Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi Steffen, Steffen Gebert wrote: Is there already a date set for that sprint? No, not yet. Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – Active contributor TYPO3 CMS TYPO3 inspiring people to share! ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi Steffen, Steffen Gebert wrote: I think one has to do some checks, like if the EM really follows our redirects and such things.. We should do those checks during the next TER sprint which might take place in Q1 2014. The EM (at least for older versions of TYPO3) might not follow redirects, depending on the server/TYPO3 configuration. Therefore we should try as hard as we can to push updated URLs to the sites. I also would like to mention that such a step would simplify a lot of the TER handling, especially the stat counting. Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – Active contributor TYPO3 CMS TYPO3 inspiring people to share! ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Philipp, exactly, it makes things a lot easier. If we know that there are constellations, when the EM does not follow the redirect, we might still proxy it from the old URL to the new one - - but if we wouldn't have to do so, a redirect would be preferred, of course. Is there already a date set for that sprint? Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?sort=priority On 10/01/14 10:39, Philipp Gampe wrote: Hi Steffen, Steffen Gebert wrote: I think one has to do some checks, like if the EM really follows our redirects and such things.. We should do those checks during the next TER sprint which might take place in Q1 2014. The EM (at least for older versions of TYPO3) might not follow redirects, depending on the server/TYPO3 configuration. Therefore we should try as hard as we can to push updated URLs to the sites. I also would like to mention that such a step would simplify a lot of the TER handling, especially the stat counting. Best regards -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSz9S6AAoJEIskG/rSlyw4Uw8H/3vNE/s1JEhm6DrV1seF7KcT KhwT24DUuAYWQWfiqFyT1IIT0ot7C/yx4xKgjL4Gk/OH5bkX6LJrM0e7/0MKbn7R Wh0IZjXyTbCGugm/kYElUb3Q+hrtiMCvkiGkAyPjKjRkBT6wivOae+sC4OxJ+Fai si09QArpdCLzRnrJZCwBidpiCCjzlPc1apUSacCmQUgnWoP9950qHzNasDT3S1Do +i2cOQZhi73ScYZ+kC2U6KRrPF8N4yBvK7I6bxQR7AAGXu1hcEqO4wh/OifWLiUm PvSaZG7h6351soobI5K1JY4vfxdAOzHEaZWA5hO31Dyjo43aqvSU6v82tIZhMX8= =uWZB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm revisiting that topic, as the server sponsor finally wants to shut down the old typo3.org servers (which is totally reasonable). So I'd like to have a decision for that soon - unfortunately, only Philipp contributed to the notes document. Should I sum it up and maybe re-post it to the core-team list? I think one has to do some checks, like if the EM really follows our redirects and such things.. Can I get 4 eyes from the Active Contributors Team that collaborate to sort out these issues, please? Thanks! Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?sort=priority On 06/10/13 11:10, Steffen Gebert wrote: Hi, I've written together some TODOs: https://notes.typo3.org/p/deactivating-TER-mirrors Please extend that with your comments. Kind regards Steffen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSzxQ8AAoJEIskG/rSlyw4w1sIALcBkegrCPbRTw18dtpq0F4S FBpU6dZeAHtp0CWj9TR13BZz7wQ6UpN53W7Q3yQHHmmJ89f07kpAmkfdGSpq1yx8 5Ibyixfd8cfPcLyQWC63CQTo/Ssmd2YvgKS6FT2NZzni+kU8qkThyOXbJhSKbAsB NZs+2WYHva61HsgdYhIRAIlvIe7XknCUgk5m1bcdF18TmXVKtuT6EbCxpW7oyKrH ZICd7rfQcztV/5NS7oJiPWWi8l+NPO66w9yAnI+2NnOaM0s0VYyy9aW1Kj/Cge+8 EEVDZN5M12kzVOIquQlIKDK1Pu8ncMxLRXgHNaxp5i/toOhqk21db2uDZCfA7FU= =ftJS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi, On 5-10-2013 21:46, Philipp Gampe wrote: I think we should concentrate on a composer integration, instead of trying to bring private repositories to EM once more again. This will bring all those features we never had time to implement. The idea of composer integration needs more thought, simply because there are not only benefits but also potential problems which need to be solved. See [1] for a thread about composer. It's unfortunately not as simple as if we have composer support all problems with dependencies are solved. [1] http://forum.typo3.org/index.php?t=msgth=198285goto=691201#msg_691201 -- Jigal van Hemert TYPO3 CMS Active Contributor TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: typo3.org ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I've written together some TODOs: https://notes.typo3.org/p/deactivating-TER-mirrors Please extend that with your comments. Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?sort=priority On 10/5/13 5:48 PM, Christian Kuhn wrote: Hey, On 10/05/2013 12:16 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: Christian, thanks for the offer. I think that should be discussed. The one good thing with the mirrors.xml was that we could easily adjust the URL of the mirror. So before you now hard-code typo3.org/fileadmin/ter/, we might want to move that to ter.typo3.org (which could just be the same nginx pointing to the old directory. At the moment I don't really see an issue with hardcoding the link. It may be not optimal, but we could remove a whole layer of complexity from em if we kill the mirrors, and also typo3.org handling could get more simple. This random mirror selection with current synchronisation issues really sucks, this is for example obvious with a caretaker server that may toggle 'security' status of extensions if one mirror got the new info, but another not. We're experiencing those issues for a long time already with a task that updates the extension list on a regular basis. Our solution was to hardcode the mirror to typo3.org ;) For b/w compatibility we could just hardcode the mirrors.xml.gz file on typo3.org pointing to the main system only and don't touch it anymore afterwards. This way we could also clean up the typo3.org codebase quickly. Regards Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSUSj0AAoJEIskG/rSlyw4DxwIALxG0UwWl6bcI+g7377Q+Bbk 6Ih8ooESLfEziiNl3wmiao7OQny7EJQ4lRtPAtVkRPIkRPRPmNFvNiJJZT3bUqhM ZLkKN3N7++SK/ErNFJLjNEKUk4vOA0S+2dSXN00FBlsP20Y2aouoy9g6urmwwoNF a8QfNmFqPJIY6+WaQn5BRMZZc4FseVWpbD4Foc7RR0zwytDIksM7O3HHtzwME7W9 IWzsqK5hAh0+CxLAD1Y14m9TVopFMtCp32/JDLII6dlwXrSadMHuoOYFc26oFH0j 0HUpqsq11Kj3h9IY+xHIGah2dbj3/gSaOsCCmkKgDzra2E/GsLDnZsvq9pg3Jyw= =T4V6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
On 10/04/2013 07:26 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: That (unfortunately) still hasn't happened, from my side because I very much think the that implemented concept is bad. Especially when it comes to download counter, it's horrible (there's a script that was only active on the old typo3.org server that goes through the access log every night and reports the download stats via a SOAP request). The mirror handling *is* implemented in 6.0 em. As far as I recall, the mirror handling was implemented in a time when typo3.org was unstable and offline pretty often, so the main reason was not load but stability. Since typo3.org is very stable nowadays, we could imho drop the whole mirror stuff to not face all those issues with synchronisation, organising external systems, download counters, timing issues and so on. As far as I know the codebase beyond that on typo3.org is also not really nice nor maintained. So, if nobody objects, we could just create a patch for em 6.0 to drop all that stuff, what do you think? Regards Christian ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi Christian, Christian Kuhn wrote: So, if nobody objects, we could just create a patch for em 6.0 to drop all that stuff, what do you think? +1 In the past, t3o was down each night one or two hours for the doc rendering ... that is history now :) Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – Active contributor TYPO3 CMS TYPO3 inspiring people to share! ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian, thanks for the offer. I think that should be discussed. The one good thing with the mirrors.xml was that we could easily adjust the URL of the mirror. So before you now hard-code typo3.org/fileadmin/ter/, we might want to move that to ter.typo3.org (which could just be the same nginx pointing to the old directory. I see (esp. Asian) people crying out loud because the can't use any mirrors near them, however I don't see problems for T3X downloads, but only for the icons in the EM (huge number of requests with high delay would really slow the loading process down). Other than that (from my limited point of view) I don't expect lot of problems. In Sept. the T3X downloads from the typo3.org server were 92GB only. Compared to our Git server (580GB in September, btw. thanks Speedpartner / Stefan Neufeind for sponsoring) that's nothing. How does that all relate to the concept of own TERs? Should that still be possible? Will this be influenced by such a change? Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?sort=priority On 10/5/13 11:41 AM, Christian Kuhn wrote: On 10/04/2013 07:26 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: That (unfortunately) still hasn't happened, from my side because I very much think the that implemented concept is bad. Especially when it comes to download counter, it's horrible (there's a script that was only active on the old typo3.org server that goes through the access log every night and reports the download stats via a SOAP request). The mirror handling *is* implemented in 6.0 em. As far as I recall, the mirror handling was implemented in a time when typo3.org was unstable and offline pretty often, so the main reason was not load but stability. Since typo3.org is very stable nowadays, we could imho drop the whole mirror stuff to not face all those issues with synchronisation, organising external systems, download counters, timing issues and so on. As far as I know the codebase beyond that on typo3.org is also not really nice nor maintained. So, if nobody objects, we could just create a patch for em 6.0 to drop all that stuff, what do you think? Regards Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJST+bmAAoJEIskG/rSlyw4n8gH/i43AWTFQMPOS9HsTtUVfh5G E3KfOJ6+k8fc+QOTjRctH/HPnf81RsM0EOkPmUf7EwuoTTynLwFpu5Fbmqtfu0tn TJ0dz0aqwwvvXLcVVQgJCEpZjsXu25jrfA6Xy8rxa83Y/aSNETh++gZ2gDTwKsj3 /wY2nk2gMEqueavPyyCGQsgDWrjYGFTuOdwJZFLRPvg0hS3QbLZHuuBfYrRFZtJB EfBrK990jfrGnyU1C+pczXX5yF5+Ds5ODfypleEJ6XClRfX/GFpwC4VM3/4VYNMM pOuikbQ/+zHOgZs6H5zlAshAQGaNxueMXzq3UM0PQvKRe4Y9QoI+1WDLnvxqPtU= =qONj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi! IMHO we need to fixes here. A short term and a long term. The short term fix is to either to bring a UI to select a mirror manually, or to always use the typo3.org mirror (removing the random selection in the code). ASAP! The long term is to get of course all the stuff you described below, but I still think some clever solution to have local TERs (either private or for continents) shall be given. Kind regards Markus Markus Klein TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member -Original Message- From: typo3-english-boun...@lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-english- boun...@lists.typo3.org] On Behalf Of Steffen Gebert Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:16 PM To: typo3-english@lists.typo3.org Subject: Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian, thanks for the offer. I think that should be discussed. The one good thing with the mirrors.xml was that we could easily adjust the URL of the mirror. So before you now hard-code typo3.org/fileadmin/ter/, we might want to move that to ter.typo3.org (which could just be the same nginx pointing to the old directory. I see (esp. Asian) people crying out loud because the can't use any mirrors near them, however I don't see problems for T3X downloads, but only for the icons in the EM (huge number of requests with high delay would really slow the loading process down). Other than that (from my limited point of view) I don't expect lot of problems. In Sept. the T3X downloads from the typo3.org server were 92GB only. Compared to our Git server (580GB in September, btw. thanks Speedpartner / Stefan Neufeind for sponsoring) that's nothing. How does that all relate to the concept of own TERs? Should that still be possible? Will this be influenced by such a change? Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v? sort=priority On 10/5/13 11:41 AM, Christian Kuhn wrote: On 10/04/2013 07:26 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: That (unfortunately) still hasn't happened, from my side because I very much think the that implemented concept is bad. Especially when it comes to download counter, it's horrible (there's a script that was only active on the old typo3.org server that goes through the access log every night and reports the download stats via a SOAP request). The mirror handling *is* implemented in 6.0 em. As far as I recall, the mirror handling was implemented in a time when typo3.org was unstable and offline pretty often, so the main reason was not load but stability. Since typo3.org is very stable nowadays, we could imho drop the whole mirror stuff to not face all those issues with synchronisation, organising external systems, download counters, timing issues and so on. As far as I know the codebase beyond that on typo3.org is also not really nice nor maintained. So, if nobody objects, we could just create a patch for em 6.0 to drop all that stuff, what do you think? Regards Christian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJST+bmAAoJEIskG/rSlyw4n8gH/i43AWTFQMPOS9HsTtUVf h5G E3KfOJ6+k8fc+QOTjRctH/HPnf81RsM0EOkPmUf7EwuoTTynLwFpu5Fbmqtfu0 tn TJ0dz0aqwwvvXLcVVQgJCEpZjsXu25jrfA6Xy8rxa83Y/aSNETh++gZ2gDTwKsj3 /wY2nk2gMEqueavPyyCGQsgDWrjYGFTuOdwJZFLRPvg0hS3QbLZHuuBfYrRFZ tJB EfBrK990jfrGnyU1C+pczXX5yF5+Ds5ODfypleEJ6XClRfX/GFpwC4VM3/4VYNM M pOuikbQ/+zHOgZs6H5zlAshAQGaNxueMXzq3UM0PQvKRe4Y9QoI+1WDLnvx qPtU= =qONj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hey, On 10/05/2013 02:36 