[U2] jBASE : PRINT FMT('6.71509648127128E-02', 'R9') error

2005-12-20 Thread Marco Manyevere
I'm processing numeric data from an excel spreadsheet using jbase and the 
statement PRINT FMT('6.71509648127128E-02', 'R9') gives non numeric value when 
numeric expected.
   
  I have compiled the same statement into a Universe test program and I'm 
getting the expected result of 0.067150965.
   
  Does anyone have suggestions how to get the correct result in jbase? I'm 
reading the excel values using an ADO driver interface and have no way of 
changing how the data is presented to me from the interface.
   
  Thanks for any help, Marco.


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RE: [U2] UltPlus

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Eastwood
UltPlus is still supported by www.ossfl.com 
The UCOPY command allows you to copy between Unix and Ultplus. I forget
the actual syntax but can look deeper if you need it.

Mark


 

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I know this is a U2 group, but I am hoping I can find someone that has
worked on the Ultimate UltPlus system.  We have a client that is running
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RE: [U2] UltPlus

2005-12-20 Thread George Smith
Tom,
It has been a long time since Ultimate, I would suggest you contact Max
at http://www.ossfl.com/aboutus.htm

Max was the support engineer at Ultimate and help me out many times. He
is
Your best bet in my opinion.

George

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I know this is a U2 group, but I am hoping I can find someone that has
worked on the Ultimate UltPlus system.  We have a client that is running
UltPlus and we need some help with accessing Platform files form Basic.

 

Any help or ideas about where to look would be appreciated.

 

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[U2] UltPlus

2005-12-20 Thread Tom Dodds
I know this is a U2 group, but I am hoping I can find someone that has
worked on the Ultimate UltPlus system.  We have a client that is running
UltPlus and we need some help with accessing Platform files form Basic.

 

Any help or ideas about where to look would be appreciated.

 

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RE: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Keith W. Roberts
Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacques G.
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:41 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc

>> We've had code in place for nearly 20 years to
>> handle, at least a little
>> bit, this type of problem.  In fields with lots of
>> text, we call a sub
>> for the input that permits most of the editing
>> commands found in line
>> editors (e.g. c/x/a/, append, etc.)  Not a great
>> solution, but better
>> than retyping all the text.
> 
> I've always coded in MV using input handling routines.
>  The arrows are supported to move about in the input
> field.
> 
> I worked with a client a while back and their
> application only used the BASIC INPUT statement.  This
> caused some garbage data to occasionnally appear in
> their files.

I had the same problem at a prior job, causde by the intense aversion the
original programmers seemed to have to input validation of any sort.  Mostly
it was caused by users doing copy/paste, where the copied data had control
characters in it.  And then there was the entry of "codes" which didn't
exist in the appropriate codes file ... :(

> I was quite surprised to see that not everyone uses
> some kind of input handling routine. That client's
> application wasn't particularly well written either.
> There were gosubs being exited with GOTO's.
> Occasionnally a stack overflow error would appear in
> the Universe error log file.

I don't even want to get started on the evils of returning from a GOSUB via
any method but RETURN (using a flag setting to redirect from that point).

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RE: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
We looked at a product called WIN.FAST. But it only got us about 90% where
we needed to be. They scan each row looking for specific characters to tell
them where headings begin and end, where input fields begin and end. So if
you have very consistent screen content and format, this might work for you.
We have had too many fingers in the pie over the last 20 years. So
consistency is not as good as it should be. In particular, we had some
lookups that occupied multiple rows for one item. Some items had three rows,
others had four rows. There were other anomalies in the display. So they had
trouble figuring out what the user should be allowed to select from this
lookup to bring back to the primary screen.

It also is only pseudo-gui. The mouse can only be used in certain instances.
You still are trying to keep the display in sync with the Unibasic code
behind the GUI. Since it is not really event driven, you can only use the
mouse in certain places.

