Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Monsieur Spade

[Dave Sikula]

 I'll agree that Woodard had a lot of heavy lifting to do, but she did it well. 
(In my mind, Owen's smirk during that scene was as much about his relief at not 
having to do it as it was Spade's amusement at the whole situation.) That is 
something at odds with Hammett, though; his plots are pretty straightforward 
and don't require a lot of cleaning up at the end. (Chandler was the 
complicated one; to the point of famously not knowing who killed the 
Sternwood's butler in "The Big Sleep.") He was more interested in psychology 
than in unraveling international conspiracies.
I'd love to see a second season, too, but expect it'll turn up about the same 
time as Perry Mason 3.
--Dave Sikula

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 10:16:15 PM PST, Kevin M. 
 wrote:  
 
 Just finished the season finale. Alfre Woodard should have her name legally 
changed to deus ex machina, but overall a thoroughly enjoyable series. I don’t 
hold out much hope for a second season, but I’ll be pleased if it happens. 

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 7:50 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

At least his accent is passable. Some of them make me convinced the British 
still hold a grudge against Dick Van Dyke for his accent in Mary Poppins. 
I like that for Spade’s wardrobe, they seem to have taken a cue from what 
Bogart wore in his later years. Makes sense, considering he wore his own 
clothes in most of his movies. 
True Detective seemed to confuse noir with slow and pedantic. 

Kevin M. (RPCV)

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:30 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV 
 wrote:

As always, I question yet another British actor playing yet another American 
for no good reason, but there was enough here to bring me back.
On the other hand, I found so much to dislike in the reincarnation of "True 
Detective" that I won't be back. Too many unpleasant characters, amateurish 
acting (I'm lookin' at you, Kali Reis), the horror-movie tropes, and an overall 
feel of trying too hard were all turnoffs.
--Dave Sikula

On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:50:11 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:

I like noir. This is not quite noir, but it’s close. If I was watching it on 
AMC instead of iTunes I’d be frustrated by commercial breaks seemingly every 
two minutes, often in the middle of scenes. Aside from that, it’s worth taking 
a look at. 

Kevin M. (RPCV)


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Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Monsieur Spade

[Kevin M.]

Just finished the season finale. Alfre Woodard should have her name legally
changed to deus ex machina, but overall a thoroughly enjoyable series. I
don’t hold out much hope for a second season, but I’ll be pleased if it
happens.

Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 7:50 AM Kevin M.  wrote:

> At least his accent is passable. Some of them make me convinced the
> British still hold a grudge against Dick Van Dyke for his accent in Mary
> Poppins.
>
> I like that for Spade’s wardrobe, they seem to have taken a cue from what
> Bogart wore in his later years. Makes sense, considering he wore his own
> clothes in most of his movies.
>
> True Detective seemed to confuse noir with slow and pedantic.
>
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 1:30 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> As always, I question yet another British actor playing yet another
>> American for no good reason, but there was enough here to bring me back.
>>
>> On the other hand, I found so much to dislike in the reincarnation of
>> "True Detective" that I won't be back. Too many unpleasant characters,
>> amateurish acting (I'm lookin' at you, Kali Reis), the horror-movie tropes,
>> and an overall feel of trying too hard were all turnoffs.
>>
>> --Dave Sikula
>>
>> On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:50:11 PM UTC-8 Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>>> I like noir. This is not quite noir, but it’s close. If I was watching
>>> it on AMC instead of iTunes I’d be frustrated by commercial breaks
>>> seemingly every two minutes, often in the middle of scenes. Aside from
>>> that, it’s worth taking a look at.
>>>
>>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] The Dukes of Hazzard was racist…

[Kevin M.]

This will really tick him off. Beyoncé debuted at #1 on the Country chart.
Yee haw!

https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/beyonce-texas-hold-em-number-1-hot-country-songs-chart-1235610582/


Kevin M. (RPCV)


On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 6:24 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:

> Do we really believe John Schneider says anything worth paying attention
> to? The people who need to jump on this are the country music companies.
> The US is currently 41% non-white and the only demographic group that is
> overwhelmingly white is old people. If they don’t want to speak out for
> inclusivity they will have no future.
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 12:20 AM Kevin M. 
> wrote:
>
>> … and John Schneider is now undeniably racist, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=john%20schneider%20beyonce=nws=sh/x/gs/m2/5
>>
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: The New Look

[PGage]

I encourage to fortify your stomach and get past the first five minutes.
I’m really digging this show, even though I know little or nothing about
fashion. I have been interested in the complexities of the idea of
collaboration with the Occupier*, and that is really what this series, at
least the first three episodes, is about, though I’m sure I will learn
something about French fashion in later episodes.

*on my first trip to Paris in 2014 a I toured the Normandy sites with a
friend, and we hired a local to drive us around and narrate with added
local history. In long conversations with him he first cryptically then
more openly talked about his grandparents, who had been punished by
neighbors for collaborating with the Nazis, but from his perspective were
just trying to survive, and in their own way were able to help the cause by
slowing things up at strategic times. He turned me on to some books and
articles to read. I have relatives who died in the camps, so am not
inclined to being charitable, but he effectively pointed out it is not a
simple black and white issue.

