RE: [U2] C-KERMIT in windows
Hi Craig [have you tried downloading Kermit from Columbia University?] I looked at it, but the trial downloads some rental software that needs you to be logged in as administrator to install. I am nervous of this particularly after the problems coming from Sony doing the same thing. I did not want to purchase it, as it was for a one off test. I was just wondering if anyone knew of another product. Kermit 95 seemed the only product for windows. Thanks anyway Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] C-KERMIT in windows
David, have you tried downloading Kermit from Columbia University? http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ regards, Craig --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows {Unclassified}
LeRoy, We migrated from HP-UX to Windows (not quite the question you asked, but I hope still relevant) a couple of years ago. No problems at all with any UniVerse code, but of course all our shell-scripts had to be re-written. Because all of the O/S interaction had been modularised into common service Routines, it was not a major task, although the 'idiosyncrasies' of double-quoted strings in a "DOS -c ..." Call gave us some grief, which you will perhaps remember. Rewriting all the shell scripts (in KixStart, although in retrospect VBScript might have been better) took one Systems Administrator about a month part-time. The UV program changes to call into the changed environment took one programmer about three weeks. If your client's code is sprinkled with "sh -c ..." calls, then it's a whole different question, of course. A month on Development, six or seven weeks on Test, then into Production on the new hardware. Oh yes, and an upgrade from 9.6 to 10.0 at the same time. Why did we do it? Easy - $$$ The entire cost of the new Windows system, including the hardware, all the upgrade costs and annual licensing fees, was less than half the annual maintenance & licensing fee on the HP hardware & software. Or to put it another way, we could have paid two more staff on the annual savings. The bean-counters find that kind of hard to ignore. Oh yes, and our main Payroll took about one-third as long as before. Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Leroy Dreyfuss > Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2005 17:10 > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: Re: [U2] Linux to Windows > >Chuck, >What about porting an app from Linux, which you have been >using for a long time, to Windows, which you haven't >used yet? >That is the situation I am asking about. Did you encounter >any issues doing that? >Why did you choose Windows? >Regards, > >LeRoy F. Dreyfuss >Product Manager >IBM UniVerse and UniData (U2) Extended Relational Databases >Information Management Software > >Tel: 303-773-7783 Fax: 303-773-5915 >Mobile: 720-341-4317 Tie-line: 656-7783 >External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2 > [SNIP] The information contained in this Internet Email message is intended for the addressee only and may contain privileged information, but not necessarily the official views or opinions of the New Zealand Defence Force. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy or distribute this message or the information in it. If you have received this message in error, please Email or telephone the sender immediately. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] A solution for Data Encyption & SOX Compliance
G'day, I've seen this and/or related topics crop up from time to time. If anyone is working on a project to achieve this, it looks like Seagate may have a solution - a new range of disks that operates with hardware based encryption at the controller/disk level. Not sure when these will start hitting the streets (I'm guessing notebook & PC based systems first). From the description I read, a small update to BIOS asks for passwords/keys to the disk at boot time, which are then loaded into base controller registers. If the password means that you decode an operating system from the disk, then system starts If not, then nothing happens. Seems like a "neat" solution to me - full hardware based data encryption of the database (and everything else on the drive) without having to write a single line of code! and with NO performance implications as encrypt/decrypt works at wire speed for data going from/to disk Looks like the major motivator was for data that goes AWOL when a notebook is lost (stolen), but to me it seems like an easy "tick" for one SOX BOX at least :-) Details are probably on Seagate site - I received a physical hard copy update HTH someone Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
Hi Bruce We are a software house that has a client base covering Australia Wide and Opportunity overseas. As we deal with a small application trying to support it over such a base is a nightmare. Whilst our application virtually runs itself, it is the silly things that requires support, "did you plug the monitor into the wall, have you it switched on" you probably know the think. We have a VB client and use uniobjects to connect to the database. I have done some testing of the environment over the Internet and it does not effect performance. So to us hosting sounds a good idea. I have been in discussions with a major ISP to host U2 sites on the Web. Whilst hosting it ourselves is not impossible, having an organization that have staff trained to detect security breaches and who have staff that work 24x7 and can look after backup and recovery lets small ISV focus on the product. We have to educate ISPs who are used to SQL Server and Oracle how to manage a U2 environment, it is a very different and cheaper environment than what they are used to. They will also want a business justification, so if I can find more U2 people who are interested, then they will have a better business justification. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you want some more information. Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0428 669 730 DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Phn: 61 2 9418 8320 Fax: 61 2 9427 2371 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Nichol Sent: Monday, 14 November 2005 8:26 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Linux to Windows Goo'day, David, This intrigues me: At 07:33 14/11/05 +1100, you wrote: >Hi LeRoy > > >An alternative to this is also to host the application centrally and allow >customers to access the application through the internet through VPN. This >is an area we are investigating and due to the nature of U2 this is easier >to achieve than with other database products. In what way do you see either of the U2's permitting "easier" access via VPN? >Regards > >David Jordan >Managing Consultant > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd >www.dacono.com.au > >PO Box 909 >Lane Cove >NSW 2066 >Australia > >Phn: 61 2 9418 8320 >Fax: 61 2 9427 2371 >--- >u2-users mailing list >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 Regards, Bruce Nichol Talon Computer Services ALBURYNSW 2640 Australia http://www.taloncs.com.au Tel: +61 (0)411149636 Fax: +61 (0)260232119 If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Linux to Windows