But it did do a good job of making screens that were consistent look much
better. Menus converted easily. You could setup a terminal type for WinFast
users. So you could put Winfast specific statements in your existing
Unibasic code and still allow green screens to use the same program. 

There was a lot of functionality that they could provide on the client
machine to call windows and web apps from the Unix server (Unibasic
programs). There was little to deploy when you wanted to introduce changes
to screen. Most all manipulation was handled on the server. The client side
just needed to recognize certain characters to trigger GUI like presentation
and execution. 

It did not fit for us, but it might for others.

http://www.gowinfast.com/product.htm

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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:56 AM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Using Esc


Somebody out there has a product for sale which allows you to turn
green-screen apps into gui apps with little to no effort.  They still have a
gs look, so the transition's easy for the user, but you get all the
advantages of being able to do the standard editing in a gui input box, etc.

I can't remember what it's called or who puts it out, and I can't get to the
web to research it right now ... but someone else should recognise what I'm
talking about.

-Keith

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc

> Despite the progress made with conversions from green screen
> to GUI, my
> client base for example is virtually 100% green screen. I've
> been adding a
> few Accuterm GED programs but not to any huge extent.
> 
> I believe that the providers should catch up with the times,
> especially Raining Data and IBM. They should recognize that the
> conversions from green
> screen to GUI do not happen overnight and it is truly an
> extremely large
> undertaking to consider re-writing legacy code for a gui
> interface. I'm not
> talking about re-developing the apps, just trying to make
> them a little more
> modern.
> 
> One client would like their legacy Order Entry app re-written in a GUI
> interface. I'm truly afraid that my cost for this project will be
> prohibitive and that it may never happen. Thus adds another
> frustration. 
> 
> Nothing embarrasses me more than having to explain to a client's new
> employee that they have to re-type the whole answer if they
> spelled Apt 4B
> instead of Apt 4A on a long address line. That tiny piece of
> time starts off
> their relationship on a tremendous backwards note. Granted we
> know that the
> apps are sophisticated underneath. But the employee's
> shrugging shoulders
> speaks volumes.
> 
> Perhaps what I'm hearing is that RD & IBM will turn their back on this
> concept and, like many things, it's in my hands. So I'll re-deploy my
> GET.ANS() subroutine and try to tweak it for my different client's
> environments. Most users are not cut & paste oriented. They
> just want to get
> to the end of 123 East South Street NW, Apt 4B and replace
> the B with an A.
> I don't blame them for condemming the application (and thus
> the database)
> with such a tired user interface.
> 
> MS QuickBasic didn't provide any 
> kind of INPUT
> statement. It actually provided too many INPUT formats so I
> had to write my
> own. Fortunately there were no terminal emulations or other
> 'environments', just DOS.  Now, anyone programming with VB doesn't
> concern 
> themselves one
> bit with these shortcomings. It's part of the environment.
> 
> My 2 cents.
> Mark Johnson
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc
> 
> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input
> @, KeyEdit and
> KeyTrap statements

RE: [U2] @variable for add/delete flags

2005-12-20 Thread u2ug
REPOSTED FOR Phil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I haven't tested this, but you are probably better using the EVENT = 
DELETE check, as the contents of the record could be the empty string, 
however contrived this may sound.


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Date: 2005/12/20 Tue PM 08:36:28 GMT+13:00
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Subject: RE: [U2] @variable for add/delete flags

Further, if the old record is "" and the new record isn't, it's an 
insert. If the new record is "" and the old record isn't, it's a delete. 
And if neither is "", it's an update.

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Re: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Jacques G.
> I am sick of having to
> write filter routines for
> the control characters. It doesn't look good to the
> users either.

On the plus side, many terminal emulators can have
their keyboard re-programmed so that when you press a
key it sends the key that you want.  I've used this
feature to send the proper arrow escape sequences on
bad VT220 emulators.  Once the terminal emulator is
properly configured the setup file for it can become
part of the standard installation procedure for the
user. So if the escape key sends CHAR(251), it can be
changed on the emulator without writing new code.

