RE: [U2] Unidebugger

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Joslyn
Chuck,
Nope, forgot about that one.  You're right, triggers cannot be used on
directory type files. We did ask IBM for that at the U2UG meeting in Las
Vegas last September.

Their chief argument against them was that you can get to those directory
files from outside U2 anyway.  But I likened that argument to let's leave
the front door wide-open because the back one won't lock.  If we had
triggers for all file types then we could certainly put tracking on
Unidebugger, couldn't we?  And that's worth something even if we have still
left those program directories exposed from UNIX. Because note this -- by
NOT putting in those triggers we have NOT done anything about the fact that
the files can be edited from outside U2. And that protection can be worked
out another way -- or the weakness documented and other mechanisms used to
validate.

To me the most significant argument in its favor is the fact that we want to
allow this on our development machines or accounts.  The live directories
can be locked up tight with UNIX permissions and writes only allowed by
regular software deployment using a librarian login, etc.  The fact that its
wide-open on the development machines is not as big an issue if we control
what gets to the live machine.

Something is better than nothing -- and I'll say again what I've said at
least a thousand times.  SOX didn't come into being to protect against the
kind of folk who can make UNIX edits using vi.  If anyone knows of any case
anywhere, where financial fraud has occurred this way - by a legitimate
employee user (not a hacker, that's a whole different conversation) then I
would love to hear about it.  I'm not saying it should be discounted as a
possibility, just that we shouldn't spend too much time on that -- its like
focusing on a crack in the pavement while the bus is screaming down on us.

I hope that IBM is listening -- and if anyone agrees with me that triggers
are critical in today's IT, please put your two cents in.  (For all file
types, with an efficiency that makes them usable.)

Just full of long stories,
Susan

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:34:57 -0500
From: Stevenson, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidebugger

From: Susan Joslyn
 [snip] Gordon, I would think that you could address it with file
 triggers... any reason why you can't?

triggers wont work on type 19 files.
Programs have to be type 19 files.
Can PRC work around that one?

cds
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RE: [U2] [AD] Unidebugger

2005-02-02 Thread Susan Joslyn
Or there's always PRC -- manages data, software, dict -- any -- mods.
Delivers a complete framework as required by SOX.  Handles the software
life-cycle from request to deployment with a single thread. Nearly 13
years mature and over 1000 installations.  The work is already done and SJ+
makes it their full-time occupation to keep up with requirements and
features so that your IT staff can get back to their real job.  Only it will
be easier than it was before because of the tools and information provided
by PRC at the programmer level.  :)

Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 07:26:32 -
From: Adrian Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidebugger

We use EditPlus with SourceSafe which works well as no-one can change a
program from within Universe or without unless it's been checked out
first.

We developed an add-in (as have others) to make the links to SourceSafe
an integral part of EditPlus so checking status, checking in/out,
promoting to test/pre-prod/prod is all done via a menu/single keystroke.

Before we started using EditPlus we used the command line facilities of
SourceSafe to link into the Universe shell.

Of course, maintaining version control over dictionaries and property
records is a bit trickier as SourceSafe will only work for type 1/19.
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Re: [U2] UniBasic Program with arguments

2005-02-02 Thread brian
Savita,

You do not say whether you are running UniVerse or UniData.
The following will work for UniVerse:

PROGRAM CallingProgram

$OPTIONS PICK
Get(Arg.) FirstArg Else
  FirstArg = 
End
Get(Arg.) SecondArg Else
  SecondArg = 
End
Call YourSubroutine(FirstArg, SecondArg)

This has the advantage that it will take quoted arguments that contain
spaces.


This should work for UniData (from memory - I don't have access to a
copy here):

PROGRAM CallingProgram
TCL = @SENTENCE
Ix = INDEX(TCL, CallingProgram,1) ;* skip over RUN and other
invocation types
TCL = TRIM(TCL[Ix + LEN(CallingProgram)+1, LEN(TCL)])
CONVERT   TO @FM IN TCL
CALL YourSubroutine(TCL1,TCL2)

Brian
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[U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

2005-02-02 Thread Kevin King
Is there a download version of UOJ for Udt 6.0PE?
 
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Re: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments

2005-02-02 Thread Mark Johnson
Here it is, pretty quickly.

