[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Chad Etzel

Yes. We moderate a crap ton of spam on this list that subscribers never see.

This thread is officially locked.

-Chad

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Josh Roesslein  wrote:
>
> Does this list have non-member moderation enabled? Having that on
> helps block most of the spam bots that troll google groups.
>
> Josh
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:
>>
>> It's not that *this* list is a target. It's that *every* list is a
>> target. The cost to send spam is practically zero, so it would take
>> more time and energy to decide what lists *not* to spam. The sad thing
>> is that it works and is obviously profitable, otherwise it would have
>> stopped long ago.
>>
>> -Chad
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Scott Haneda  wrote:
>>>
>>> I do not really understand their motivation, 99% of the groups out there are
>>> not going to be susceptible to spam.  Most groups are tech, or at least,
>>> highly niche, and the people on it are going to know it is spam.  Most
>>> groups are filtered into a folder, there are just so many red flags.
>>>
>>> Spammers are a strange group.
>>>
>>> How come this list is such a target?  I am on some other google groups,
>>> larger than this by a fair degree, and this does not happen.
>>> --
>>> Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg wrote:
>>>
 This looks just great... can't wait to try itj

 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Peter Denton
 wrote:

> I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting
> through, you guys [sic] do a great job.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.
>>
>> The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
>> list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
>> moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
>> incoming posts, and not of the group admins.
>>
>> -Chad
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
>>> nice.
>>>
>>>
>>
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Josh Roesslein

Does this list have non-member moderation enabled? Having that on
helps block most of the spam bots that troll google groups.

Josh

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:
>
> It's not that *this* list is a target. It's that *every* list is a
> target. The cost to send spam is practically zero, so it would take
> more time and energy to decide what lists *not* to spam. The sad thing
> is that it works and is obviously profitable, otherwise it would have
> stopped long ago.
>
> -Chad
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Scott Haneda  wrote:
>>
>> I do not really understand their motivation, 99% of the groups out there are
>> not going to be susceptible to spam.  Most groups are tech, or at least,
>> highly niche, and the people on it are going to know it is spam.  Most
>> groups are filtered into a folder, there are just so many red flags.
>>
>> Spammers are a strange group.
>>
>> How come this list is such a target?  I am on some other google groups,
>> larger than this by a fair degree, and this does not happen.
>> --
>> Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg wrote:
>>
>>> This looks just great... can't wait to try itj
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Peter Denton
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting
 through, you guys [sic] do a great job.


 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:

>
> Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.
>
> The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
> list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
> moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
> incoming posts, and not of the group admins.
>
> -Chad
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti 
> wrote:
>>
>> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
>> nice.
>>
>>
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Chad Etzel

It's not that *this* list is a target. It's that *every* list is a
target. The cost to send spam is practically zero, so it would take
more time and energy to decide what lists *not* to spam. The sad thing
is that it works and is obviously profitable, otherwise it would have
stopped long ago.

-Chad

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 10:47 PM, Scott Haneda  wrote:
>
> I do not really understand their motivation, 99% of the groups out there are
> not going to be susceptible to spam.  Most groups are tech, or at least,
> highly niche, and the people on it are going to know it is spam.  Most
> groups are filtered into a folder, there are just so many red flags.
>
> Spammers are a strange group.
>
> How come this list is such a target?  I am on some other google groups,
> larger than this by a fair degree, and this does not happen.
> --
> Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg wrote:
>
>> This looks just great... can't wait to try itj
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Peter Denton
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting
>>> through, you guys [sic] do a great job.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:
>>>

 Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.

 The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
 list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
 moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
 incoming posts, and not of the group admins.

 -Chad

 On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti 
 wrote:
>
> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
> nice.
>
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Scott Haneda


I do not really understand their motivation, 99% of the groups out  
there are not going to be susceptible to spam.  Most groups are tech,  
or at least, highly niche, and the people on it are going to know it  
is spam.  Most groups are filtered into a folder, there are just so  
many red flags.


