[twitter-dev] Re: Additional attribute in share link

[Ken D.]

Looks like a 13-digit timestamp - e.g. Python millis()

On May 23, 10:09 pm, Tony House  wrote:
> I'm looking through the FAQ for the tweet button and am not seeing one
> of the attributes listed.
> On the page, the different examples have an underscore and equal and a
> 13 digit number (e.g.http://twitter.com/share?_=1306165040196).  It
> looks like the first 10 digits could be a unix timestamp, but I'm not
> 100% sure about that.  It also means the three digits at the end (196)
> are something else.
> I couldn't find anything in FAQ, so I'm hoping someone can help.  What
> is this number?
> Thanks.
> Tony

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[twitter-dev] Re: How to send tweets from multiple accounts without having to login

[Ken D.]

You will have stored the tokens for those accounts that you control
and on behalf of which you want to send Tweets. You no longer need to
authenticate via Twitter, just be logged in to your own system.

You can use a form that includes a SELECT tag allowing the choice of
account to use when tweeting. Bear in mind that consistently tweeting
the same tweets from multiple accounts is probably not a very good
idea.

As an aside, re-reading the TOS, I wonder whether this pattern on a
public web site - whereby a user is enabled to send Tweets without
passing the "Connect with Twitter" step -  requires display of "the
end user's Twitter identity, including visible display of the end
user's avatar, Twitter user name, and the Twitter bird mark". (Rules
III.3)


On Mar 16, 8:12 am, Laddi  wrote:
> HI,
>
>  I have registered application onhttp://dev.twitter.com/. Now please
> tell how to send tweets from multiple accounts without having to
> login.
>
> Thanks
> satinder singh hundal

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[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter group API

[Ken D.]

er, there might be..

For "Group" substitute "list". Maximum is 500 followers/list.
If they are following you, you can message them.
Where's the problem?

On Mar 15, 9:25 pm, Tim Haines  wrote:
> No, there's not.
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Richard  wrote:
> > Does anyone know if there is program available to create several
> > groups using one Twitter account and allowing you to message each of
> > those groups individually?
>
> > For example -
>
> > Twitter.com/username
> >    Group 1 (100 followers)
> >    Group 2 (56 followers)
> >    Group 3 (77 followers)
>
> > I would like to send separate messages to each of those groups.
> > Please let me know if you know of any way to do this via API or a 3rd
> > party program.  Thank you.
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: Recurring Tweets

[Ken D.]

1537,

I'm not sure you're going to get an official response since the
twitter team will be wanting to prevent abuse.

Basically I was talking about two or more consecutive tweets with char-
for-char the same content. But I believe the guidelines referred to
above warn that near-identical tweets too, if repeated too soon or too
often, could be caught by an anti-spam algorithm. And even if some
perfect formula allowed such tweets to get through, they could be
viewed as spam.

More and more I see the same messages repeated after a few hours or
the next day. I'm free to unfollow or reply, but basically I think it
means I am spending too much time on Twitter...

Ken

On Mar 7, 8:22 pm, 1537 News <1537n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is considered an Exact Duplicate Tweet?
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Ken D.  wrote:
> > Similarly, I have noticed that an exact duplicate tweet is no longer
> > systematically rejected.

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[twitter-dev] Re: Bigger avatar images for users/profile_image/twitter ?

[Ken D.]

> Avatars come in three sizes:
>
>         mini = 24x24
>         normal = 48x48
>         bigger = 73x73
>         reasonably_small = 128x128
>
> http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_mini.jpg
> http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_normal.jpg
> http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_bigger.jpg
> http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1_reasonably_small.jpg
>

The original seems to be available at
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/361706538/mk1.jpg

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[twitter-dev] Re: Recurring Tweets

[Ken D.]

Similarly, I have noticed that an exact duplicate tweet is no longer
systematically rejected.

Our CMS was set up to tweet new content items when they are first
viewed by a visitor. If two visitors view the same new item at nearly
the same time, two tweets are sent. Until recently, one would be
rejected. Now, both are published and we have to delete the duplicate
to avoid looking stupid. This behaviour seems to have changed 1-2
months ago.

On Mar 7, 4:17 pm, Tammy Fennell  wrote:
> Hi There,
>
> I was just scanning the twitter automation rule and it doesn't say
> anything about reoccuring scheduled  tweets. I swear it used to say it
> was banned, but has Twitter ammended this now for certain business
> use? Hope so, it's great functionality when used right!
>
> Best,
> Tammy

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[twitter-dev] Re: POSTs to :user/:list_id/create_all returning HTTP status 404 for all requests

[Ken D.]

Mistakes are a fact of life, no excuses necessary. What is hard to
understand is not being able to change a few characters in the
documentation, while developers continue to fall into this silly
trap.

Is the doc generated from the code? Doesn't look like it.

Of course, this documentation bug - and the FAQ about getting a user's
email address, which could also be laid to rest by improving the doc -
keeps this list alive, so I shouldn't complain.