Create a Databasic Program, I call mine PRINT (losing regard for PRINT being
there). That is a simple program that takes the @COMMAND or PROCREAD or
TCLREAD line you just typed as the first line in a Basic program, throw an
END at the end, compile and run itself.

Thus, you can have this or virtually any single line program run from TCL.
This is the absolutely best and simplest method. I use this 100's of time a
day for testing the OCONV's, simple math, anything. Its only limitation is
multiple line IF statements or anything with an ELSE.

PRINT ; CALL MY.SUB(ARG1, ARG2, WHATEVER) ; PRINT WHATEVER

PRINT 5+5
PRINT OCONV(12345,DMA)
PRINT ; OPEN MD THEN READ X FROM YOUR.ID THEN WRITEV A ON SOMETHING,
2
PRINT ; FOR I=1 TO 15 STEP 2 ; PRINT I,I*11 ; NEXT I

ED MD PRINT
001 PQN
002 HRUN BP PRINT.PROG
003 P

ED BP PRINT.PROG
001 PROCREAD TEST ELSE STOP
OR
001 TCLREAD TEST
OR
001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
001+ CONVERT CHAR(254) TO   IN TEST
002 OPEN BP TO F.BP ELSE STOP
003 TEST2=END
004 ID=PRINTTT
005 WRITE TEST ON F.BP, ID
006 EXECUTE DECATALOG BP :ID
007 EXECUTE BASIC BP :ID
008 EXECUTE RUN BP :ID

That's it. I created this in 1978 and have written 2 articles about it, one
in Datastream and the other for Spectrum. It should be part of the MV OS.

My 3 cents.

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Subject: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments


 Hi,

 I am trying to run a unibasic program (external subroutine) that takes
 two arguments.
 I don't know how do I pass it the arguments if I run it directly from
 shel prompt instead of calling it from another program.
 I have gone through the manual, but can't find anything. Pls help.

 Thanks
 Savita.
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RE: [U2] Unidebugger

2005-02-02 Thread Adrian Matthews
And also make them work for replicated files as well

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Subject: Re: [U2] Unidebugger

Susan Joslyn wrote...

 You're right, triggers cannot be used on
 directory type files. We did ask IBM for that at the U2UG meeting in
Las
 Vegas last September.

 Their chief argument against them was that you can get to those
 directory files from outside U2 anyway.

I would imagine that that's more of a sales-and-marketing argument.
There's
also the engineering problem of directory files having no header block
to
store the trigger definition in.

 I hope that IBM is listening -- and if anyone agrees with me that
triggers
 are critical in today's IT, please put your two cents in.  (For all
file
 types, with an efficiency that makes them usable.)

But I agree wholeheartedly with this - consider my two cents added.

Simon.
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Maresh, Mel
Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART10/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART10,1/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Mike,

I look forward to hearing your solution!! I never took time to specifically 
diagnose this, but when I have like 10 includes, when in the debugger the line 
being shown could be actually 10 lines off from the actual line being run at 
that point. Not really consistent tho, as when I have only 1 include it isn't 
off. I have just learned to live with this and to use crts when needed to 
'debug' the program when it has lots of includes in it.  

When I reported it, of course the answer was to upgrade, which we aren't 
prepared to do at this time. 

Thanks,

Marilyn A. Hilb 
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Subject:[U2] [UV] RAID debugger

Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

2005-02-02 Thread Wendy Smoak
 Is there a download version of UOJ for Udt 6.0PE?

The UniObjects for Java libraries are included with the Personal
Edition, but there isn't a separate version.

Look for an 'asjava.zip' file (and then immediately rename it to
asjava.jar like it should have been to begin with.)  Partial javadocs
are in there somewhere too, I think.

There's some information about UOJ on the wiki:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JavaSource

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Brenda Price
What version of Universe allows this?

Brenda

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Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART10/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART10,1/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: [U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

2005-02-02 Thread Kevin King
I'm not finding an asjava anything...  Was there an earliest release
where this was included? 

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Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

 Is there a download version of UOJ for Udt 6.0PE?

The UniObjects for Java libraries are included with the Personal
Edition, but there isn't a separate version.

Look for an 'asjava.zip' file (and then immediately rename it to
asjava.jar like it should have been to begin with.)  Partial javadocs
are in there somewhere too, I think.

