background in PHP, but am convinced that Python is a better, more powerful language. I am on a Windows XP machine and I have been using XAMPP for server, php, mysql... I installed Python 2.5 and mod_python successfully. I can serve pages with .py extension to http://localhost . The following for example: from mod_python import apache def handler(req): req.write(Hello World!) return apache.OK Frankly, I don't understand what is going on in the above. This is a bit different compared to what I am used to. So, my question, would you all please point me to some introductory resources, tutorials, books, that focus on Python programming for the web? I am eventually going to interface with some web services, notably Amazon Web Services. Also, I'd like to write some server side scripts to serve as a backend to some Adobe AIR apps. Any and all advice is extremely appreciated. Thanks for your time! Sincerely, Jason ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor -- Spencer Parker ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
