[TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread Brad Beam
After spending a year in Outer Time-Slot Mongolia (11pm-ish), Olbermann
will be moving to the 5p ET hour on the Deuce, pairing up with Outside The
Lines starting September 8. (He'll also make occasional hosting appearances
on The Big Show, v.1.)
http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/keith-olbermanns-show-moves-to-afternoons-wi
ll-return-to-anchor-sportscenter.html
 
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Doctor falls from previous openers in homeland

2014-08-27 Thread Steve Williams


 Only 6.8 million folks tuned in to Peter Capaldi's debut, far from the 
 9.9M that welcomed Eccleston or the 7.7M that saw Matt Smith... the 
 Variety 
 http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/doctor-who-season-opener-starring-peter-capaldi-grabs-33-share-in-u-k-1201289236/
  
 (link) writer noted it's a holiday weekend in the UK, not a good thing for 
 anyone's ratings...


This is overstating things a bit, to be honest. It's been referred to here 
as lowest rated Doctor debut since 2005 but there are mitigating 
circumstances for that. Eccleston's was the first episode for a decade and 
Tennant was on Christmas Day where everything gets enormous audiences. I 
noticed one article the other day using the figure for Tennant's final 
episode as Smith's debut, which is a bit off.

The only fair comparison is with Smith's debut in April 2010, but that was 
before iPlayer and catch-up viewing ballooned to massive levels, some 
episodes of Doctor Who in the last few years have increased their ratings 
by nearly two million when they're all included.

Yes, it was a holiday weekend - but the weather was awful in most places. 
One other mitigating factor was that the episode started at 7.50 and ran 
until after nine o'clock. That's the latest Doctor Who has ever been shown 
in the modern era (the TV Movie in 1996 ran to 10pm, but that's it) and I'm 
sure that must have had some impact because it's got an enormous child 
audience and there must have been more recording than usual.

The good news from Who's perspective is that it was the highest rated show 
of the night by absolutely miles and one of the highest rated of the week 
and the demographics would have been absolutely fabulous. No chance of it 
being in any kind of danger of the axe. And it was brilliant as well, of 
course. Even my dad managed to last five minutes before falling asleep, 
which is praise indeed by his standards.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Doctor falls from previous openers in homeland

2014-08-27 Thread Adam Bowie
Just having a quick look at the numbers, it looks like we can expect the
Live+7 consolidated figure to jump by as much as 50% based on recent
figures. I don't believe those figures will be out until the middle of next
week though.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Williams 
skillage%ntlworld@gtempaccount.com wrote:


 Only 6.8 million folks tuned in to Peter Capaldi's debut, far from the
 9.9M that welcomed Eccleston or the 7.7M that saw Matt Smith... the
 Variety
 http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/doctor-who-season-opener-starring-peter-capaldi-grabs-33-share-in-u-k-1201289236/
 (link) writer noted it's a holiday weekend in the UK, not a good thing for
 anyone's ratings...


 This is overstating things a bit, to be honest. It's been referred to here
 as lowest rated Doctor debut since 2005 but there are mitigating
 circumstances for that. Eccleston's was the first episode for a decade and
 Tennant was on Christmas Day where everything gets enormous audiences. I
 noticed one article the other day using the figure for Tennant's final
 episode as Smith's debut, which is a bit off.

 The only fair comparison is with Smith's debut in April 2010, but that was
 before iPlayer and catch-up viewing ballooned to massive levels, some
 episodes of Doctor Who in the last few years have increased their ratings
 by nearly two million when they're all included.

 Yes, it was a holiday weekend - but the weather was awful in most places.
 One other mitigating factor was that the episode started at 7.50 and ran
 until after nine o'clock. That's the latest Doctor Who has ever been shown
 in the modern era (the TV Movie in 1996 ran to 10pm, but that's it) and I'm
 sure that must have had some impact because it's got an enormous child
 audience and there must have been more recording than usual.