On Mar 3, 7:24 pm, Taylor Singletary 
wrote:
> There's obviously no good excuse I can tell you for the documentation being
> wrong.
>
> In this case, the old resource was never deprecated and never existed -- the
> documentation was wrong from the beginning.
>
> We're very aware of documentation bugs and are actively working towards
> allowing their modification with more fluidity than we have today. Thanks
> for your patience while we get there.
>
> @episod  - Taylor Singletary - Twitter Developer
> Advocate
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:21 AM, sferik  wrote:
> > On Monday, February 28, 2011 8:05:09 AM UTC-8, Taylor Singletary wrote:
> > > It's a documentation error at the moment, the proper path is: POST
> > :user/:list_id/members/create_all
>
> > When was the old resource deprecated? Were there any other resources that
> > changed at the same time? I try to pay close attention to the Twitter API
> > Announcements list, but don't recall seeing anything about this. Could you
> > direct me to the relevant post?
>
> > I'm disappointed that the documentation is not keeping up with the API. If
> > anything, the documentation should be coming ahead of changes, not trailing
> > them.
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: display user's profile image - definitive answer?

[Ken D.]

A couple of months ago, the consensus seemed to be to use tweetimag.es
with user id, like so: http://img.tweetimag.es/i/8970972_o

Ken

On Feb 17, 1:16 pm, del  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> New to the forum, apologies if I'm covering old ground. I've done a
> search but can't find a definitive answer:
>
> I'm trying to develop a simple page that will display the last 25 of
> my twitter feed. All I want to display is each user's profile image
> (thumbnail) and their tweet. While I am new to this, this seems like a
> basic development task.
>
> When I access my twitter's json file...
>
> http://api.twitter.com/statuses/user_timeline/xxxUserdIdxxx.json?coun...
>
> ... I do indeed get the information I need - except the
> user.profile_image_url is MY profile image?? So I have 25 tweets from
> different users (correct) all displaying my profile image next to them
> (incorrect). Why am I not getting each user's profile image?
>
> I know I can check the user's profile image 
> viahttp://api.twitter.com/version/users/profile_image/:screen_name.format
>
> but as that is not the recommended solution due to rate limits what
> should I do?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Del

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[twitter-dev] Re: Data-expanded-url attribute

[Ken D.]

I have a possibly related problem.

We also use an inhouse shortener that returns a 301 redirect, but
Twitterbot misinterprets the shortened URLs. The usual search engine
bots follow the redirect correctly, as far as I can tell.

Each tweet results in a frenzy of 404s from API users who have
received the incorrect URL. Mousing over the shortened URL on
Twitter.com shows the incorrect URL in the title tooltip. Fortunately
for now, it seems we are not subject to t.co wrapping so the original,
correct short URLs can be clicked by Twitter.com users.

The incorrectly interpreted URL is always the same. We've set it up to
redirect to our home page so all is not lost.

Any ideas what could be going on here?

Thanks, Ken


On Feb 14, 2:04 am, ctrand  wrote:
> Any ideas on this one guys?
>
> On Feb 10, 4:06 pm, ctrand  wrote:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I have a bunch of shortened urls which are resolved/redirected to full
> > urls by my webapp.
>
> > e.g.
>
> >http://dealush.com/sale/2wml
>
> > resolves to
>
> >http://dealush.com/shopping-sales/2wml/sydney-sale-8-off-at-catwalk-w...
>
> > When I tweet the short URL, sometimes the data-expanded-url attribute
> > is populated for the url and when I mouseover it I can see the full
> > url. However sometimes it is not populated, and there is no data-
> > expanded-url attribute at all!
>
> > I am wondering if anyone can shed some light onto why it would be so.
>
> > I am also thinking that this is affecting the counters on my tweet
> > buttons, as tweets that do have an URL with the data-expanded-url
> > attribute give a +1 for the counter, and those that do not have a data-
> > expanded-url don't.
>
> > Does something need to happen for the data-expanded-url value to
> > populate? Or perhaps there something wrong with some of my URLS?
>
> > Note: THe example URL above does have a data-expanded-url value.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> > Carl
>
> > PS - Please let me know if you need any additional information from me
> > and it will be forthcoming!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Media Partnerships and Oembed for Twitter's Detail Panel

[Ken D.]

I just re-enabled the Parrotfish plugin and it's pretty amazing. It's
pulling content from my own website and from just about any URL
mentioned in a Tweet. Goes way beyond the advertised performance.

On Feb 2, 1:26 pm, Tom van der Woerdt  wrote:
> Some Twitter applications (including my own) use embed.ly to display
> content.
>
> Tom
>
> On 2/2/11 1:25 PM, Ken D. wrote:
>
> > Ashley,
>
> > While waiting for native support from Twitter, have you checked out
> > the embed.ly Parrotfish plugin (http://labs.embed.ly/) ?
>
> > Grooveshark is one of 160-plus OEmbed-compliant media partners
> > supported by the plugin. Tweets bearing supported URLs are marked in
> > the timeline and yes, you'll see Grooveshark content in your Twitter
> > right pane.
>
> > Don't know how many people are using it.
>
> > Ken
>
> > On Feb 1, 9:38 pm, Ashley Sarver  wrote:
> >> The purpose of this is to find out a way to use twitter's oembed for
> >> listen.grooveshark.com links, and embed the media player of a specific
> >> song when the link is posted. How long does requesting permission for
> >> a media partnership take, and has anyone had problems requesting a
> >> partnership? Has anyone atempted to use oembed on twitter, or began
> >> working with oembed?

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[twitter-dev] Re: Media Partnerships and Oembed for Twitter's Detail Panel

[Ken D.]

Ashley,

While waiting for native support from Twitter, have you checked out
the embed.ly Parrotfish plugin ( http://labs.embed.ly/ ) ?

