Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-04 Thread Hendrik

Hi Jigal,

thank you you problem definition is correct i think...
at this point i found out, that the following typoscript is missing 
since the update:


// Example of indexed_search (sysext)
tt_content.list.20.indexed_search = plugin.tx_indexedsearch

That's missing of all other extensions too, but not on tt_news it's 
still there. If i'm adding the lines by hand the extensions working 
again. But this is not the best way for the future.


thank you for your help!



Am 03.08.2011 20:38, schrieb Jigal van Hemert:

Hi,

On 3-8-2011 16:29, Hendrik wrote:

ok, but how can i solve my problem then? :-(


I think that in this case we need a lot more information to start the
investigation.

If I understand you correctly the problem is that if you put a plugin on
a page (in the Page module) it will be rendered in the frontend? Only
the tt_news plugin works that way correctly.
If you put the plugin in the page using Typoscript, all plugins are
displayed in the frontend?

If this is the case there are a couple of things you can start the
investigation:

- which extensions are installed? Are they all up-to-date? Are there any
marked as obsolete? Are they still available in TER? Possible conflicts?
- how is the Typoscript configuration for the the page object? Do you
use TemplaVoilà, automaketemplate or none of these? Is the TS
configuration here still correct?
- Do you use any of the ancient static templates?

The fact that you did an upgrade from 4.2 all the way to 4.5 in one go
makes finding the problem a lot more complicated.



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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-04 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Hi,

On 4-8-2011 8:26, Hendrik wrote:

at this point i found out, that the following typoscript is missing
since the update:

// Example of indexed_search (sysext)
tt_content.list.20.indexed_search = plugin.tx_indexedsearch

That's missing of all other extensions too, but not on tt_news it's
still there. If i'm adding the lines by hand the extensions working
again. But this is not the best way for the future.


These lines are added by the calls to t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43() from 
ext_localconf.php.
The individual ext_localconf.php files are collected (as a simple cache) 
in the typo3conf/temp_CACHED_..._ext_localconf.php files. You will 
recognize them when you take a look in these files.


Can it be that something goes wrong in that collecting mechanism? Maybe 
a construction in one of the extension's ext_localconf.php files which 
was processed correctly in 4.2 and won't work with 4.5 anymore?


If you can't find the problem in the temp_CACHED* files, maybe you can 
send them to me?


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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-04 Thread Hendrik

Hi,

i will send it to you by mail. Thank you very much!

Bye
Henny

Am 04.08.2011 22:11, schrieb Jigal van Hemert:

Hi,

On 4-8-2011 8:26, Hendrik wrote:

at this point i found out, that the following typoscript is missing
since the update:

// Example of indexed_search (sysext)
tt_content.list.20.indexed_search = plugin.tx_indexedsearch

That's missing of all other extensions too, but not on tt_news it's
still there. If i'm adding the lines by hand the extensions working
again. But this is not the best way for the future.


These lines are added by the calls to t3lib_extMgm::addPItoST43() from
ext_localconf.php.
The individual ext_localconf.php files are collected (as a simple cache)
in the typo3conf/temp_CACHED_..._ext_localconf.php files. You will
recognize them when you take a look in these files.

Can it be that something goes wrong in that collecting mechanism? Maybe
a construction in one of the extension's ext_localconf.php files which
was processed correctly in 4.2 and won't work with 4.5 anymore?

If you can't find the problem in the temp_CACHED* files, maybe you can
send them to me?



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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-03 Thread Hendrik

i've found the reason of my problem but not the solution...
the following typoscript ist missing: tt_content.list.20.indexed_search...

tt_news uses the function addPlugin() to register to the Add Plugin 
content element any other extension like indexed search uses 
addPItoST43() that won't work anymore.


but why doesn't this work and how can i solve this?



Am 02.08.2011 17:08, schrieb Hendrik:

Hi,

after Typo3 Update to 4.5.4 (from 4.2.x) no plugin works anymore but
tt_news.

If i'm including the plugin with typoscript like page.5 
plugin.tx_indexedsearch it works fine, but if i'm selecting any other
plugin than tt_news like indexed search the output is empty on the
frontend.

so i've debugged the function / script but they not called or included
by typo3.

why works tt_news and no other extension in the plugin content element?

i'm frustrated, please help!
thanks!

henny


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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-03 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Hi,

On 3-8-2011 10:38, Hendrik wrote:

i've found the reason of my problem but not the solution...
the following typoscript ist missing: tt_content.list.20.indexed_search...

tt_news uses the function addPlugin() to register to the Add Plugin
content element any other extension like indexed search uses
addPItoST43() that won't work anymore.

but why doesn't this work and how can i solve this?


addPItoST43() is a bit of a weird function. It adds the plugin to static 
template with id 43. This template is 'content.default' and has become 
the standard template for content rendering.
To make things a bit easier for extensions this function does some 
housekeeping for the plugin.