 The good news from Who's perspective is that it was the highest rated show
 of the night by absolutely miles and one of the highest rated of the week
 and the demographics would have been absolutely fabulous. No chance of it
 being in any kind of danger of the axe. And it was brilliant as well, of
 course. Even my dad managed to last five minutes before falling asleep,
 which is praise indeed by his standards.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread Joe Hass
First, bonus points for Keith channeling Warner Wolf.

Second, the day KO shows up on The Big Show, I will fight hell and high
water to watch that open.

Third, I really thought the world had more time than a week and a half,
but, hey: what are you gonna do?




On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 After spending a year in Outer Time-Slot Mongolia (11pm-ish), “Olbermann”
 will be moving to the 5p ET hour on the Deuce, pairing up with “Outside The
 Lines” starting September 8. (He’ll also make occasional hosting
 appearances on The Big Show, v.1.)


 http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/keith-olbermanns-show-moves-to-afternoons-will-return-to-anchor-sportscenter.html



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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Doctor falls from previous openers in homeland

2014-08-27 Thread Steve Timko
I caught the Dr. Who debut in a movie theater and it was an interesting
experience.
As I was walking up to the theater, a pre-teen boy wearing a fez and a
t-shirt that said Bow Ties Are Cool got out of an SUV. A quite attractive
late teen female, also in a fez and wearing the same t-shirt approached,
and said thank you Mrs. Such-and-Such and took the boy by the hand and
led him into the theater. I saw other fez hats and bow ties. Even a couple
of electronic screw drivers. A few seemed to be dressed like Tennant.
The movie had a intro by Strax as he reviews the different doctors. The few
clue this wasn't an ordinary movie event came when they got to Tom Baker
and the crowd cheered loudly. They were silent again until they got to
Eccleston and the crowd cheered again, and cheered even louder for Tennant.
Smith also got a loud cheer. Based on reaction it would be difficult to
gauge if the crowd liked Tennant or Smith better. My favorite, Eccleston,
was clearly third.
It was fun watching the movie with so many Dr. Who nerds. The enthusiasm
was contagious. One problem is that the crowd laughed so hard and so long
that they covered some of the dialogue.
I grew tired of Smith and this was the first time I've thought the change
in doctors was an improvement. I like the tone they're setting with
Capaldi. I particularly enjoyed the scene where the audience is closely
scrutinizing Capaldi's face for a clue to what had just happened off camera
and Capaldi turns and looks at the camera with a dark, angry stare.

*MINOR SPOILER**

It's clear that in trying to get Clara to accept the new doctor that they
are really trying to get the audience to accept a new doctor after two
progressively younger ones. I hope it succeeds.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 Just having a quick look at the numbers, it looks like we can expect the
 Live+7 consolidated figure to jump by as much as 50% based on recent
 figures. I don't believe those figures will be out until the middle of next
 week though.


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Williams 
 skillage%ntlworld@gtempaccount.com wrote:


 Only 6.8 million folks tuned in to Peter Capaldi's debut, far from the
 9.9M that welcomed Eccleston or the 7.7M that saw Matt Smith... the
 Variety
 http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/doctor-who-season-opener-starring-peter-capaldi-grabs-33-share-in-u-k-1201289236/
 (link) writer noted it's a holiday weekend in the UK, not a good thing for
 anyone's ratings...


 This is overstating things a bit, to be honest. It's been referred to
 here as lowest rated Doctor debut since 2005 but there are mitigating
 circumstances for that. Eccleston's was the first episode for a decade and
 Tennant was on Christmas Day where everything gets enormous audiences. I
 noticed one article the other day using the figure for Tennant's final
 episode as Smith's debut, which is a bit off.

 The only fair comparison is with Smith's debut in April 2010, but that
 was before iPlayer and catch-up viewing ballooned to massive levels, some
 episodes of Doctor Who in the last few years have increased their ratings
 by nearly two million when they're all included.

 Yes, it was a holiday weekend - but the weather was awful in most places.
 One other mitigating factor was that the episode started at 7.50 and ran
 until after nine o'clock. That's the latest Doctor Who has ever been shown
 in the modern era (the TV Movie in 1996 ran to 10pm, but that's it) and I'm
 sure that must have had some impact because it's got an enormous child
 audience and there must have been more recording than usual.