Grooveshark is one of 160-plus OEmbed-compliant media partners
supported by the plugin. Tweets bearing supported URLs are marked in
the timeline and yes, you'll see Grooveshark content in your Twitter
right pane.

Don't know how many people are using it.

Ken

On Feb 1, 9:38 pm, Ashley Sarver  wrote:
> The purpose of this is to find out a way to use twitter's oembed for
> listen.grooveshark.com links, and embed the media player of a specific
> song when the link is posted. How long does requesting permission for
> a media partnership take, and has anyone had problems requesting a
> partnership? Has anyone atempted to use oembed on twitter, or began
> working with oembed?

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[twitter-dev] Re: statuses missing

[Ken D.]

"Add Location to your tweets" does not actually add a location - good
point, and you are probably not the first to think so. It only enables
your account to accept location information. It is still up to you to
send the geo data.

On Nov 9, 12:23 pm, "Andrew Cross. Gna"  wrote:
> I am succeeded in integrating the twitter with my web application and
> access the twitter futures.
>
> Now, I need your help to get the following in the list of my statuses.
>
>   
>   
>   
>
> at the below of the user tags of the tweet status list.
>
> I have enabled the "Tweet Location" "Add Location to your tweets"
> checked to "TRUE".
>
> May I know, do I need to make any other settings to be set in order to
> get the elements filled with the right information.
>
> Thanking You
>
> Regards,
> Gna Andrew Cross

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

[Ken D.]

Try tweeting this:

http://not-a-url۔com

On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
> is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
> Tweet button).
>
> THe post I need to make comes under this form:
>
> "Please visit A.BBB using "
>
> If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
> company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
> short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
> yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
> not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.
>
> Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
> not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
> from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
> URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
> Twitter to handle that).
>
> I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.
>
> Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

[Ken D.]

cool, that seems to have worked.

Just that it's a funny character to work with: ۔ - try and
you'll see

Anyway it probably defeats the URL parsing.

On Nov 5, 5:11 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
> ۔
> the above Unicode character is the closest I could find to a dot,
> without being a dot...
>
> On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien  wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
>
> > I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
> > is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
> > Tweet button).
>
> > THe post I need to make comes under this form:
>
> > "Please visit A.BBB using "
>
> > If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
> > company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
> > short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
> > yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
> > not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.
>
> > Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
> > not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
> > from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
> > URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
> > Twitter to handle that).
>
> > I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.
>
> > Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to tweeter directly via JS?

[Ken D.]

۔
the above Unicode character is the closest I could find to a dot,
without being a dot...

On Nov 5, 11:15 am, Damien  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I am in need of developing a JS manner of making a tweeter post that
> is slightly different from what Twitter already offers (I mean the
> Tweet button).
>
> THe post I need to make comes under this form:
>
> "Please visit A.BBB using "
>
> If I use the Tweet button, the very long URL is shortened (ok) but the
> company name which is close to an URL form is also rewritened as a
> short URL (wrong). I need to have the company name left alone somehow,
> yet keeping the current form A.BBB in plain text (or as a URL, but
> not shortened) as well as the shortened long URL.
>
> Is there a way to tell twitter to not forcibly shorten an URL that's
> not in full URL format? Or at least mark the first one to be skipped
> from shortening? (I could do this if I would manually shorten the long
> URL, but I cannot do that in my production system, I still need
> Twitter to handle that).
>
> I need a JS-only solution and until now nothing I tried works.
>
> Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: #newtwitter direct message UI

[Ken D.]

Oh great. I just got my first email spam purporting to be a Twitter DM
notification.

On Nov 5, 9:19 am, "Ken D."  wrote:
> Good points. The order is not random - it's the same each time - just
> baffling and useless.
>
> Perhaps we are meant to delete read messages?  A useful 3rd party app
> might archive and delete them, leaving only new messages on Twitter
> and helping to resolve the "rogue app reading dms" issue.
>
> On Nov 5, 1:18 am, Jef Poskanzer  wrote:
>
> > The #newtwitter direct message UI sucks.
>
> > - There's no indication on the main UI that you have an unread
> > message.  If you miss the email notification you will never notice the
> > message.
>
> > - On the DM page, there's no indication of which conversations have
> > unread messages, or even the most recent messages.  The conversations
> > are presented in random order.
>
> > - When a conversation is displayed, again there is no indication of
> > which messages are unread or which is the most recent.  Again they are
> > displayed in random order.
>
> > So.  Are there plans to improve it?  Has anyone written their own
> > improved version?  Anyone want to collaborate on writing one?
> > ---
> > Jef

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[twitter-dev] Re: #newtwitter direct message UI

[Ken D.]

Good points. The order is not random - it's the same each time - just
baffling and useless.

Perhaps we are meant to delete read messages?  A useful 3rd party app
might archive and delete them, leaving only new messages on Twitter
and helping to resolve the "rogue app reading dms" issue.

On Nov 5, 1:18 am, Jef Poskanzer  wrote:
> The #newtwitter direct message UI sucks.
>
> - There's no indication on the main UI that you have an unread
> message.  If you miss the email notification you will never notice the
> message.
>
> - On the DM page, there's no indication of which conversations have
> unread messages, or even the most recent messages.  The conversations
> are presented in random order.
>
> - When a conversation is displayed, again there is no indication of
> which messages are unread or which is the most recent.  Again they are
> displayed in random order.
>
> So.  Are there plans to improve it?  Has anyone written their own
> improved version?  Anyone want to collaborate on writing one?
> ---
> Jef

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[twitter-dev] Re: Suggestion for new feature ..