I know that Hostaccess and Hummingbird allow for
keyboard re-programming.  I've used Accuterm before
but don't remember if you can re-program its keyboard
as well.

On my emulator, I've configured F12 to do:  S^M so
that when I step through the debugger I only need to
press one key.

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RE: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Keith W. Roberts
Somebody out there has a product for sale which allows you to turn
green-screen apps into gui apps with little to no effort.  They still have a
gs look, so the transition's easy for the user, but you get all the
advantages of being able to do the standard editing in a gui input box, etc.

I can't remember what it's called or who puts it out, and I can't get to the
web to research it right now ... but someone else should recognise what I'm
talking about.

-Keith

Original Message
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc

> Despite the progress made with conversions from green screen
> to GUI, my
> client base for example is virtually 100% green screen. I've
> been adding a
> few Accuterm GED programs but not to any huge extent.
> 
> I believe that the providers should catch up with the times,
> especially Raining Data and IBM. They should recognize that the
> conversions from green
> screen to GUI do not happen overnight and it is truly an
> extremely large
> undertaking to consider re-writing legacy code for a gui
> interface. I'm not
> talking about re-developing the apps, just trying to make
> them a little more
> modern.
> 
> One client would like their legacy Order Entry app re-written in a GUI
> interface. I'm truly afraid that my cost for this project will be
> prohibitive and that it may never happen. Thus adds another
> frustration. 
> 
> Nothing embarrasses me more than having to explain to a client's new
> employee that they have to re-type the whole answer if they
> spelled Apt 4B
> instead of Apt 4A on a long address line. That tiny piece of
> time starts off
> their relationship on a tremendous backwards note. Granted we
> know that the
> apps are sophisticated underneath. But the employee's
> shrugging shoulders
> speaks volumes.
> 
> Perhaps what I'm hearing is that RD & IBM will turn their back on this
> concept and, like many things, it's in my hands. So I'll re-deploy my
> GET.ANS() subroutine and try to tweak it for my different client's
> environments. Most users are not cut & paste oriented. They
> just want to get
> to the end of 123 East South Street NW, Apt 4B and replace
> the B with an A.
> I don't blame them for condemming the application (and thus
> the database)
> with such a tired user interface.
> 
> MS QuickBasic didn't provide any 
> kind of INPUT
> statement. It actually provided too many INPUT formats so I
> had to write my
> own. Fortunately there were no terminal emulations or other
> 'environments', just DOS.  Now, anyone programming with VB doesn't
> concern 
> themselves one
> bit with these shortcomings. It's part of the environment.
> 
> My 2 cents.
> Mark Johnson
> - Original Message -
> From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc
> 
> 
>> Mark,
>> 
>> AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input
> @, KeyEdit and
> KeyTrap statements. It is however pretty horrible.
>> 
>> You can't blame the vendors for this one though. The
> problem has been the
> mindset of a community that hasn't shared code (how many
> virtually identical
> menu runners or input subroutines have I seen over the years)
> even though
> the runtime binding model of external subroutines makes it so easy...
>> 
>>  I doubt the vendors would be interested in extending a 20
> year old text
> interface when you can download the free VB 2005 Express,
> UO.Net and do it
> all properly ...
>> 
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: "Mark Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:
>> 19/12/05 05:25:10 To: "u2-usChis case MS got it right. Every
>> input 
> behaves very much
> like every other
>> with the special keys.
>> 
>> I believe that this should be accomplished by the providers
>> themselves, ie Raining Data and IBM in their future releases.
>> They 
> already interpet
> the
>> TERM setting and it would remove the differences. I
> took my GET.ANS
> and
>> tried to fit it on Accuterm and couldn't get the proper
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Re: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Jacques G.
> We've had code in place for nearly 20 years to
> handle, at least a little 
> bit, this type of problem.  In fields with lots of
> text, we call a sub 
> for the input that permits most of the editing
> commands found in line 
> editors (e.g. c/x/a/, append, etc.)  Not a great
> solution, but better 
> than retyping all the text.