 The good news from Who's perspective is that it was the highest rated
 show of the night by absolutely miles and one of the highest rated of the
 week and the demographics would have been absolutely fabulous. No chance of
 it being in any kind of danger of the axe. And it was brilliant as well, of
 course. Even my dad managed to last five minutes before falling asleep,
 which is praise indeed by his standards.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread PGage
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:

 After spending a year in Outer Time-Slot Mongolia (11pm-ish), “Olbermann”
 will be moving to the 5p ET hour on the Deuce, pairing up with “Outside The
 Lines” starting September 8. (He’ll also make occasional hosting
 appearances on The Big Show, v.1.)


 http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/keith-olbermanns-show-moves-to-afternoons-will-return-to-anchor-sportscenter.html


At first I thought the lead was being buried here, which is that the length
of KO's show is being cut by 50%. But I guess most of what is being cut
will be highlights, since at 2:00 pm (PT) there will not be much to report
most days. That makes pairing him with OTL logical, and Olbermann will
mostly be the topical opinion stuff, not the daily sports news wrap-up
stuff. I can live with that, though I do like to hear Keith recap the daily
MLB events. It will also make it easier for me to record during the day
(even on the east coast do many people get home from work in time to watch
television live at 5:00?) and watch maybe after my Stewart/Colbert hour,
which would make a nice fit.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread M-D November
Yes, but doesn't this also mean the death of Bob Slurm?

On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:06:10 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net 
 javascript: wrote:

 After spending a year in Outer Time-Slot Mongolia (11pm-ish), “Olbermann” 
 will be moving to the 5p ET hour on the Deuce, pairing up with “Outside The 
 Lines” starting September 8. (He’ll also make occasional hosting 
 appearances on The Big Show, v.1.)


 http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/keith-olbermanns-show-moves-to-afternoons-will-return-to-anchor-sportscenter.html


 At first I thought the lead was being buried here, which is that the 
 length of KO's show is being cut by 50%. But I guess most of what is being 
 cut will be highlights, since at 2:00 pm (PT) there will not be much to 
 report most days. That makes pairing him with OTL logical, and Olbermann 
 will mostly be the topical opinion stuff, not the daily sports news wrap-up 
 stuff. I can live with that, though I do like to hear Keith recap the daily 
 MLB events. It will also make it easier for me to record during the day 
 (even on the east coast do many people get home from work in time to watch 
 television live at 5:00?) and watch maybe after my Stewart/Colbert hour, 
 which would make a nice fit.
  

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Good DVD News, Everybody!

2014-08-27 Thread K.M. Richards
Sold out, but perhaps that's just as well; from what I read in Amazon's 
feedback, the inner sleeves are made of cardboard and have caused issues 
with DVDs warping.

Maybe that's why they were on sale.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:37:33 PM UTC-7, David Bruggeman wrote:

 Apparently Walmart has a full series box set for Futurama on the cheap.  I 
 don't know if it's already fully sold out (it is online), but I'd act 
 quickly.


 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Futurama-The-Complete-Series-With-2014-3014-Calendar/29679088?wmlspartner=TnL5HPStwNwsourceid=11740796092816877782oid=183959.1u1=skim0X911651Xf6f591ad680d67d72028451700e34885affillinktype=10veh=aff

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread 'Greg Diener' via TVorNotTV


On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:50:10 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:

 Yes, but doesn't this also mean the death of Bob Slurm?



Dear god don't get me started on that crap.

Greg 

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Keith in the afternoon

2014-08-27 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
The half-hour format *might* give the show a bit of discipline to shorten some 
of KO's longer, non-comment bits (Tony Bruno, Hello!).  I won't hold my breath 
for having them eliminated.

David




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On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 1:50:10 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:
Yes, but doesn't this also mean the death of Bob Slurm?




Dear god don't get me started on that crap.