[Ken D.]

"Favorite"

On Nov 4, 10:17 pm, Ronak Kumar Samantray  wrote:
> It would be super-cool to have this feature. Many a times i just skip the
> tweet for future reference, it would cool if i could mark it somehow..
>
> Ronak Kumar Samantray
> Hyderabad
>
> Mobile : +91-9347290267
>                040-66933916
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Edward Hotchkiss 
> > wrote:
> > borat, check out hootsuite. this is a list for dev not end-users.
>
> > Best,
>
> > --
> > Edward H. Hotchkiss
> >http://www.edwardhotchkiss.com/
> >http://www.twitter.com/edwardhotchkiss/
> > --
>
> > On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Alexandre E. Knorst wrote:
>
> >  Hi Guys !!
>
> >> I´m use Twitter for a short time.
>
> >> Sometimes I see important tweets attached with movies and URL links,
> >> but, don´t have time for read on this moment.
> >> It´s possible mark that tweet for read later ???
>
> >> And .. other important feauture will be score for ranking tweets.
>
> >> Thanks,
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: About catching Twitter user status

[Ken D.]

you're right, it's pretty hard to find this information.

It's way down in 4th position of a Google search for "Twitter API" :
http://dev.twitter.com/doc

On Nov 4, 4:44 am, ESN  wrote:
>  HI,
>
>  I am beginner of using twitter api. If I want to collect user status
> from Twitter, what approach should I take?
>
>  How to use java to collect all users status, if I want to use the
> jsp / java with Twitter API.
>
>  Thank you

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[twitter-dev] Re: Upload image with a tweet

[Ken D.]

OK, I tested it for you.

Post a tweet containing the URL of a Flickr image, you get the
preview.
Post a tweet containing the URL of your avatar on Twitter, no preview.

Keep searching, you find somewhere it's been mentioned the "media
partners" or some such.

On Nov 4, 3:20 pm, fxbois  wrote:
> Any Twitter developper have a clue about this ... I ve searched a lot
> on the web have found nothing
>
> On Nov 3, 6:27 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
>
> > Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it have to do with *where* the image is
> > hosted? I thought Twitter had a list of recognized rich content
> > websites, à la embed.ly.
>
> > On 3 Nov, 18:09, Edward Hotchkiss  wrote:
>
> > > YOU NEED TO HOST THE IMAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE. Once you upload it  
> > > somewhere else and have a link to it, there is your preview.
>
> > > Best,
>
> > > --
> > > Edward H. 
> > > Hotchkisshttp://www.edwardhotchkiss.com/http://www.twitter.com/edwardhotchkiss/
> > > --
>
> > >  edward.png
> > > 3KViewDownload
>
> > > On Nov 3, 2010, at 4:20 AM, fxbois wrote:
>
> > > > Hi
>
> > > > thanks for your response.
>
> > > > I've tried to include in a tweet the url of an image but I don't have
> > > > the image preview when I click on the tweet and I don't have the
> > > > little picto (top right corner) that shows that the tweet includes an
> > > > image.
>
> > > > I there anything I miss ? Isn't there any hidden param to the
> > > > "publish" method ?
>
> > > > On Nov 2, 7:30 pm, Edward Hotchkiss 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >> No, because it needs to be hosted somewhere else. It's just a
> > > >> shortened link to the pic. You can roll your own.
>
> > > >> Best,
>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Edward H. 
> > > >> Hotchkisshttp://www.edwardhotchkiss.com/http://www.twitter.com/edwardhotchkiss/
> > > >> --
>
> > > >>  edward.png
> > > >> 3KViewDownload
>
> > > >> On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:12 AM, fxbois wrote:
>
> > > >>> Hi,
>
> > > >>> is there any API that can be used to insert an image in a tweet. I
> > > >>> know that I can use external services like twitpic but I would  
> > > >>> prefer
> > > >>> to use an internal twitter API if it exists.
>
> > > >>> Thanks in advance
>
> > > >>> Fx
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: How to display lists from multiple users in an app

[Ken D.]

I should add you must not use your credentials to display tweets from
protected accounts that your account has access to.

On 3 Nov, 23:21, "Ken D."  wrote:
> If you own a private list and want to share the content, you just use
> your own credentials (My Access Token) to fetch it. Real-time or
> cached, whatever works for you. There is no 'logged in' - each API
> call is authenticated. How could a user break into your account? A
> single web page can display content retrieved from different accounts
> - yours and the user's, for example.
>
> On 3 Nov, 18:46, Adam Nason  wrote:
>
> > Twitter limits each user account to 20 lists. I have three accounts
> > with different purposes but need the 60 lists across these three
> > accounts to be displayed on one page on my website. Each list link
> > needs to be clickable to the status updates from that list (in that
> > same page likely using ajax). They are private lists (created for
> > viewing only in the app) and I would like to keep them that way though
> > I will take them public if absolutely necessary.
>
> > I'm just the content manager asking this on behalf of the developer so
> > I know little about oAuth but this is how it has been explained to me:
> > "When you request an access token you send Twitter a current timestamp
> > and that timestamp is used to make a signature_basestring. With that
> > signature, you sign every request you send to Twitter. It's a bit
> > tricky not to enter login/pass manually when Twitter asks you to do
> > that." And then there is my concern about the security of my accounts
> > if they are "logged into" on a public, live webpage (warranted/
> > unwarranted? not sure).
>
> > The developer mentioned that even if we take the lists public, we
> > would still need to use oauth/logins to retrieve status updates from
> > the lists. What he proposed is doing the oauth/logins process behind
> > the scenes periodically during the day (based on cron.php timer) and
> > displaying cached messages to users of the app. My preference is to
> > display in real-time assuming that I can get the other two accounts
> > whitelisted. Only one of the accounts is whitelisted for 20,000
> > requests (per hour?).
>
> > So the advice I'm seeking is a bit open-ended as to how proceed from
> > here. Private/public lists? Display real-time vs display cached
> > version? Security concerns? The developer is still pretty new to the
> > API so we're hoping someone can toss us a bone here. Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: How to display lists from multiple users in an app

[Ken D.]