I am actually looking for feedback from someone that has actually made the switch from Linux to Windows with U2. Feel free to contact me off-list if you like. Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Product Manager IBM UniVerse and UniData (U2) Extended Relational Databases [cid:_2_0B648E700B648C4862CF872570B9] Information Management Software Tel: 303-773-7783 Fax: 303-773-5915 Mobile: 720-341-4317 Tie-line: 656-7783 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
I'd also suggest that they consider putting RealVNC (or similar) on the windows desktops to make life "easier" in terms of support. As others have said/implied, the biggest issues are likely to be with any OS calls/scripts that may be buried in the code, printer & tape setup. None of these are "showstoppers", and unless they are doing something really "funky" in Linux, scripts shouldn't be an issue We move freely back & forth between Windows/Linux, and have a dual development environment. Obviously at the DB level there are no differences, and scripts can be handled easily by first finding, then "exposing" as common subroutine or program >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Results >Sent: Sunday, 13 November 2005 6:00 PM >To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >Subject: Re: [U2] Linux to Windows > >Leroy, > > I choose Windows (XP in this case) because that's what I >have on this laptop. I have to develop wherever I am to meet >the deadlines on this project, so my laptop defines my >options. Also, I'm working with Nucleus' GUI via Accuterm and >Accuterm requires Windows. Without a second system, that means >everything has to be on Windows. > >I've been working both sides of the street for so long >that I don't see the pitfalls anymore. Other than my deep, >deep, deep loathing for deploying printers under Linux (CUPS >is one of the biggest reasons I >*love* SMIT in AIX), I find deployment in both places easy. > >What I find is more critical than deployment is debugging. >Once they get to Windows, they need to think about how they >will support their customers going forward. They need some >in-house expertise that can quickly suss out which problems >are o/s, which are database, and which are application. I >started out in tech support and I know how quickly a design or >deployment choice can turn into a major shift in tech support demand. >I'd suggest they get someone who knows Linux and Windows, >so they can help bring the existing Linux people up to speed >by 'speaking both languages.' that preserves the maximum value >each of their current people can contribute in development and support. > >- Chuck > > >Leroy Dreyfuss wrote: > >>What about porting an app from Linux, which you have been >using for a long time, to Windows, which you haven't used >yet? That is the situation I am asking about. Did you >encounter any issues doing that? Why did you choose Windows? >--- >u2-users mailing list >u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org >To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
Hi Bruce We are working on a deal to support hosting U2 across the internet, if you wish to contact me off list, I can discuss this in greater detail. Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
Goo'day, David, This intrigues me: At 07:33 14/11/05 +1100, you wrote: Hi LeRoy An alternative to this is also to host the application centrally and allow customers to access the application through the internet through VPN. This is an area we are investigating and due to the nature of U2 this is easier to achieve than with other database products. In what way do you see either of the U2's permitting "easier" access via VPN? Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Phn: 61 2 9418 8320 Fax: 61 2 9427 2371 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 Regards, Bruce Nichol Talon Computer Services ALBURYNSW 2640 Australia http://www.taloncs.com.au Tel: +61 (0)411149636 Fax: +61 (0)260232119 If it ain't broke, fix it till it is! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.0/167 - Release Date: 11/11/05 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
Good feedback. Thanks David. Regards, LeRoy F. Dreyfuss Product Manager IBM UniVerse and UniData (U2) Extended Relational Databases [cid:_2_11885728118854D40073FB29872570B8] Information Management Software Tel: 303-773-7783 Fax: 303-773-5915 Mobile: 720-341-4317 Tie-line: 656-7783 External email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2 "David Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/13/2005 01:33 PM Please respond to u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To cc Subject RE: [U2] Linux to Windows Hi LeRoy If the partner is planning to implement on Windows boxes, the question is how much control they can get of the server. We run into problems where another application runs on the box, and I have had 10 minute jobs blow out to 45 minutes. It is important to ensure they have remote access to the box and they should look at using the remote administrator features of Win2003 that runs as a terminal server session. If they are going to implement in small business sites that do not have qualified IT support, and particularly over a large geographic base, they should really explore small business server (This is cheaper, easier to setup for non technical staff (and those with less windows experience) and there are a number of 3rd party consultants that can support this). An alternative to this is also to host the application centrally and allow customers to access the application through the internet through VPN. This is an area we are investigating and due to the nature of U2 this is easier to achieve than with other database products. Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Phn: 61 2 9418 8320 Fax: 61 2 9427 2371 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Linux to Windows
Hi LeRoy If the partner is planning to implement on Windows boxes, the question is how much control they can get of the server. We run into problems where another application runs on the box, and I have had 10 minute jobs blow out to 45 minutes. It is important to ensure they have remote access to the box and they should look at using the remote administrator features of Win2003 that runs as a terminal server session. If they are going to implement in small business sites that do not have qualified IT support, and particularly over a large geographic base, they should really explore small business server (This is cheaper, easier to setup for non technical staff (and those with less windows experience) and there are a number of 3rd party consultants that can support this). An alternative to this is also to host the application centrally and allow customers to access the application through the internet through VPN. This is an area we are investigating and due to the nature of U2 this is easier to achieve than with other database products. Regards David Jordan Managing Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] DACONO Holdings Pty Ltd www.dacono.com.au PO Box 909 Lane Cove NSW 2066 Australia Phn: 61 2 9418 8320 Fax: 61 2 9427 2371 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