Greg 

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[TV orNotTV] Cops Crew Member Shot in Omaha

2014-08-27 Thread Ben Scripps
Sound man Bryce Dion was killed during a shootout Tuesday night between
police and an armed robbery suspect at a fast food restaurant.  The AP
says Dion was killed by police gunfire.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/27/cops-employee-shot/14669517/


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Doctor falls from previous openers in homeland

2014-08-27 Thread Kevin M.
Am I misremembering or did this doctor only commit to a single season? If
that's the case, I wouldn't bother getting too attached to him either.


On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Steve Timko steveti...@gmail.com wrote:


 I caught the Dr. Who debut in a movie theater and it was an interesting
 experience.
 As I was walking up to the theater, a pre-teen boy wearing a fez and a
 t-shirt that said Bow Ties Are Cool got out of an SUV. A quite attractive
 late teen female, also in a fez and wearing the same t-shirt approached,
 and said thank you Mrs. Such-and-Such and took the boy by the hand and
 led him into the theater. I saw other fez hats and bow ties. Even a couple
 of electronic screw drivers. A few seemed to be dressed like Tennant.
 The movie had a intro by Strax as he reviews the different doctors. The
 few clue this wasn't an ordinary movie event came when they got to Tom
 Baker and the crowd cheered loudly. They were silent again until they got
 to Eccleston and the crowd cheered again, and cheered even louder for
 Tennant. Smith also got a loud cheer. Based on reaction it would be
 difficult to gauge if the crowd liked Tennant or Smith better. My favorite,
 Eccleston, was clearly third.
 It was fun watching the movie with so many Dr. Who nerds. The enthusiasm
 was contagious. One problem is that the crowd laughed so hard and so long
 that they covered some of the dialogue.
 I grew tired of Smith and this was the first time I've thought the change
 in doctors was an improvement. I like the tone they're setting with
 Capaldi. I particularly enjoyed the scene where the audience is closely
 scrutinizing Capaldi's face for a clue to what had just happened off camera
 and Capaldi turns and looks at the camera with a dark, angry stare.

 *MINOR SPOILER**

 It's clear that in trying to get Clara to accept the new doctor that they
 are really trying to get the audience to accept a new doctor after two
 progressively younger ones. I hope it succeeds.


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Adam Bowie a...@adambowie.co.uk wrote:

 Just having a quick look at the numbers, it looks like we can expect the
 Live+7 consolidated figure to jump by as much as 50% based on recent
 figures. I don't believe those figures will be out until the middle of next
 week though.


 On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Steve Williams 
 skillage%ntlworld@gtempaccount.com wrote:


 Only 6.8 million folks tuned in to Peter Capaldi's debut, far from the
 9.9M that welcomed Eccleston or the 7.7M that saw Matt Smith... the
 Variety
 http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/doctor-who-season-opener-starring-peter-capaldi-grabs-33-share-in-u-k-1201289236/
 (link) writer noted it's a holiday weekend in the UK, not a good thing for
 anyone's ratings...


 This is overstating things a bit, to be honest. It's been referred to
 here as lowest rated Doctor debut since 2005 but there are mitigating
 circumstances for that. Eccleston's was the first episode for a decade and
 Tennant was on Christmas Day where everything gets enormous audiences. I
 noticed one article the other day using the figure for Tennant's final
 episode as Smith's debut, which is a bit off.

 The only fair comparison is with Smith's debut in April 2010, but that
 was before iPlayer and catch-up viewing ballooned to massive levels, some
 episodes of Doctor Who in the last few years have increased their ratings
 by nearly two million when they're all included.

 Yes, it was a holiday weekend - but the weather was awful in most
 places. One other mitigating factor was that the episode started at 7.50
 and ran until after nine o'clock. That's the latest Doctor Who has ever
 been shown in the modern era (the TV Movie in 1996 ran to 10pm, but that's
 it) and I'm sure that must have had some impact because it's got an
 enormous child audience and there must have been more recording than usual.