If you own a private list and want to share the content, you just use
your own credentials (My Access Token) to fetch it. Real-time or
cached, whatever works for you. There is no 'logged in' - each API
call is authenticated. How could a user break into your account? A
single web page can display content retrieved from different accounts
- yours and the user's, for example.

On 3 Nov, 18:46, Adam Nason  wrote:
> Twitter limits each user account to 20 lists. I have three accounts
> with different purposes but need the 60 lists across these three
> accounts to be displayed on one page on my website. Each list link
> needs to be clickable to the status updates from that list (in that
> same page likely using ajax). They are private lists (created for
> viewing only in the app) and I would like to keep them that way though
> I will take them public if absolutely necessary.
>
> I'm just the content manager asking this on behalf of the developer so
> I know little about oAuth but this is how it has been explained to me:
> "When you request an access token you send Twitter a current timestamp
> and that timestamp is used to make a signature_basestring. With that
> signature, you sign every request you send to Twitter. It's a bit
> tricky not to enter login/pass manually when Twitter asks you to do
> that." And then there is my concern about the security of my accounts
> if they are "logged into" on a public, live webpage (warranted/
> unwarranted? not sure).
>
> The developer mentioned that even if we take the lists public, we
> would still need to use oauth/logins to retrieve status updates from
> the lists. What he proposed is doing the oauth/logins process behind
> the scenes periodically during the day (based on cron.php timer) and
> displaying cached messages to users of the app. My preference is to
> display in real-time assuming that I can get the other two accounts
> whitelisted. Only one of the accounts is whitelisted for 20,000
> requests (per hour?).
>
> So the advice I'm seeking is a bit open-ended as to how proceed from
> here. Private/public lists? Display real-time vs display cached
> version? Security concerns? The developer is still pretty new to the
> API so we're hoping someone can toss us a bone here. Thanks!

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[twitter-dev] Re: Upload image with a tweet

[Ken D.]

Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it have to do with *where* the image is
hosted? I thought Twitter had a list of recognized rich content
websites, à la embed.ly.

On 3 Nov, 18:09, Edward Hotchkiss  wrote:
> YOU NEED TO HOST THE IMAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE. Once you upload it  
> somewhere else and have a link to it, there is your preview.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Edward H. 
> Hotchkisshttp://www.edwardhotchkiss.com/http://www.twitter.com/edwardhotchkiss/
> --
>
>  edward.png
> 3KViewDownload
>
>
>
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 4:20 AM, fxbois wrote:
>
> > Hi
>
> > thanks for your response.
>
> > I've tried to include in a tweet the url of an image but I don't have
> > the image preview when I click on the tweet and I don't have the
> > little picto (top right corner) that shows that the tweet includes an
> > image.
>
> > I there anything I miss ? Isn't there any hidden param to the
> > "publish" method ?
>
> > On Nov 2, 7:30 pm, Edward Hotchkiss 
> > wrote:
> >> No, because it needs to be hosted somewhere else. It's just a
> >> shortened link to the pic. You can roll your own.
>
> >> Best,
>
> >> --
> >> Edward H. 
> >> Hotchkisshttp://www.edwardhotchkiss.com/http://www.twitter.com/edwardhotchkiss/
> >> --
>
> >>  edward.png
> >> 3KViewDownload
>
> >> On Nov 2, 2010, at 6:12 AM, fxbois wrote:
>
> >>> Hi,
>
> >>> is there any API that can be used to insert an image in a tweet. I
> >>> know that I can use external services like twitpic but I would  
> >>> prefer
> >>> to use an internal twitter API if it exists.
>
> >>> Thanks in advance
>
> >>> Fx
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: Copying or Importing Twitter Lists

[Ken D.]

Don't know of any public tool, but as you suggest it won't be hard to
make one.

If you were planning to use the list /create_all method, see this
thread first:
https://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/browse_thread/thread/8668d4b94d7e0043/eaa833e422b3f4d1

On Nov 2, 7:54 pm, Quy  wrote:
> Is there a tool out there that allows me to copy a Twitter List? For
> example, I've created a new account and wanted to migrate my Twitter
> Lists over to this new account or I want to copy an existing public
> Twitter List and edit it to my liking.
>
> I'm thinking of creating a simple tool using the Twitter API but will
> this hit any rate limiting if this is a public tool?
>
> Quy

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[twitter-dev] Re: user details

[Ken D.]

Just a wild guess. Try this:
import oauth.oauth as oauth

On Oct 6, 2:22 pm, ashwin morey  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have a python file and I am running it through command line. But it keeps
> giving error here
>
> CONSUMER = oauth.OAuthConsumer(CONSUMER_KEY, CONSUMER_SECRET)
> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'OAuthConsumer'
>
> whereas it works when trying to run it through web application.
>
> thanks
>     ashy

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[twitter-dev] Re: Creating a list without description silently fails (on website as wel as using API

[Ken D.]

