Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-13 Thread Kevin M. 
I’ll go further than that... the news networks that ran the
propaganda/campaign video owe equal time (and prominence) to Biden. I’m
tuning in to find out how much jeopardy my loved ones are in. If Trump
wants to get in a pissing match with the media, the White House briefing
room is an inappropriate venue for it.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:44 PM PGage  wrote:

> Trump had a full on meltdown today. The chyrons is one way to deal with
> this. But really, the time has come to put him on a 30 min tape delay and
> edit the propaganda out.
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:45 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> If you watch CNN’s live coverage of today’s press briefing, pay careful
>> attention to the Chyron/words underneath Trump’s face.
>>
>> Here’s a link to a few of them
>>
>> https://twitter.com/vickypjward/status/1249827039256985603?s=21
>>
>> Sh*t just got real.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:17 AM PGage  wrote:
>>
>>> Aside from how horrific the Trump Shit Show has been, it has posed an
>>> interesting and difficult challenge for TV news. There is a good argument
>>> to be made to not take the Briefing live, and just air the relevant parts
>>> on a short delay. But what the US President says during a time of national
>>> crisis is per se news, so it is arguably irresponsible to delay it even a
>>> little.
>>>
>>>  I have been on the side of those calling on WH reporters to not ask
>>> Trump a single question, and only direct questions at the experts. I would
>>> also do what CNN and MSNBC have started doing, which is only dipping in on
>>> Trump’s live opening comments as they seem to veer into the neighborhood of
>>> being substantive.
>>>
>>> But there is no way to do this right; when you elect a film Flåm man
>>> president, this is what you get, even when tens of thousands of Americans
>>> are dying.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:16 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>

 Doug Eastick, in part, to Kevin M, Joe Hass et al, Thurs. (4/09):
>
> The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
> I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and
> they were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to
> the podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.
>
>
> NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to
 run the pressers... 
 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
 (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-13 Thread PGage 
Trump had a full on meltdown today. The chyrons is one way to deal with
this. But really, the time has come to put him on a 30 min tape delay and
edit the propaganda out.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:45 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> If you watch CNN’s live coverage of today’s press briefing, pay careful
> attention to the Chyron/words underneath Trump’s face.
>
> Here’s a link to a few of them
>
> https://twitter.com/vickypjward/status/1249827039256985603?s=21
>
> Sh*t just got real.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:17 AM PGage  wrote:
>
>> Aside from how horrific the Trump Shit Show has been, it has posed an
>> interesting and difficult challenge for TV news. There is a good argument
>> to be made to not take the Briefing live, and just air the relevant parts
>> on a short delay. But what the US President says during a time of national
>> crisis is per se news, so it is arguably irresponsible to delay it even a
>> little.
>>
>>  I have been on the side of those calling on WH reporters to not ask
>> Trump a single question, and only direct questions at the experts. I would
>> also do what CNN and MSNBC have started doing, which is only dipping in on
>> Trump’s live opening comments as they seem to veer into the neighborhood of
>> being substantive.
>>
>> But there is no way to do this right; when you elect a film Flåm man
>> president, this is what you get, even when tens of thousands of Americans
>> are dying.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:16 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Doug Eastick, in part, to Kevin M, Joe Hass et al, Thurs. (4/09):

 The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
 I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and they
 were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to the
 podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.


 NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to
>>> run the pressers... 
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
>>> (link)
>>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-13 Thread Kevin M. 
If you watch CNN’s live coverage of today’s press briefing, pay careful
attention to the Chyron/words underneath Trump’s face.

Here’s a link to a few of them

https://twitter.com/vickypjward/status/1249827039256985603?s=21

Sh*t just got real.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:17 AM PGage  wrote:

> Aside from how horrific the Trump Shit Show has been, it has posed an
> interesting and difficult challenge for TV news. There is a good argument
> to be made to not take the Briefing live, and just air the relevant parts
> on a short delay. But what the US President says during a time of national
> crisis is per se news, so it is arguably irresponsible to delay it even a
> little.
>
>  I have been on the side of those calling on WH reporters to not ask Trump
> a single question, and only direct questions at the experts. I would also
> do what CNN and MSNBC have started doing, which is only dipping in on
> Trump’s live opening comments as they seem to veer into the neighborhood of
> being substantive.
>
> But there is no way to do this right; when you elect a film Flåm man
> president, this is what you get, even when tens of thousands of Americans
> are dying.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:16 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Doug Eastick, in part, to Kevin M, Joe Hass et al, Thurs. (4/09):
>>>
>>> The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
>>> I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and they
>>> were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to the
>>> podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.
>>>
>>>
>>> NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to
>> run the pressers... 
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
>> (link)
>>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-10 Thread PGage 
Aside from how horrific the Trump Shit Show has been, it has posed an
interesting and difficult challenge for TV news. There is a good argument
to be made to not take the Briefing live, and just air the relevant parts
on a short delay. But what the US President says during a time of national
crisis is per se news, so it is arguably irresponsible to delay it even a
little.

 I have been on the side of those calling on WH reporters to not ask Trump
a single question, and only direct questions at the experts. I would also
do what CNN and MSNBC have started doing, which is only dipping in on
Trump’s live opening comments as they seem to veer into the neighborhood of
being substantive.