PM, Markus Klein wrote: The long term is to get of course all the stuff you described below, but I still think some clever solution to have local TERs (either private or for continents) shall be given. Please don't mix up mirror handling with repository handling. The latter never really worked (was broken in old em, too) and it has nothing to do with the mirror stuff. The repo handling is not fully implemented in new em and I personally also have only very little interest in fixing this detail. Regards Christian ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hey, On 10/05/2013 12:16 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: Christian, thanks for the offer. I think that should be discussed. The one good thing with the mirrors.xml was that we could easily adjust the URL of the mirror. So before you now hard-code typo3.org/fileadmin/ter/, we might want to move that to ter.typo3.org (which could just be the same nginx pointing to the old directory. At the moment I don't really see an issue with hardcoding the link. It may be not optimal, but we could remove a whole layer of complexity from em if we kill the mirrors, and also typo3.org handling could get more simple. This random mirror selection with current synchronisation issues really sucks, this is for example obvious with a caretaker server that may toggle 'security' status of extensions if one mirror got the new info, but another not. We're experiencing those issues for a long time already with a task that updates the extension list on a regular basis. Our solution was to hardcode the mirror to typo3.org ;) For b/w compatibility we could just hardcode the mirrors.xml.gz file on typo3.org pointing to the main system only and don't touch it anymore afterwards. This way we could also clean up the typo3.org codebase quickly. Regards Christian ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi Christian, Christian Kuhn wrote: The long term is to get of course all the stuff you described below, but I still think some clever solution to have local TERs (either private or for continents) shall be given. Please don't mix up mirror handling with repository handling. The latter never really worked (was broken in old em, too) and it has nothing to do with the mirror stuff. The repo handling is not fully implemented in new em and I personally also have only very little interest in fixing this detail. I think we should concentrate on a composer integration, instead of trying to bring private repositories to EM once more again. This will bring all those features we never had time to implement. I also think that such a common solution will be more beneficial to TYPO3 (both CMS and Flow), than trying to hack up our own stuff. At least, I guess nobody will have to for bigger changes for the EM this week, thus we can safely postpone any discussion about private repositories, etc. till next year. Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – Active contributor TYPO3 CMS TYPO3 inspiring people to share! ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hello, I see that this threat is now going into a different direction. I think the mirroring concept should be changed. What about separating the extension management from extension download? On typo3.org, there should stay the complete management of extensions like version and security handling, documentation and so on. When downloading a file, this could be done by delivering 301-headers to one of the mirrors instead. But this can only work if typo3.org is notified about the sync status of the mirrors. Perhaps it makes things easier if typo3.org has its own download mirror (at ter.typo3.org). If this is an own vhost and separated from the management, its sync should be easier done using rsync or some similar tool. Has anyone here informations on how sourcefourge does the mirroring? Regards, André -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: typo3-english-boun...@lists.typo3.org [mailto:typo3-english-boun...