In my app, the list names are quite descriptive, so until this gets
fixed - and I think it will be -  I send description=name which makes
some sense as the originally input name is transformed (loss of
capitals and special characters) and does not appear in the Twitter UI
anyway.

On Oct 6, 1:06 am, Bert Lagaisse 
wrote:
> Posted ;-)
>
> I hadn't run my unittests for my upcoming WP7 twitter client in two
> weeks. Just ran them again and discovered this "feature" ;-)
> I now force the user to enter a description ;-)
>
> greets
>
> Bert Lagaissewww.virtual-remote.com/twozaic

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[twitter-dev] Re: Creating a list without description silently fails (on website as wel as using API

[Ken D.]

Nice find! This is recent, a day or two.

There is confusion elsewhere in the doc regarding optional parameters,
For example, in DELETE :user/lists/:id, id is said to be optional.

If this also fails in the Twitter UI there is hope that it will be
fixed soon.

For now Bert, this bug is yours:
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/entry

Ken

On Oct 5, 10:08 pm, Bert Lagaisse 
wrote:
> Whenever I create a list, using the twitter.com website, or using the
> api, and I dont' give a description (which is marked optional in the
> api), then the list is not created. However, there is no error
> message.
> This bug can only have been introduced in the last weeks I think.
>
> Any one else with this problem ?

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

[Ken D.]

Cool. You could visit the tracker page for this issue,
http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=1884 and "star"
the issue to help get it fixed sooner. This has got to be one of the
easiest Twitter bugs to fix.

Ken

On Oct 3, 6:08 pm, Damon Clinkscales  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Ken D.  wrote:
> > Damon,
>
> > Mea culpa! There's an error in the create_all documentation. I should
> > know since I filed the bug...
>
> > Try:http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members/create_all.format
>
> > Afaik,http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members.xmlis correct for
> > adding a single user.
>
> > Ken
>
> Hey Ken,
>
> That was it exactly.  The create_all works perfectly now.
>
> Thanks!
> /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

[Ken D.]

Damon,

Mea culpa! There's an error in the create_all documentation. I should
know since I filed the bug...

Try: http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members/create_all.format

Afaik, http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/members.xml is correct for
adding a single user.

Ken

On Oct 3, 3:41 pm, Damon Clinkscales  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Ken D.  wrote:
> > Hey Damon,
>
> > The URL you cite is that of the documentation page. The correct URL
> > (for create_all) is:
>
> >http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/create_all.xml
>
> > with parameter user_id=:ids or screen_name=:screen_names
>
> > The example is:
> >http://api.twitter.com/1/twitterapidocs/firemen/create_all.xml?user_i...
>
> > Try that..
>
> Hey Ken,
>
> Yeah, I was just including those URLs to let you know which methods I
> was talking about in the documentation.
>
> The call being generated by the client lib (Grackle, in this case)
> should look as you describe, afaik.  But there must be something amiss
> with it.
>
> Thanks,
> /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: add list members

[Ken D.]

Hey Damon,

The URL you cite is that of the documentation page. The correct URL
(for create_all) is:

http://api.twitter.com/1/:user/:list/create_all.xml

with parameter user_id=:ids or screen_name=:screen_names

The example is:
http://api.twitter.com/1/twitterapidocs/firemen/create_all.xml?user_id=783214,6253282

Try that..

On Oct 2, 8:16 pm, Damon Clinkscales  wrote:
> I've tried both create_all.xml and members.xml to add multiple or just
> one member to a list.  The list is owned by me and exists.
>
> http://dev.twitter.com/doc/post/:user/:list_id/create_all
> orhttp://dev.twitter.com/doc/post/:user/:list_id/members
>
> When the call goes through, the response is a normal #newtwitter web
> page instead of an API response.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> thanks,
> /damon

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[twitter-dev] Re: Comparing Friendship

[Ken D.]

Interesting! - thanks for sharing. As they say, one man's terrorist is
another man's freedom fighter.

I've just been followed by someone selling business cards. They are
following 51,000 and are followed by 54,000. Well, I doubt they are
reading many of those tweets, they are too busy selling business
cards. Their own stream consists of recycled aphorisms and I doubt
many people are reading that. Funnily, three people we follow also
follow them, but this can only be due to auto-following. It's all
meaningless, and worse, it's a waste of resources. When Twitter is
having capacity issues I can't help but think of that.

It's also too bad when one's following list is just a mirror of one's
followers, because following lists can be a great source of new
accounts to follow. The list of accounts we follow is likely to
interest our followers, and we now make it available as a Twitter list
that can be followed. My observation is that carefully curated
followings are the best lists on Twitter. We'll soon be releasing our
tool that lets anyone grab a following and make a followable list from
it. Of course, the following has to be less than 500, but that's about
the maximum number of accounts I could follow...