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On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 at 8:00 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> I couldn’t stomach five minutes. The music amped up the life or death
> intensity… of a fashion show. A dramatic story doesn’t have to be
> over-dramatic to be compelling or engaging. You don’t have to inflate
> tension to make a story interesting. I remember when I watched the first
> episode of Downton Abbey, I thought to myself “Nothing happened in that
> entire episode,” followed immediately by “when is the next episode airing?”
> The New Look felt like a textbook example of trying way too hard.
>
> On the Apple
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

[PGage]

>From Julia Alexander at Puck News and Parrot Analytics:

“Discovery and HBO have strategically delayed uploading new segments from *Last
Week Tonight* to YouTube to drive more subscribers to Max. It may work—but
I have a feeling it won’t. And based on host *John Oliver*’s recent tweet
expressing consternation with the decision, he isn’t so sure, either.

Here’s the main issue: Customers who wanted both Oliver’s show *and *the
Max catalog in one package have likely already signed up for Max. But those
watching *Last Week Tonight* segments religiously on YouTube (where the
audience is younger) aren’t necessarily interested in paying for a service.
Is Oliver worth an additional $15 a month, or is it easier to just wait
three more days? My assumption is that most of the YouTube audience won’t
upgrade for one talent they can literally “wait and see.” They’d probably
rather watch only his most viral content in algorithmically recommended
clip form, anyway.”


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On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 at 1:53 AM PGage  wrote:

> As Kevin points out, the YouTube delay is far from an indication of
> turmoil with Oliver at HBO, but an attempt by HBO/Max to further monetize
> him.
>
> I am not worried about Oliver financially, first because there is zero
> chance Thomas takes the offer (not because Thomas is above taking it of
> course, but because he undoubtedly has a much better retirement deal with
> his current sponsors), second because even if he had to pay up, it is about
> 12% of Oliver’s current HBO salary, and Thomas’ life expectancy is probably
> shorter than that of Oliver’s show. I will have to ask my wife, who is a
> bookkeeper for a CPA, if this kind of thing would be a tax deductible
> business expense for Oliver as an independent contractor, assuming he made
> it a key part of his next stand up act in the event he had to pay out.
>
> Oliver was very explicit that the $1M/year would come from his personal
> accounts, but did not make the same disclaimer about the $2.5M Luxury motor
> coach. I wonder if HBO agreed to pay for part or all of that in the event (
> or if the maker agreed to donate it)?
>
> All in all: Hilarious and effective.
>
> Also, Oliver’s return was a clear, though no doubt unintentional,
> illustration of why he is so much better at political humor than Jon
> Stewart. While Oliver was also critical of Biden, his critique was not just
> hack “Biden so Old”, but aimed at his pale and weak attempts to reign in
> Netanyahu. That is a real and substantive critique (and complex enough that
> I myself do not unambiguously agree with it, though I respect it).
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas
>> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the
>> Supreme Court within a month.
>> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO
>> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer
>> is around the 31 minute mark.
>> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>>
>> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>>
>> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am
>> guessing left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off
>> the court.
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

[Mark Jeffries]

Well, officially wouldn't they have to run a "promotional
consideration furnished by" credit to the manufacturer or supplier of the
coach?

Mark Jeffries
Saints Spotlight Editor
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:12 AM Marti Lawrence 
wrote:

> I thought it was an excellent segment. I know Clarence Thomas won't take
> him up on it, but it was still very entertaining to watch.
>
> ~Marti
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 3:53:30 AM UTC-6 PGage wrote:
>
>> As Kevin points out, the YouTube delay is far from an indication of
>> turmoil with Oliver at HBO, but an attempt by HBO/Max to further monetize
>> him.
>>
>> I am not worried about Oliver financially, first because there is zero
>> chance Thomas takes the offer (not because Thomas is above taking it of
>> course, but because he undoubtedly has a much better retirement deal with
>> his current sponsors), second because even if he had to pay up, it is about
>> 12% of Oliver’s current HBO salary, and Thomas’ life expectancy is probably
>> shorter than that of Oliver’s show. I will have to ask my wife, who is a
>> bookkeeper for a CPA, if this kind of thing would be a tax deductible
>> business expense for Oliver as an independent contractor, assuming he made
>> it a key part of his next stand up act in the event he had to pay out.
>>
>> Oliver was very explicit that the $1M/year would come from his personal
>> accounts, but did not make the same disclaimer about the $2.5M Luxury motor
>> coach. I wonder if HBO agreed to pay for part or all of that in the event (
>> or if the maker agreed to donate it)?
>>
>> All in all: Hilarious and effective.
>>
>> Also, Oliver’s return was a clear, though no doubt unintentional,
>> illustration of why he is so much better at political humor than Jon
>> Stewart. While Oliver was also critical of Biden, his critique was not just
>> hack “Biden so Old”, but aimed at his pale and weak attempts to reign in
>> Netanyahu. That is a real and substantive critique (and complex enough that
>> I myself do not unambiguously agree with it, though I respect it).
>>
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>>
>>> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas
>>> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the
>>> Supreme Court within a month.
>>> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO
>>> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer
>>> is around the 31 minute mark.
>>> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>>>
>>> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>>>
>>> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am
>>> guessing left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off
>>> the court.
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

[Marti Lawrence]

I thought it was an excellent segment. I know Clarence Thomas won't take 
him up on it, but it was still very entertaining to watch. 