There's some information about UOJ on the wiki:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JavaSource

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Maresh, Mel
we're on 10.1.4 and I just accidentally discovered it, I think it was 
introduced at 10.0.  It was kept rather quiet.  As Dr. Strangelove said, What 
good is a doomsday machine if you don't tell anyone about it?

Mel

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What version of Universe allows this?

Brenda

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Talking of debuggers,

is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of individual elements 
in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART10/
STRING: T r L=114 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART10,1/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

Mel



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Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

Mike Farrant
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RE: RE: [U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

2005-02-02 Thread Kevin King
Found it.  False alarm. 

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I'm not finding an asjava anything...  Was there an earliest release
where this was included? 

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Subject: RE: [U2] [UD] UOJ for 6PE?

 Is there a download version of UOJ for Udt 6.0PE?

The UniObjects for Java libraries are included with the Personal
Edition, but there isn't a separate version.

Look for an 'asjava.zip' file (and then immediately rename it to
asjava.jar like it should have been to begin with.)  Partial javadocs
are in there somewhere too, I think.

There's some information about UOJ on the wiki:
http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?JavaSource

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Bill H.
Great!  Now if only the runtime engine would tell me a little more about the
Variable Not Assigned a Value, Zero Used (and other such) error(s); like
what variable and what value!  Seems this was requested from Microdata 25
years ago too.  :-)

Bill

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:20 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


 Talking of debuggers,

 is everyone aware that RAID will now display the values of
 individual elements in a dynamic array

 :: D.CHART10/
 STRING: T r L=114
 `34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
 5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
 :: D.CHART10,1/
 STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

 This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.

 Mel



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 Subject: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger


 Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
 up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

 I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
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 source code.

 I look forward to any response

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Peter D Olson
i think 10+

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RE: [U2] Unidebugger

2005-02-02 Thread Phil Walker
All,

I agree with Susan. The argument that you can get at the data anyway from
the OS does not hold up as that is the nature of the environment. Users can
mv, rm, cp files today. They can also use binary editors to 'fix' hashed
files if they want to all, bypassing the traditional UV interface. To do
this IBM would just have to add a .Type19 file to the directory, and modify
the .Type1 - although why there is still a Type 1 file with its restrictions
I do not know. The .Typex file would contain the header information which
normally is in the header of the hashed file - where appropriate. Why we are
at it, why restrict dictionaries to be hashed files - I cannot think of a
reason why they have to be hashed - maybe someone from IBM can tell me.

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Chuck,
Nope, forgot about that one.  You're right, triggers cannot be used on
directory type files. We did ask IBM for that at the U2UG meeting in Las
Vegas last September.

Their chief argument against them was that you can get to those directory
files from outside U2 anyway.  But I likened that argument to let's leave
the front door wide-open because the back one won't lock.  If we had
triggers for all file types then we could certainly put tracking on
Unidebugger, couldn't we?  And that's worth something even if we have still
left those program directories exposed from UNIX. Because note this -- by
NOT putting in those triggers we have NOT done anything about the fact that
the files can be edited from outside U2. And that protection can be worked
out another way -- or the weakness documented and other mechanisms used to
validate.

To me the most significant argument in its favor is the fact that we want to
allow this on our development machines or accounts.  The live directories
can be locked up tight with UNIX permissions and writes only allowed by
regular software deployment using a librarian login, etc.  The fact that its
wide-open on the development machines is not as big an issue if we control
what gets to the live machine.

Something is better than nothing -- and I'll say again what I've said at
least a thousand times.  SOX didn't come into being to protect against the
kind of folk who can make UNIX edits using vi.  If anyone knows of any case
anywhere, where financial fraud has occurred this way - by a legitimate
employee user (not a hacker, that's a whole different conversation) then I
would love to hear about it.  I'm not saying it should be discounted as a
possibility, just that we shouldn't spend too much time on that -- its like
focusing on a crack in the pavement while the bus is screaming down on us.

I hope that IBM is listening -- and if anyone agrees with me that triggers
are critical in today's IT, please put your two cents in.  (For all file
types, with an efficiency that makes them usable.)

Just full of long stories,
Susan

Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:34:57 -0500
From: Stevenson, Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Unidebugger

From: Susan Joslyn
 [snip] Gordon, I would think that you could address it with file
 triggers... any reason why you can't?

triggers wont work on type 19 files.
Programs have to be type 19 files.
Can PRC work around that one?

cds
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[U2] Printronix + HP-Ux + JetDirect

2005-02-02 Thread Brutzman, Bill
We have a legacy Printronix P300 greenbar printer that we would like to
LAN-connect to our new HP-Ux server via an external HP JetDirect print
server.