It has nothing to do with how the BE modules deal with your extension.

The reason that tt_news might not use this is that it is (like all the 
other tt_* extensions) an extension with very old roots. It installs 
itself in a different way in TYPO3. This is just for historic reasons 
(and to keep backwards compatible with old site setups).


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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-03 Thread Hendrik

ok, but how can i solve my problem then? :-(

thanks

Am 03.08.2011 13:18, schrieb Jigal van Hemert:

Hi,

On 3-8-2011 10:38, Hendrik wrote:

i've found the reason of my problem but not the solution...
the following typoscript ist missing:
tt_content.list.20.indexed_search...

tt_news uses the function addPlugin() to register to the Add Plugin
content element any other extension like indexed search uses
addPItoST43() that won't work anymore.

but why doesn't this work and how can i solve this?


addPItoST43() is a bit of a weird function. It adds the plugin to static
template with id 43. This template is 'content.default' and has become
the standard template for content rendering.
To make things a bit easier for extensions this function does some
housekeeping for the plugin.

It has nothing to do with how the BE modules deal with your extension.

The reason that tt_news might not use this is that it is (like all the
other tt_* extensions) an extension with very old roots. It installs
itself in a different way in TYPO3. This is just for historic reasons
(and to keep backwards compatible with old site setups).



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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-03 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Hi,

On 3-8-2011 16:29, Hendrik wrote:

ok, but how can i solve my problem then? :-(


I think that in this case we need a lot more information to start the 
investigation.


If I understand you correctly the problem is that if you put a plugin on 
a page (in the Page module) it will be rendered in the frontend? Only 
the tt_news plugin works that way correctly.
If you put the plugin in the page using Typoscript, all plugins are 
displayed in the frontend?


If this is the case there are a couple of things you can start the 
investigation:


- which extensions are installed? Are they all up-to-date? Are there any 
marked as obsolete? Are they still available in TER? Possible conflicts?
- how is the Typoscript configuration for the the page object? Do you 
use TemplaVoilà, automaketemplate or none of these? Is the TS 
configuration here still correct?

- Do you use any of the ancient static templates?

The fact that you did an upgrade from 4.2 all the way to 4.5 in one go 
makes finding the problem a lot more complicated.


--
Kind regards / met vriendelijke groet,

Jigal van Hemert.
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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-02 Thread Jigal van Hemert

Hi,

On 2-8-2011 17:08, Hendrik wrote:

after Typo3 Update to 4.5.4 (from 4.2.x) no plugin works anymore but
tt_news.


An upgrade from 4.2 to 4.5 is best done in small steps: 4.2  4.3  4.4 
 4.5.
Make sure you update extensions before each upgrade to the highest 
version which is supported for that particular version of TYPO3.


After each upgrade you should really take a few steps:
- use the upgrade wizard and the database analyzer
- clean the typo3temp directory
- remove the temp_CACHED* files from the typo3conf directory
- clear the caches
- logout and relogin
- test if this update works correctly and fix any issues


why works tt_news and no other extension in the plugin content element?


With so many changes that is hard to say. Make sure you have at least 
performed the cleaning operations listed above and make sure the 
extensions are up-to-date.


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Jigal van Hemert.
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Re: [TYPO3-english] Problem with Content Type LIST (Plugins)

2011-08-02 Thread Hendrik

Hi,

thank you for your advice. The steps you've listed are complety done. 
But the mysterios thing is, that i've also tested to install a new and 
simple extension and it doesn't work too. So only tt_news works fine, 
any other extension not running only in the LIST Type Content Element.


best


Am 02.08.2011 19:56, schrieb Jigal van Hemert:

Hi,

On 2-8-2011 17:08, Hendrik wrote:

after Typo3 Update to 4.5.4 (from 4.2.x) no plugin works anymore but
tt_news.


An upgrade from 4.2 to 4.5 is best done in small steps: 4.2  4.3  4.4
  4.5.
Make sure you update extensions before each upgrade to the highest
version which is supported for that particular version of TYPO3.

After each upgrade you should really take a few steps:
- use the upgrade wizard and the database analyzer
- clean the typo3temp directory
- remove the temp_CACHED* files from the typo3conf directory
- clear the caches
- logout and relogin
- test if this update works correctly and fix any issues


why works tt_news and no other extension in the plugin content element?


With so many changes that is hard to say. Make sure you have at least
performed the cleaning operations listed above and make sure the
extensions are up-to-date.



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