I've always coded in MV using input handling routines.
 The arrows are supported to move about in the input
field.  

I worked with a client a while back and their
application only used the BASIC INPUT statement.  This
caused some garbage data to occasionnally appear in
their files.  

I was quite surprised to see that not everyone uses
some kind of input handling routine. That client's
application wasn't particularly well written either. 
There were gosubs being exited with GOTO's. 
Occasionnally a stack overflow error would appear in
the Universe error log file.






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RE: [U2] Dataflo missing Workfile

2005-12-20 Thread Steve Moore
Here is a copy of techtip 1149SDG from Epicor's eportal support website.
I think it describes your problem.

HTH,

Steve

Summary:  Finding/Fixing the 0 length work file in unidata
Detail:  work file

**
*** Tech Tip No.: 1149
*** Summary: Finding/Fixing the 0 length work file in unidata

**

Finding and fixing the work file Size 0 problem in Unidata.

Problem: the user logs on to DATAFLO without a problem but when they go
to an Entry screen PREVIEW informs them that they are missing a workfile
and the screen will be Inquiry Only.

1. Find the Port# or User# :

The user must stay logged on. If you are at the terminal with the
problem, go to TCL. If you can't, 
run the report "List Active Users" (SYS-U-20), to get the port number.
The PV Port# is the first field.

:DW.WHO 

User Name : John Doe
User Number : 055 
Account Name : DF-SERVICE 

TERM Driver : WINTEGRATE.GUI 
TERM Type : vt100 
PTR Driver : Tech-Support 
SLAVE Driver : 

My User# is 055.
Note: The User# is 3 digits, you may need to pad the front with 0's.

2. Find the path to the Workfile. If you save it in the Clipboard you
can save some typing by pasting it in later.

:ED VOC PV055 

The help file 'AE_DOC', is not available. Please ask your 
system administrator to put a file pointer in your VOC file. 

Top of "PV055" in "VOC", 3 lines, 58 characters. 
*--: P 
001: LF 
002: /dbms/live/DW-GLOBAL/PV055 
003: /dbms/live/DW-GLOBAL/D_PV055 
Bottom. 
*--: EX 
Quit "PV055" in file "VOC" unchanged. 

3. Go to the unix shell and find the problem file, it will be the one
that is size 0, usually this is L1, use !sh to go to the shell and cd to
go to the DW-GLOBAL directory (your path may be different then the
example), and ls -lasi to list the files:

:! sh 
$ cd /dbms/live/DW-GLOBAL/PV055 
$ ls -lasi 
total 332 
-- Size
8913 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 dw dw 1024 Jun 27 08:34 . 
7392 246 drwxrwxr-x 3090 dw 117760 Oct 2 11:05 .. 
8914 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 19 1997 L0 
8915 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 0 Dec 9 06:56 L1 <===
8916 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 8 10:24 L2 
8917 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 7 11:16 L3 
8918 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Oct 23 11:04 L4 
8919 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Apr 29 1998 L5 
56999 4 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 2048 Jun 27 08:34 L6 
8920 32 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 16384 Dec 1 05:58 PV055

4. In this example the problem file is the L1 file (note the size is 0).
Copy another work file to it using the unix copy (cp) command:

cp /dbms/live/DW-GLOBAL/PV055/L2 /dbms/live/DW-GLOBAL/PV055/L1

5. List the files again to make sure the file has a size:

$ ls -lasi 
total 332 
8913 2 drwxrwxr-x 2 dw dw 1024 Jun 27 08:34 . 
7392 246 drwxrwxr-x 3090 dw 117760 Oct 2 11:05 .. 
8914 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 19 1997 L0 
8915 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 9 06:56 L1 
8916 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 8 10:24 L2 
8917 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Dec 7 11:16 L3 
8918 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Oct 23 11:04 L4 
8919 8 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 4096 Apr 29 1998 L5 
56999 4 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 2048 Jun 27 08:34 L6 
8920 32 -rwxrwxr-x 1 dw dw 16384 Dec 1 05:58 PV055

6. You are done, exit the unix shell to return to Unidata.

$ exit

   

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Re: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Drew Henderson
We've had code in place for nearly 20 years to handle, at least a little 
bit, this type of problem.  In fields with lots of text, we call a sub 
for the input that permits most of the editing commands found in line 
editors (e.g. c/x/a/, append, etc.)  Not a great solution, but better 
than retyping all the text.