I took a stab at a few of the generic drivers that come bundled with
HP-Ux... without luck.

Comments would be appreciated.

Regards,

--Bill
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RE: [U2] Printronix + HP-Ux + JetDirect

2005-02-02 Thread George Gallen
Don't treat it as HP Jetdirect, instead, use the printer server in lpd/lpr
mode,
and use rm=printername (with IP set in /etc/hosts), and rq=raw or print or
LPT1
depending on the printer server.

Ours works fine that way.

George

PR1|pr1:\
:ml=0:\
:mx=0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/PR1:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/PR1/PR1.acct:\
:sh:\
:rm=printfast1:\
:rp=PORT1:

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Subject: [U2] Printronix + HP-Ux + JetDirect


We have a legacy Printronix P300 greenbar printer that we would like to
LAN-connect to our new HP-Ux server via an external HP JetDirect print
server.

I took a stab at a few of the generic drivers that come bundled with
HP-Ux... without luck.

Comments would be appreciated.

Regards,

--Bill
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RE: [U2] Printronix + HP-Ux + JetDirect

2005-02-02 Thread Bob Woodward
Sorry, Bill, but I can't resist...  Call HP comes to mind...  You do
have support on the HP-Ux system, don't you?

BobW


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 We have a legacy Printronix P300 greenbar printer that we would like
to
 LAN-connect to our new HP-Ux server via an external HP JetDirect print
 server.
 
 I took a stab at a few of the generic drivers that come bundled with
 HP-Ux... without luck.
 
 Comments would be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 --Bill
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Re: [U2] Printronix + HP-Ux + JetDirect

2005-02-02 Thread Donald Kibbey
use the dumb driver (no thats not a joke) it outputs just plain ol ascii 
which is what that printer will want to deal with.  You can telnet to the jet 
direct and set it up from there.  I've done a few of these and once the 
jetdirect is setup to only send ascii, and the HP-UX system see's it as a 
dumb printer then you'll be fine.

Thanks,



Don Kibbey
Financial Systems Manager
Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett  Dunner LLP


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We have a legacy Printronix P300 greenbar printer that we would like to
LAN-connect to our new HP-Ux server via an external HP JetDirect print
server.

I took a stab at a few of the generic drivers that come bundled with
HP-Ux... without luck.

Comments would be appreciated.

Regards,

--Bill
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Mitchell, Stewart
Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment after
the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Leroy Dreyfuss
Upgrade to the most current release for your platform and you'll find that
is no longer a problem.


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Mike,

The line numbers get messed up in RAID if you have an inline comment after
the include.

This buggers the line numbers

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER  ;*In line comment

and this doesn't

$INCLUDE ARINCLUDE AR.MASTER


Get rid of the in line comment and the line numbers will be correct.

Regards,
Stewart

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Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
source code.

I look forward to any response

Thanks

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[U2] [UV] Spectrum - San Diego

2005-02-02 Thread GarryS
Is anyone going to this event Feb 22-25??
We are moving away from our Web - Universe ODBC connection to a JAVA
sockets or .NET  interface for performance.
It appears that there a quite a few sessions that deal with the
technical issues we need to resolve to move forward with our project.
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RE: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Stewart Leicester
is everyone aware that RAID will now display the 
values of individual elements in a dynamic array

:: D.CHART10/
STRING: T r L=114 
`34321035593806859869452618551232605421692343520675401124
5611372190936940279115843867302197542611598000'
:: D.CHART10,1/
STRING: T r L=10 `3432103559'

This is really cool, something I requested from microdata 25 years ago.
Mel


Great!  Now if only the runtime engine would tell me a little more about the
Variable Not Assigned a Value, Zero Used (and other such) error(s); like
what variable and what value!  Seems this was requested from Microdata 25
years ago too.  :-)
Bill
Microdata had in internal design doc in the mid 
'80s for completely revamping the BASIC debugger. 
It included both the above as well as much more. 
Unfortunately never saw the light of day. Ah 
well...