Spammers are a strange group.

How come this list is such a target?  I am on some other google  
groups, larger than this by a fair degree, and this does not happen.

--
Scott * If you contact me off list replace talklists@ with scott@ *

On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Jeffrey Greenberg wrote:


This looks just great... can't wait to try itj

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Peter Denton  
wrote:



I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting
through, you guys [sic] do a great job.


On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel   
wrote:




Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.

The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address  
of

list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
incoming posts, and not of the group admins.

-Chad

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti  


wrote:


Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
nice.




[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Jeffrey Greenberg
This looks just great... can't wait to try itj

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Peter Denton wrote:

> I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting
> through, you guys [sic] do a great job.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:
>
>>
>> Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.
>>
>> The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
>> list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
>> moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
>> incoming posts, and not of the group admins.
>>
>> -Chad
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
>> > nice.
>> >
>>
>
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Peter Denton
I would say, considering I can only recall a few spam posts getting through,
you guys [sic] do a great job.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Chad Etzel  wrote:

>
> Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.
>
> The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
> list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
> moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
> incoming posts, and not of the group admins.
>
> -Chad
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti 
> wrote:
> >
> > Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
> > nice.
> >
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Chad Etzel

Why yes we can, and we do... loads of it.

The problem is that these spammers are spoofing the "from" address of
list owners who usually get automatically posted and skip the
moderation step. This is a flaw of the way Google Groups handles
incoming posts, and not of the group admins.

-Chad

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Dave Briccetti  wrote:
>
> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
> nice.
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread JDG
exactly, and deleting from the group won't affect those of us that read it
via email. once it's deleted it'll still be in our inboxes. it's not that
big a deal. just delete the message.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 14:36, Marco Kaiser  wrote:

> you probably wouldn't believe how much spam we delete before it actually
> hits the list...
>
> 2009/10/19 Dave Briccetti 
>
>>
>> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
>> nice.
>>
>
>


-- 
Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Marco Kaiser
you probably wouldn't believe how much spam we delete before it actually
hits the list...

2009/10/19 Dave Briccetti 

>
> Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
> nice.
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Dave Briccetti

Google group admins can actually DELETE spam, too, which would be
nice.


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Chad Etzel

I have asked Alex to modify his settings to Moderated, which should
cut back on his spoofed spam.
-Chad

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Peter Denton  wrote:
> now with only 48 megs of adware!
>
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>>
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>>
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[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Peter Denton
now with only 48 megs of adware!

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Dewald Pretorius  wrote:

>
> Foxtrot Oscar.
>
> On Oct 19, 2:01 pm, Nero 9  wrote:
> > Nero 9 is the next generation of the worldâ%u20AC%u2122s most trusted
> integrated digital media and home entertainment software suite. It features
> new cutting-edge functionality that makes enjoying digital media content
> simple. This easy-to-use yet powerful multimedia suite, gives you the
> freedom to create, rip, copy, burn, edit, share, and upload online. Whatever
> you want â%u20AC%u201C music, video, photo, and data â%u20AC%u201C enjoy and
> share with family and friends anytime, anywhere. .Downloadd
>


[twitter-dev] Re: Nero 9 - FULL Version - [Precracked] 51MB ONLY!

2009-10-19 Thread Dewald Pretorius

Foxtrot Oscar.

On Oct 19, 2:01 pm, Nero 9  wrote:
> Nero 9 is the next generation of the worldâ%u20AC%u2122s most trusted 
> integrated digital media and home entertainment software suite. It features 
> new cutting-edge functionality that makes enjoying digital media content 
> simple. This easy-to-use yet powerful multimedia suite, gives you the freedom 
> to create, rip, copy, burn, edit, share, and upload online. Whatever you want 
> â%u20AC%u201C music, video, photo, and data â%u20AC%u201C enjoy and share 
> with family and friends anytime, anywhere. .Downloadd