On Sep 30, 5:19 pm, "D. Smith"  wrote:
> It's important to unfollow someone who unfollowed you. I must
> emphasize here that I am not talking about unfollowing someone who is
> not following me, but only those who used to follow me, then
> unfollowed. In this case it's very important to unfollow them right
> away. This is important because otherwise the schemers that follow
> you, then get a follow-back and then unfollow you win.
> Remember kids: if you don't auto unfollow-back that the terrorists
> will win.
>
> And that's not a good thing. Also if you want to follow over 2000
> people you must keep you following/followers ratio really tight and
> that's why I would need to unfollow people who are not following me
> back. It's really simple.
>
> There are good ways to follow and read messages from many thousands of
> people. One way is to separate them by lists and then read lists
> instead of your main timeline. second way is to you other third party
> clients that lets you filter by keywords and stuff like that.
>
> I want to follow people with common interests and that common interest
> happens to be "I am interested in following people who follow back"
>
> When I follow someone I basically giving that person a chance to sell
> me something. I say, fine, but you give me a chance to sell you
> something too. I may still follow a few accounts that are so important
> to me that I will follow them even though I know they don't follow
> back, but that's just a handful of people.
>
> On Sep 28, 12:03 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
>
> > Hey Rick,
>
> > It's the second time in a week that someone brings up the autofollow/
> > unfollow question (see 
> > also:http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/msg/b7b1dfbf6...)
> > and I would love to understand the "follow economy" once and for all.
>
> > First of all, you say that if someone is following you, you will
> > follow back, but if they are not following, you will unfollow. If you
> > are not yet following them, do you mean that you would block them?
>
> > What is the use case for auto-following, and why would it be so
> > important to unfollow users who do not follow back? Is there a cost?
> > Are those users' tweets less interesting if they aren't following you?
> > I mean, we can't all be followed by Justin Bieber! Personally, I'm
> > over that...
>
> > If one succeeds in building up an account that follows and is followed
> > back by thousands of users - as seems to be the goal - does one ever
> > actually visit the account? It can't possibly make any sense to access
> > such an account via twitter.com. Are there tools that can render such
> > an account usable or meaningful? Finally, why the pretense of
> > following if one will never actually read the users' tweets? Does
> > Twitter have in mind to adapt the system to this reality?
>
> > This is not a rant, I sincerely want to know!
>
> > On Sep 28, 4:34 pm, Rick Stuivenberg 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hello,
>
> > > What are the oauth functions to check if somebody is following me or
> > > not? I am currently making a script to check up if a user is following
> > > me, and if so, following them back, and if not, unfollow the user.
>
> > > Can somebody give me a point in the direction what oauth functions I
> > > need?
>
> > > btw; I am using twitteroauth.
>
> > > Rick

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[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

[Ken D.]

Zut alors...

Would it not be preferable to create an issue in the tracker as API-
related? I'd be interested in learning what happened. And maybe I can
get some help removing those lists... So far my research indicates
that to kill a zombie you need to destroy its brain...

HTH

Ken


On Sep 30, 11:29 pm, Taylor Singletary 
wrote:
> Ken,
>
> Bizarre. While I expect a certain amount of List bugginess on a daily
> basis, this is a bit more severe than usual.
>
> And also outside of where I can help you to any level of satisfaction.
>
> Hate to pass the buck, but please re-summarize the issues that lead to
> this zombie state, along with the specific lists in a support ticket
> athttp://bit.ly/twicket
>
> Blargh,
> Taylor
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Ken D.  wrote:
> > Hey Taylor,
>
> > These lists are zombies.
>
> > Through Twitter.com, I have failed to change the status from private
> > to public, change the name or add a member. When I select a member to
> > add from the find people search, then user-actions list-menu button,
> > it appears to have worked: the "Your lists: list-name" tag appears
> > below the selected user. But the action has actually failed - the list
> > page shows no members.
>
> > Attempting to add a member via the API, I get an XML  element
> > with 0. Attempting to delete the list via
> > the API returns the same ... undead!
>
> > Ken
>
> > On Sep 30, 10:30 pm, Taylor Singletary 
> > wrote:
> >> Hey Ken,
>
> >> Lists really are a sometimes embarrassing corner of the API, not going
> >> to mince words there.
>
> >> What is the type of failure you're getting when deleting the lists via the 
> >> API?
>
> >> A lingering bug around is that lists without users often cannot be
> >> deleted correctly. If you're still having this problem, can you try
> >> adding a user to a list you haven't been able to delete and then try
> >> the deletion?
>
> >> Your batch creation problems do seem to be more availability-bound
> >> than anything else.
>
> >> As for the seemingly-chaotic naming convention of duplicately named
> >> lists: yes, it boggles the mind. Best to just make sure you check the
> >> names of lists a member already has before attempting to create a new
> >> one at this time.
>
> >> Taylor
>
> >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ken D.  wrote:
> >> > I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
> >> > creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
> >> > first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
> >> > not have been too busy.
>
> >> > In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
> >> > corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.
>
> >> > May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
> >> > lists removed from my account!
>
> >> > Thanks!
>
> >> > Ken
>
> >> > On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
> >> >> I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
> >> >> create_all method.
>
> >> >> 1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
> >> >> create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
> >> >> able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
> >> >> sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.
>
> >> >> 2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
> >> >> twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
> >> >> will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
> >> >> link, "Following: 0". On the list page 
> >> >> itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
> >> >> no tweets are shown, only the "Find people to add to your list:"
> >> >> search box.
>
> >> >> 3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
> >> >> manually on Twitter.com.
>
> >> >> Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
> >> >> "mylist" twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second "mylist"
> >> >> will not be called "mylist-2", but mylist-13!
>
> >> >> Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
> >> >> important, so any advice will be appreciated.
>
> >> >&

[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

[Ken D.]