~Marti

On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 3:53:30 AM UTC-6 PGage wrote:

> As Kevin points out, the YouTube delay is far from an indication of 
> turmoil with Oliver at HBO, but an attempt by HBO/Max to further monetize 
> him.
>
> I am not worried about Oliver financially, first because there is zero 
> chance Thomas takes the offer (not because Thomas is above taking it of 
> course, but because he undoubtedly has a much better retirement deal with 
> his current sponsors), second because even if he had to pay up, it is about 
> 12% of Oliver’s current HBO salary, and Thomas’ life expectancy is probably 
> shorter than that of Oliver’s show. I will have to ask my wife, who is a 
> bookkeeper for a CPA, if this kind of thing would be a tax deductible 
> business expense for Oliver as an independent contractor, assuming he made 
> it a key part of his next stand up act in the event he had to pay out.
>
> Oliver was very explicit that the $1M/year would come from his personal 
> accounts, but did not make the same disclaimer about the $2.5M Luxury motor 
> coach. I wonder if HBO agreed to pay for part or all of that in the event ( 
> or if the maker agreed to donate it)?
>
> All in all: Hilarious and effective.
>
> Also, Oliver’s return was a clear, though no doubt unintentional, 
> illustration of why he is so much better at political humor than Jon 
> Stewart. While Oliver was also critical of Biden, his critique was not just 
> hack “Biden so Old”, but aimed at his pale and weak attempts to reign in 
> Netanyahu. That is a real and substantive critique (and complex enough that 
> I myself do not unambiguously agree with it, though I respect it).
>
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:
>
>> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas 
>> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the 
>> Supreme Court within a month.
>> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO 
>> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer 
>> is around the 31 minute mark.
>> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>>
>> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>>
>> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am 
>> guessing left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off 
>> the court.
>>
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[TV orNotTV] Dougie Zucker Buys Global TV Powerhouse

[Mark Jeffries]

RedBird IMI, the company owned in part by the former NBC and CNN exec Jeff 
Zucker (along with Abu Dhabian interests), has bought from Warner Bros. 
Discovery and John Malone's Liberty Global for $1.45B All3Media, the 
UK-based production house whose library ranges from "Fleabag" to "Peaky 
Blinders" to "The Traitors" to "Undercover Boss" (and Netflix's "Squid 
Game:  The Challenge") to "Call the Midwife":

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/all3media-deal-redbird-imi-warner-bros-discovery-liberty-global-1235518922/

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Re: [TV orNotTV] John Oliver offers Clarence Thomas $1 million a year to resign

[PGage]

As Kevin points out, the YouTube delay is far from an indication of turmoil
with Oliver at HBO, but an attempt by HBO/Max to further monetize him.

I am not worried about Oliver financially, first because there is zero
chance Thomas takes the offer (not because Thomas is above taking it of
course, but because he undoubtedly has a much better retirement deal with
his current sponsors), second because even if he had to pay up, it is about
12% of Oliver’s current HBO salary, and Thomas’ life expectancy is probably
shorter than that of Oliver’s show. I will have to ask my wife, who is a
bookkeeper for a CPA, if this kind of thing would be a tax deductible
business expense for Oliver as an independent contractor, assuming he made
it a key part of his next stand up act in the event he had to pay out.

Oliver was very explicit that the $1M/year would come from his personal
accounts, but did not make the same disclaimer about the $2.5M Luxury motor
coach. I wonder if HBO agreed to pay for part or all of that in the event (
or if the maker agreed to donate it)?

All in all: Hilarious and effective.

Also, Oliver’s return was a clear, though no doubt unintentional,
illustration of why he is so much better at political humor than Jon
Stewart. While Oliver was also critical of Biden, his critique was not just
hack “Biden so Old”, but aimed at his pale and weak attempts to reign in
Netanyahu. That is a real and substantive critique (and complex enough that
I myself do not unambiguously agree with it, though I respect it).

Sent from Gmail Mobile


On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 9:39 PM Steve Timko  wrote:

> John Oliver returned from hiatus with a bang. He offered Clarence Thomas
> $1 million a year and a $2.5 million motor coach if he resigned from the
> Supreme Court within a month.
> Normally, I could post a YouTube link to that part of the show. But HBO
> hasn't posted the show yet. Here's a link to a poor pirated copy. The offer
> is around the 31 minute mark.
> https://youtu.be/YceyOgpj_RE?si=c1d7MPnHBv990oui
>
> I wonder if this indicates turmoil at HBO over the show.
>
> Oliver said he is paying Thomas' salary personally, not HBO. I am guessing
> left leaning millionaires will chip in if it means Thomas is off the court.
>
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