But there is no way to do this right; when you elect a film Flåm man
president, this is what you get, even when tens of thousands of Americans
are dying.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:16 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
> Doug Eastick, in part, to Kevin M, Joe Hass et al, Thurs. (4/09):
>>
>> The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
>> I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and they
>> were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to the
>> podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.
>>
>>
>> NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to run
> the pressers... 
> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
> (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-10 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 

Tom Wolper, today (4/10):
>
> Pence apparently changed his mind and the doctors are scheduled to be back 
> on CNN.
>
>
> https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pence-blocks-white-house-coronavirus-task-force-fauci-birx-cnn
>

Noted yesterday by Kevin 
 
(link)...  B

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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-10 Thread Tom Wolper 
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:16 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote

NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to run
the pressers...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
(link)

Pence apparently changed his mind and the doctors are scheduled to be back
on CNN.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pence-blocks-white-house-coronavirus-task-force-fauci-birx-cnn

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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-10 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 

Doug Eastick, in part, to Kevin M, Joe Hass et al, Thurs. (4/09):
>
> The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
> I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and they 
> were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to the 
> podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.
>
>
> NYT: Even his party loyalists feel DJT should leave the docs alone to run 
the pressers... 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-press-briefing.html
 
(link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-09 Thread Doug Eastick 
The whole WH behaviour is shameful IMHO.
I listened to MSNBC the past few nights around the 5-7pm hours and they
were mostly cutting in-out the whole time.  Any time a Doctor went to the
podium, they went live -- at least that's what I observed.

For some lighter Leadership news here's yesterdays COVID19 Leadership
extravaganza from Coanada.  Justin Trudeau. answering a question.  His use
of the word "moistly" appears around the 0:52 mark -- but you can watch the
whole 80 seconds to get the context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIVA6MRS3J4

Then you want to watch this remix which has gone around the country quite
quickly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eySDeBdqxGY


I've learned that there are a LOT of people that do not like the word
"MOIST"





On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 9:10 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Aaaand the White House caved under pressure... or because they had no
> authority to limit press access to anyone
>
>
> https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/media/pence-office-tv-bookings-coronavirus/index.html
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Joe Hass  wrote:
>
>> If I were to suddenly be given this level of power, here is how I would
>> cover the 2020 version of Five O'Clock Follies: record it, cut out anything
>> that isn't true or germane, air what's left as soon as is practically
>> possible, and then put the raw footage up on the web (or just point them to
>> the official WH site). Trying to cut in and out while it's happening live
>> is folly.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:37 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>>
>>> Fauci has been a regular feature on the news network, appearing in
>>> several “town hall” interviews. Trump wants his daily non-briefing
>>> televised live in its entirety; CNN tends to cut away when he starts
>>> talking sh*t. The story claims CNN cuts away when the doctors speak, but
>>> that has not been my experience. It is usually during Blitzer’s “Situation
>>> Room”, and they seem to not show Trump’s opening ramblings, then they cut
>>> in for the Q & A, then they cut away when Trump acts like Trump, then they
>>> cut back when Fauci or the other doctors offer updates or advice, then they
>>> cut away when Trump butts in.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-pence-bars-fauci-and-birx-from-appearing-on-cnn.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-09 Thread Kevin M. 
Aaaand the White House caved under pressure... or because they had no
authority to limit press access to anyone

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/09/media/pence-office-tv-bookings-coronavirus/index.html


On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 4:09 PM Joe Hass  wrote:

> If I were to suddenly be given this level of power, here is how I would
> cover the 2020 version of Five O'Clock Follies: record it, cut out anything
> that isn't true or germane, air what's left as soon as is practically
> possible, and then put the raw footage up on the web (or just point them to
> the official WH site). Trying to cut in and out while it's happening live
> is folly.
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:37 PM Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> Fauci has been a regular feature on the news network, appearing in
>> several “town hall” interviews. Trump wants his daily non-briefing
>> televised live in its entirety; CNN tends to cut away when he starts
>> talking sh*t. The story claims CNN cuts away when the doctors speak, but
>> that has not been my experience. It is usually during Blitzer’s “Situation
>> Room”, and they seem to not show Trump’s opening ramblings, then they cut
>> in for the Q & A, then they cut away when Trump acts like Trump, then they
>> cut back when Fauci or the other doctors offer updates or advice, then they
>> cut away when Trump butts in.
>>
>>
>> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-pence-bars-fauci-and-birx-from-appearing-on-cnn.html
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Re: [TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-09 Thread Joe Hass 
If I were to suddenly be given this level of power, here is how I would
cover the 2020 version of Five O'Clock Follies: record it, cut out anything
that isn't true or germane, air what's left as soon as is practically
possible, and then put the raw footage up on the web (or just point them to
the official WH site). Trying to cut in and out while it's happening live
is folly.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 5:37 PM Kevin M.  wrote:

> Fauci has been a regular feature on the news network, appearing in several
> “town hall” interviews. Trump wants his daily non-briefing televised live
> in its entirety; CNN tends to cut away when he starts talking sh*t. The
> story claims CNN cuts away when the doctors speak, but that has not been my
> experience. It is usually during Blitzer’s “Situation Room”, and they seem
> to not show Trump’s opening ramblings, then they cut in for the Q & A, then
> they cut away when Trump acts like Trump, then they cut back when Fauci or
> the other doctors offer updates or advice, then they cut away when Trump
> butts in.
>
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-pence-bars-fauci-and-birx-from-appearing-on-cnn.html
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[TV orNotTV] White House bans task force doctors from CNN

2020-04-09 Thread Kevin M. 
Fauci has been a regular feature on the news network, appearing in several
“town hall” interviews. Trump wants his daily non-briefing televised live
in its entirety; CNN tends to cut away when he starts talking sh*t. The
story claims CNN cuts away when the doctors speak, but that has not been my
experience. It is usually during Blitzer’s “Situation Room”, and they seem
to not show Trump’s opening ramblings, then they cut in for the Q & A, then
they cut away when Trump acts like Trump, then they cut back when Fauci or
the other doctors offer updates or advice, then they cut away when Trump
butts in.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-pence-bars-fauci-and-birx-from-appearing-on-cnn.html

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