Drew

Mark Johnson wrote:


Despite the progress made with conversions from green screen to GUI, my
client base for example is virtually 100% green screen. I've been adding a
few Accuterm GED programs but not to any huge extent.

I believe that the providers should catch up with the times, especially
Raining Data and IBM. They should recognize that the conversions from green
screen to GUI do not happen overnight and it is truly an extremely large
undertaking to consider re-writing legacy code for a gui interface. I'm not
talking about re-developing the apps, just trying to make them a little more
modern.

One client would like their legacy Order Entry app re-written in a GUI
interface. I'm truly afraid that my cost for this project will be
prohibitive and that it may never happen. Thus adds another frustration.

Nothing embarrasses me more than having to explain to a client's new
employee that they have to re-type the whole answer if they spelled Apt 4B
instead of Apt 4A on a long address line. That tiny piece of time starts off
their relationship on a tremendous backwards note. Granted we know that the
apps are sophisticated underneath. But the employee's shrugging shoulders
speaks volumes.

Perhaps what I'm hearing is that RD & IBM will turn their back on this
concept and, like many things, it's in my hands. So I'll re-deploy my
GET.ANS() subroutine and try to tweak it for my different client's
environments. Most users are not cut & paste oriented. They just want to get
to the end of 123 East South Street NW, Apt 4B and replace the B with an A.
I don't blame them for condemming the application (and thus the database)
with such a tired user interface.

MS QuickBasic didn't provide any  kind of INPUT
statement. It actually provided too many INPUT formats so I had to write my
own. Fortunately there were no terminal emulations or other 'environments',
just DOS.  Now, anyone programming with VB doesn't concern themselves one
bit with these shortcomings. It's part of the environment.

My 2 cents.
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc


 


Mark,

AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input @, KeyEdit and
   


KeyTrap statements. It is however pretty horrible.
 


You can't blame the vendors for this one though. The problem has been the
   


mindset of a community that hasn't shared code (how many virtually identical
menu runners or input subroutines have I seen over the years) even though
the runtime binding model of external subroutines makes it so easy...
 


I doubt the vendors would be interested in extending a 20 year old text
   


interface when you can download the free VB 2005 Express, UO.Net and do it
all properly ...
 


Brian


-Original Message-
   From: "Mark Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Sent: 19/12/05 05:25:10
   To: "u2-usChis case MS got it right. Every input behaves very much
   


like every other
 


   with the special keys.

   I believe that this should be accomplished by the providers
   


themselves, ie
 


   Raining Data and IBM in their future releases. They already interpet
   


the
 


   TERM setting and it would remove the differences. I took my GET.ANS
   


and
 


   tried to fit it on Accuterm and couldn't get the proper backspace.
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Re: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Mark Johnson
Despite the progress made with conversions from green screen to GUI, my
client base for example is virtually 100% green screen. I've been adding a
few Accuterm GED programs but not to any huge extent.

I believe that the providers should catch up with the times, especially
Raining Data and IBM. They should recognize that the conversions from green
screen to GUI do not happen overnight and it is truly an extremely large
undertaking to consider re-writing legacy code for a gui interface. I'm not
talking about re-developing the apps, just trying to make them a little more
modern.

One client would like their legacy Order Entry app re-written in a GUI
interface. I'm truly afraid that my cost for this project will be
prohibitive and that it may never happen. Thus adds another frustration.