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Re: [U2] [UV] RAID debugger

2005-02-02 Thread Mark Johnson
Microdata dropped the ball on the INCLUDE 20 years ago which offers this
solution that I use for all of my MCD clients today. Here's the source
snippet

***
* PROGRAM NAME
* MARK JOHNSON 020205
***
GOSUB GET.INCLUDES
OPEN CUSTOMER ETC
snip everything else
GET.INCLUDES:*
INCLUDE THING1
INCLUDE THING2
INCLUDE THING3
RETURN
END (of source code)

Since MCD doesn't allow RUN and external SUBROUTINE programs to intermingle,
I write my handy subs from other clients as INCLUDES and include them at the
end. Just be careful of an imbedded RETURN on THING2 above preventing THING3
from executing.

My 1 cent.
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 Talking of debuggers, can anyone remind me how the $INCLUDE s can mess
 up the line numbers displayed within the RAID debugger.

 I had a solution to this once which I seem to remember had something to
 do with the configuration or placement of the $INCLUDE lines in the
 source code.

 I look forward to any response

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RE: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments

2005-02-02 Thread Trevor Ockenden
In short - you can't.

That is, you need to call it from another program... something like...

0001: CALL XYZ (ARG1, ARG2)
0002: END

Depending upon how you have written this routine it may be possible to
call it from a Dictionary item also but that is for another e-mail.

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
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Hi,

I am trying to run a unibasic program (external subroutine) that takes
two arguments.
I don't know how do I pass it the arguments if I run it directly from
shel prompt instead of calling it from another program.
I have gone through the manual, but can't find anything. Pls help.

Thanks
Savita.
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[U2][UV] Looking for ressource in Montreal, QC Canada

2005-02-02 Thread Ezhno Cheveyo
Hello,
 
Someone I know is looking for an experienced Pick ressource to work in 
Montreal, QC Canada. (Preferably with experience in Universe).   
 
If there is there anyone on this list who lives in that general area and is 
looking for work ?   Please PM me.  
 
 
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Re: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments

2005-02-02 Thread Mark Johnson
Trevor: You gave up too easily. See my posts on PRINT that I've been using
for over 20 years.
My 1 cent
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 In short - you can't.

 That is, you need to call it from another program... something like...

 0001: CALL XYZ (ARG1, ARG2)
 0002: END

 Depending upon how you have written this routine it may be possible to
 call it from a Dictionary item also but that is for another e-mail.

 Cheers

 Trevor Ockenden
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 Hi,

 I am trying to run a unibasic program (external subroutine) that takes
 two arguments.
 I don't know how do I pass it the arguments if I run it directly from
 shel prompt instead of calling it from another program.
 I have gone through the manual, but can't find anything. Pls help.

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[U2] UniData error

2005-02-02 Thread Lembit Pirn
Hi !
After power crash we try to copy from crashed file to the new file and 
we get error messages for crashed groups, but then unusual error message 
showed up as well.
Does anybody know what this error message actually mean:
1:blk check error in U_post_read for file 'IMP', key 'IO*MP
0222145*RDMS_13542_44368%13542%44183', number=147079
UPL error = 104 : Lock name not found
Lockname (46597 22282252) RX -- 79872
upl unlock error(104).
We are running  UniData 6.09 on Solaris.

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RE: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments

2005-02-02 Thread David Jordan
You can run a program with arguments from the command line as below

RUN BP PROG ARG1 ARG2 ARG3

In the program use SEEK(ARG.,..) or GET(ARG.,...) to get the arguments from
the command line.  Don't forget to quote the arguments if there are spaces
in them.

You can run the program with parameters from within a BASIC Program 
EXECUTE RUN BP PROG :arg1: :arg2:  :arg3


Regards
David Jordan
Founding U2UG Board Member



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Subject: RE: [U2] [AD] UniBasic Program with arguments

Thanks all you guys for all your replies. 
This list has come to my rescue so many times. I have so much more to
learn.

I realized that I can run my program (with args) only as one of the
following (without any external utitlity) :
1. as a subroutine (with no args, but can use @COMMAND to read the
command line)
2. as an external subroutine (with args)

If I make it a subroutine, then I cannot call it from another pgm and
pass it args.
If I make external subroutine, I cannot run it from TCL.

Thanks again.

Savita Chauhan, 
Programmer/Analyst
x:1754 Central Texas College.
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