Hey Taylor,

These lists are zombies.

Through Twitter.com, I have failed to change the status from private
to public, change the name or add a member. When I select a member to
add from the find people search, then user-actions list-menu button,
it appears to have worked: the "Your lists: list-name" tag appears
below the selected user. But the action has actually failed - the list
page shows no members.

Attempting to add a member via the API, I get an XML  element
with 0. Attempting to delete the list via
the API returns the same ... undead!

Ken


On Sep 30, 10:30 pm, Taylor Singletary 
wrote:
> Hey Ken,
>
> Lists really are a sometimes embarrassing corner of the API, not going
> to mince words there.
>
> What is the type of failure you're getting when deleting the lists via the 
> API?
>
> A lingering bug around is that lists without users often cannot be
> deleted correctly. If you're still having this problem, can you try
> adding a user to a list you haven't been able to delete and then try
> the deletion?
>
> Your batch creation problems do seem to be more availability-bound
> than anything else.
>
> As for the seemingly-chaotic naming convention of duplicately named
> lists: yes, it boggles the mind. Best to just make sure you check the
> names of lists a member already has before attempting to create a new
> one at this time.
>
> Taylor
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Ken D.  wrote:
> > I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
> > creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
> > first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
> > not have been too busy.
>
> > In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
> > corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.
>
> > May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
> > lists removed from my account!
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Ken
>
> > On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
> >> I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
> >> create_all method.
>
> >> 1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
> >> create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
> >> able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
> >> sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.
>
> >> 2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
> >> twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
> >> will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
> >> link, "Following: 0". On the list page 
> >> itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
> >> no tweets are shown, only the "Find people to add to your list:"
> >> search box.
>
> >> 3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
> >> manually on Twitter.com.
>
> >> Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
> >> "mylist" twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second "mylist"
> >> will not be called "mylist-2", but mylist-13!
>
> >> Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
> >> important, so any advice will be appreciated.
>
> >> Cheers!
>
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[twitter-dev] Re: List-related weirdnesses

[Ken D.]

I resolved this problem by adding a few seconds of sleep after
creating a list and populating it. The problem did not appear when I
first tested my code, but it was morning European time and Twitter may
not have been too busy.

In the process of finding this out, I seem to have created some
corrupt lists that cannot be edited or deleted.

May I ask someone from Twitter to kindly contact me to help get these
lists removed from my account!

Thanks!

Ken


On Sep 29, 9:33 pm, "Ken D."  wrote:
> I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
> create_all method.
>
> 1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
> create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
> able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
> sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.
>
> 2.) Viewing the result on 'old' 
> twitter.com,http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
> will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
> link, "Following: 0". On the list page 
> itself,http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
> no tweets are shown, only the "Find people to add to your list:"
> search box.
>
> 3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
> manually on Twitter.com.
>
> Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
> "mylist" twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second "mylist"
> will not be called "mylist-2", but mylist-13!
>
> Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
> important, so any advice will be appreciated.
>
> Cheers!

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[twitter-dev] List-related weirdnesses

[Ken D.]

I am creating private lists and then adding members with the
create_all method.

1.) Creating a list via the API is no problem. Then I post to
create_all with batches of 20-90 user ids. Only rarely have I been
able to add more than a single batch, even with a few seconds of
sleep, but occasionally it has succeeded.

2.) Viewing the result on 'old' twitter.com, 
http://twitter.com/#list/[account]/[list-name]
will show a timeline (eg a batch of 20 users successfully added) and a
link, "Following: 0". On the list page itself, 
http://twitter.com/[account]/[list-name],
no tweets are shown, only the "Find people to add to your list:"
search box.

3.) And... I am unable to delete these lists, using either the API or
manually on Twitter.com.

Oh, and one more thing: If I try to add (via API) a list named
"mylist" twice and I already have say 12 lists, the second "mylist"
will not be called "mylist-2", but mylist-13!

Are these known issues? I am working on a project where lists are
important, so any advice will be appreciated.

Cheers!


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[twitter-dev] Re: Comparing Friendship

[Ken D.]

Hey Rick,

It's the second time in a week that someone brings up the autofollow/
unfollow question (see also: 
http://groups.google.com/group/twitter-development-talk/msg/b7b1dfbf6500ab83)
and I would love to understand the "follow economy" once and for all.

First of all, you say that if someone is following you, you will
follow back, but if they are not following, you will unfollow. If you
are not yet following them, do you mean that you would block them?

What is the use case for auto-following, and why would it be so
important to unfollow users who do not follow back? Is there a cost?
Are those users' tweets less interesting if they aren't following you?
I mean, we can't all be followed by Justin Bieber! Personally, I'm
over that...

If one succeeds in building up an account that follows and is followed
back by thousands of users - as seems to be the goal - does one ever
actually visit the account? It can't possibly make any sense to access
such an account via twitter.com. Are there tools that can render such
an account usable or meaningful? Finally, why the pretense of
following if one will never actually read the users' tweets? Does
Twitter have in mind to adapt the system to this reality?

This is not a rant, I sincerely want to know!

On Sep 28, 4:34 pm, Rick Stuivenberg 
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What are the oauth functions to check if somebody is following me or
> not? I am currently making a script to check up if a user is following
> me, and if so, following them back, and if not, unfollow the user.
>
> Can somebody give me a point in the direction what oauth functions I
> need?
>
> btw; I am using twitteroauth.
>
> Rick

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