Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
Hey, On 08/17/2012 10:51 AM, Frédéric Ollivier wrote: We have almost 100 TYPO3 sites and it becomes very hard to maintain all theses installations up-to-date especially with sec alerts. I'm looking for advices or feedback on good practices. I've seen Caretaker but it seems non active by now. We use caretaker and it is a good solution. We're running the 'server' on a 4.5 instance, and track all other systems with it. Afaik we just fixed minor things, like the core version test that didn't fix our needs, and I think we applied a hack to the extension version test or something. The general code architecture is clean and pretty easy to understand, even with the bad documentation of the project. I know that a lot larger companies use the caretaker, and I'm sure that the project leaders and co-leaders will happily support any action that is taken to fix issues and to further develop the project. Please just get in contact with them and help with patches. The whole project is very cool and it would be great to see some action. Regards Christian ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
Hi, If you're looking for security alerts and extension updates I assume that you do the same as well for the rest of your setup (servers, operating system.. etc), if that's the case I'd say that the nagios extension will bring you the possibility to keep an eye on everything without using different tools for that, which for me is awesome. I use nagios to control almost everything that I have running. ### # Gonzalo Gorosito # Programador sysadmin # # http://www.tutorialesdebian.com - Tutoriales para debianeros, scripts, info, notícias y mucho mas. # http://www.ggorosito.com.ar - Website personal ### On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Christian Kuhn lo...@schwarzbu.ch wrote: Hey, On 08/17/2012 10:51 AM, Frédéric Ollivier wrote: We have almost 100 TYPO3 sites and it becomes very hard to maintain all theses installations up-to-date especially with sec alerts. I'm looking for advices or feedback on good practices. I've seen Caretaker but it seems non active by now. We use caretaker and it is a good solution. We're running the 'server' on a 4.5 instance, and track all other systems with it. Afaik we just fixed minor things, like the core version test that didn't fix our needs, and I think we applied a hack to the extension version test or something. The general code architecture is clean and pretty easy to understand, even with the bad documentation of the project. I know that a lot larger companies use the caretaker, and I'm sure that the project leaders and co-leaders will happily support any action that is taken to fix issues and to further develop the project. Please just get in contact with them and help with patches. The whole project is very cool and it would be great to see some action. Regards Christian ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
On 23/08/12 17:03, Scotty C wrote: Depending on the volume of traffic on your sites, you can put multiple sites on one T3 installation - just set up a good page tree and make use of the domain record in list view. This would of course require a beefy server, but I've found that you can safely run 20 SOHO web sites without problem or security risk. Well, I have no doubt that TYPO3 can handle 20 and more websites on one installation by using domain records and mount points. However, I see a few risks and pitfalls such as increased maintenance work to administer BE user records and permissions (the content of a website is usually maintained by editors... not by the person who set up the TYPO3 site). Apart from this, I am not sure if all clients are happy to share an instance (even they do not recognise it). Some folders *are* shared, e.g. typo3temp, typo3conf, uploads, etc. and contain data from other clients. What would you do if a client wants to move to another server? E.g. a different geographical location or a different hosting provider? Yes, you can use TYPO3's T3D export/import functionality but again, a lot more work than keeping every instance separate. Fredol's original post indicated, that he runs 100 TYPO3 installations and wonders how other keep these installations up-to-date (especially in regards to security alerts). We monitor about 10 servers in various locations around the world (Australia, Singapore, USA and Europe) with Nagios and use the TYPO3 extension nagios to get a warning if an insecure TYPO3 core version or TYPO3 extension is running. Nagios also warns us if the remaining disk space drops below a threshold or if backups are faulty or missing (plus a couple of other checks). Cheers Michael ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
Michael, Depending on the volume of traffic on your sites, you can put multiple sites on one T3 installation - just set up a good page tree and make use of the domain record in list view. This would of course require a beefy server, but I've found that you can safely run 20 SOHO web sites without problem or security risk. -S. From: Michael typo...@schams.net To: typo3-english@lists.typo3.org Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 5:45:54 PM Subject: Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations On 17/08/12 21:18, Rutger Mik | Zeeman Reclamegroep wrote: We have almost 100 TYPO3 sites and it becomes very hard to maintain all theses installations up-to-date especially with sec alerts. We have about 40 sites and I use caretaker for that right now because I could not find anything else that did the trick. You could also have a look at Nagios. This is a more complex but very powerful solution: http://nagios.org/ Nagios allows you to monitor your servers, services, networks, etc. and triggers a warning (e.g. email, text message to your mobile, etc.) if a server/service outage/failure or risk (e.g. remaining disk space) has been detected. Also, Nagios has a web interface to visualise your IT infrastructure (shows list of hosts, services, servicegroups, reports, etc.). A Nagios server in combination with the TYPO3 Extension nagios warns you, if you are running an outdated TYPO3 version or an insecure TYPO3 extension. It also gives you a great list view showing all TYPO3 instances and their TYPO3 versions, if everything is green (OK). http://schams.net/nagios You will also find a list of similar projects (if Nagios is overkilled for your requirements) at http://schams.net/nagios Check out the screenshots :-) Cheers Michael ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
On 17/08/12 21:18, Rutger Mik | Zeeman Reclamegroep wrote: We have almost 100 TYPO3 sites and it becomes very hard to maintain all theses installations up-to-date especially with sec alerts. We have about 40 sites and I use caretaker for that right now because I could not find anything else that did the trick. You could also have a look at Nagios. This is a more complex but very powerful solution: http://nagios.org/ Nagios allows you to monitor your servers, services, networks, etc. and triggers a warning (e.g. email, text message to your mobile, etc.) if a server/service outage/failure or risk (e.g. remaining disk space) has been detected. Also, Nagios has a web interface to visualise your IT infrastructure (shows list of hosts, services, servicegroups, reports, etc.). A Nagios server in combination with the TYPO3 Extension nagios warns you, if you are running an outdated TYPO3 version or an insecure TYPO3 extension. It also gives you a great list view showing all TYPO3 instances and their TYPO3 versions, if everything is green (OK). http://schams.net/nagios You will also find a list of similar projects (if Nagios is overkilled for your requirements) at http://schams.net/nagios Check out the screenshots :-) Cheers Michael ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
Re: [TYPO3-english] Many TYPO3 installations
Hi Fredol, We have about 40 sites and I use caretaker for that right now because I could not find anything else that did the trick. It works OK, but there are a few flaws. For instance, it doesn't give extension update warnings on all extensions. Because of these flaws en bugs, you cannot really count on it. And indeed the project seems to be abandoned. I am interested as well on how to manage large amounts of TYPO3 installations. Kind regards, Rutger Mik Op 17-8-2012 10:51, Frédéric Ollivier schreef: Hi all, We have almost 100 TYPO3 sites and it becomes very hard to maintain all theses installations up-to-date especially with sec alerts. I'm looking for advices or feedback on good practices. I've seen Caretaker but it seems non active by now. Thanks for your help Fredol ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org http://lists.typo3.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/typo3-english