@lists.typo3.org] Im Auftrag von Markus Klein Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2013 15:04 An: 'TYPO3 English' Betreff: Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Hi, do you mean we should hardcode the typo3.org mirror in the Core, or shall we simply modify the mirror-list downloaded by the EM? How often are the mirrors synchronized? Is it possible to synchronize a bit more often? Fetching the list of extensions from t3o but then fetching the actual extension from a mirror which is not yet ready will fail. Purpose of the mirrors is to spread load but it gives other problems such as synchronizing the download counter (does somebody know if this finally works or if only t3o is taken into account?). Do we really encounter so much load that it justifies the overhead of mirrors? Waiting a few hours was not a problem for a long time because we did not have cron jobs to automatically reload the list, to monitor what's going on, to alert if a security release is out, etc. Nowadays, we are getting pinged really quickly when something happens and we see that users expect much more than before with the concept of synced mirror. Or maybe we should delay the notification for a few hours until mirrors are in sync? This leads to other issues :) -- Xavier Perseguers Release Manager TYPO3 4.6 TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org Kind regards Markus Markus Klein TYPO3 CMS Active Contributors Team Member ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi André, André Spindler wrote: Has anyone here informations on how sourcefourge does the mirroring? AFAIK it is not done via sourceforge, but via normal webserver and rsync is used. Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – Active contributor TYPO3 CMS TYPO3 inspiring people to share! ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
Hi, Has anyone here informations on how sourcefourge does the mirroring? AFAIK it is not done via sourceforge, but via normal webserver and rsync is used. Yes, SourceForge is only used for distributing TYPO3 itself, not extensions nor the language packages. Older guys from the server team (I typically think of Michael) should be able to properly answer about the internals. But AFAIK/R it's really a rsync (no clue what is suggested as interval) initiated by the mirrors themselves against typo3.org. -- Xavier Perseguers Release Manager TYPO3 4.6 TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Setting of TER mirror in TYPO3 6.x? Or change mirror concept?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, luckily, also younger ones can answer this :-) I had a look at the TER magic more than a year ago, when typo3.org was relaunched (and the problem with the mirrors forgotten/ignored/whatever). As described, it works by rsync transfers initiated by the mirror servers. And we had the plan to have a ter.typo3.org that will be the new server hosting the TER and maybe even allowing others to just sync from it. Unfortunately, until now everything is very tightly coupled with the typo3.org web site. As the mirrors are not used with the 6.0 EM (correct my if I'm wrong), nobody (at least me) had the motivation to pick up that topic. The really bad thing is that the mirrors don't sync from the new typo3.org server, they really still sync from the old one. One reason is that we would have to contact the mirror admins to change the host name (they all use a .t3o.punkt.de host name) and accept the new SSH key and so on. That (unfortunately) still hasn't happened, from my side because I very much think the that implemented concept is bad. Especially when it comes to download counter, it's horrible (there's a script that was only active on the old typo3.org server that goes through the access log every night and reports the download stats via a SOAP request). With things like composer integration coming sooner or later, I agree that the whole concept has to be rethought. So I agree with André that things should better be implemented differently. But I'm really not sure, what a good solution would be (just use a CDN?) and what the plans from developer's perspective are (probably composer..). Yours Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: http://typo3.org My wish list: https://www.amazon.de/registry/wishlist/922E3JYSQ7CV/ref=cm_wl_sb_v?sort=priority On 10/4/13 1:35 PM, Xavier Perseguers wrote: Hi, Has anyone here informations on how sourcefourge does the mirroring? AFAIK it is not done via sourceforge, but via normal webserver and rsync is used. Yes, SourceForge is only used for distributing TYPO3 itself, not extensions nor the language packages. Older guys from the server team (I typically think of Michael) should be able to properly answer about the internals. But AFAIK/R it's really a rsync (no clue what is suggested as interval) initiated by the mirrors themselves against typo3.org. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJSTvpWAAoJEIskG/rSlyw48wwH/izP5S6z7dLxTgDCIQ8BHCxu FPdGtGxSqrnWpEfhiomkXPD/wYUVuCO4BeMRenh1wdQACa92tyVdtmnVvQFYTwqf r9TJ/sEKW7/PaDIGxkm7wk4VCMr3J4n3dw5UkIbWpD1y6NeSBifVlQBYIzBaM2jC vis0TZv8rnWrvBkmHfgEJsHD3+rl5pnF5Agc9k3GTnIQ0AKJexBe4muu9/VZImdN sETHXcAapq9dLd2smkiGLp3zfQUrEPOzQ9VP1v4nxq96xsSGuEehKrDQDT5VqL2e ahH8TsOJePzyl3achMFWkuorqb9JeLuyyWHE9qGVq4ENkl34c9nAHUghQrfjb9M= =6w7a -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