 The good news from Who's perspective is that it was the highest rated
 show of the night by absolutely miles and one of the highest rated of the
 week and the demographics would have been absolutely fabulous. No chance of
 it being in any kind of danger of the axe. And it was brilliant as well, of
 course. Even my dad managed to last five minutes before falling asleep,
 which is praise indeed by his standards.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Doctor falls from previous openers in homeland

2014-08-27 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
Capaldi only recently extended his contract for a second series/season

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2719799/Peter-Capaldi-star-second-series-Doctor-Who-extending-contract.html

David




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Am I misremembering or did this doctor only commit to a single season? If 
that's the case, I wouldn't bother getting too attached to him either. 

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Robin Williams Emmy Memorial

2014-08-27 Thread JW
 ... and watched the Giants game (another kind of disaster)

I was at that game, and since I didn't have a strong rooting interest found
it enjoyable. I had a great angle on Morneau running and Peavy's subsequent
balk, which still makes me laugh.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Robin Williams Emmy Memorial

2014-08-27 Thread PGage
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:16 PM, JW redbu...@gmail.com wrote:

  ... and watched the Giants game (another kind of disaster)

 I was at that game, and since I didn't have a strong rooting interest
 found it enjoyable. I had a great angle on Morneau running and Peavy's
 subsequent balk, which still makes me laugh.


I did have a strong rooting interest, and even I laughed at that balk. One
can watch a hell of a lot of baseball games and not see a major league
pitcher do something like that.

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[TV orNotTV] David Chase is pissed

2014-08-27 Thread Bob Jersey

As well he should be, after a good friend of his, critic and writer Martha 
Nochimson, *had* to know what happened at the end of *The Sopranos*, so 
Chase told her *something*, which she reported at Vox 
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6006139/did-tony-die-at-the-end-of-the-sopranos 
(link)... his rep Leslee Dart repeated the long-held position to TheWrap 
http://www.thewrap.com/sopranos-creator-david-chases-rep-blasts-report-claiming-tony-sopranos-still-alive/?utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=contactology
 
(link) that there is no answer...

B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] David Chase is pissed

2014-08-27 Thread PGage
n Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:22 PM, Bob Jersey bob.in.jer...@juno.com wrote:


 As well he should be, after a good friend of his, critic and writer Martha
 Nochimson, *had* to know what happened at the end of *The Sopranos*, so
 Chase told her *something*, which she reported at Vox
 http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6006139/did-tony-die-at-the-end-of-the-sopranos
 (link)... his rep Leslee Dart repeated the long-held position to TheWrap
 http://www.thewrap.com/sopranos-creator-david-chases-rep-blasts-report-claiming-tony-sopranos-still-alive/?utm_source=newsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=contactology
 (link) that there is no answer...


I read the Nochimson piece earlier today, and was curious about this. Just
before she gives Chase's answer in the text, she writes:

On occasion he [Chase] breaks his reserve, but makes it clear that I am
not to write about anything he says that is an interpretation of his own
work, since he believes that the art of entertaining is leaving the
audience imagination to run wild. So when he answered the is Tony dead
question, he was laconic.

On first reading, I assumed this meant that Chase had given her permission
to just write the one word answer to the question. But when I went back and
read it a couple of more times, it seemed that Chase never did give her
that permission, and indeed was pretty clear that the answer to that
question was off the record. She does not address this question in the rest
of the article. I don't blame him for being pissed.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Robin Williams Emmy Memorial

2014-08-27 Thread Bob Jersey

PGage, to JW:


  ... and watched the Giants game (another kind of disaster)

 I was at that game, and since I didn't have a strong rooting interest 
 found it enjoyable. I had a great angle on Morneau running and Peavy's 
 subsequent balk, which still makes me laugh.


 I did have a strong rooting interest, and even I laughed at that balk. One 
 can watch a hell of a lot of baseball games and not see a major league 
 pitcher do something like that. 


The IronPigs - booted from any postseason chance last week - honored two 
players Tuesday with season awards 
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140826content_id=91624040fext=.jspvkey=news_t1410sid=t1410
 
(link)... Franco (happened to also be his 22nd birthday) went on to hit a 
grand slam in that night's game with league-leading Syracuse, and pitcher 
Garcia stopped the Chiefs at the end after they closed the lead to 1...

B

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