Nothing embarrasses me more than having to explain to a client's new
employee that they have to re-type the whole answer if they spelled Apt 4B
instead of Apt 4A on a long address line. That tiny piece of time starts off
their relationship on a tremendous backwards note. Granted we know that the
apps are sophisticated underneath. But the employee's shrugging shoulders
speaks volumes.

Perhaps what I'm hearing is that RD & IBM will turn their back on this
concept and, like many things, it's in my hands. So I'll re-deploy my
GET.ANS() subroutine and try to tweak it for my different client's
environments. Most users are not cut & paste oriented. They just want to get
to the end of 123 East South Street NW, Apt 4B and replace the B with an A.
I don't blame them for condemming the application (and thus the database)
with such a tired user interface.

MS QuickBasic didn't provide any  kind of INPUT
statement. It actually provided too many INPUT formats so I had to write my
own. Fortunately there were no terminal emulations or other 'environments',
just DOS.  Now, anyone programming with VB doesn't concern themselves one
bit with these shortcomings. It's part of the environment.

My 2 cents.
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] Using Esc


> Mark,
>
> AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input @, KeyEdit and
KeyTrap statements. It is however pretty horrible.
>
> You can't blame the vendors for this one though. The problem has been the
mindset of a community that hasn't shared code (how many virtually identical
menu runners or input subroutines have I seen over the years) even though
the runtime binding model of external subroutines makes it so easy...
>
>  I doubt the vendors would be interested in extending a 20 year old text
interface when you can download the free VB 2005 Express, UO.Net and do it
all properly ...
>
>
> Brian
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Mark Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 19/12/05 05:25:10
> To: "u2-usChis case MS got it right. Every input behaves very much
like every other
> with the special keys.
>
> I believe that this should be accomplished by the providers
themselves, ie
> Raining Data and IBM in their future releases. They already interpet
the
> TERM setting and it would remove the differences. I took my GET.ANS
and
> tried to fit it on Accuterm and couldn't get the proper backspace.
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RE: [U2] Dataflo missing Workfile

2005-12-20 Thread David Wolverton
Wow -- although Nabble may be snatching the content right out of our List,
it's a pretty nice interface!  And the U2 group is like the 5th most active
list in databases (much like CDP has always been pretty active, I guess)

As for this issue, it's vendor specific -- your vendor has built Work Files
they expect to have a certain naming convention -- you can probably find
them by searching your data account file - in our case, the works files are
called HRPS.WORK.portno.  The only time users have had problems are where
the VOC entry for the Work File existed, but the actual underlying file did
not. But as the use of work files is not defined by the O/S or the Database,
but more by the application, you need another DataFlo user or vendor to
confirm what files should be in place. Caveat! But if you editted the VOC
for that file, and looked for the DICT and DATA it wants, one of them (or
both) are gone from the hard drive.

This happened in our work files from time to time -- we actually made our
work file open logic handle this case by removing the offending VOC and
rebuilding from scratch - but who would pre-anticipate the VOC entry
existing while the underlying database file was gone?!?  It just happened
enough to that they made the change in our product.

David W.

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Subject: [U2] Dataflo missing Workfile

A month ago the UPS on our UNIX box running Dataflo with Preview/Wintegrate
went out.  After repairing and coming back up, we noticed that users on port
(UDTNO) 8 and 18 got the message "Cannot Update without WORKFILE - Inquiries
Only" at the bottom of their screen.  Is there a way to restore the
workfiles for these ports and how do I know what their names are?  is there
a TCL command or a PV command to reset workfiles?  Any help would be
appreciated!! 
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Re: [U2] Using Esc

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Leach
Mark,

AFAIR UV does provide cursor driven input - see the Input @, KeyEdit and 
KeyTrap statements. It is however pretty horrible.

You can't blame the vendors for this one though. The problem has been the 
mindset of a community that hasn't shared code (how many virtually identical 
menu runners or input subroutines have I seen over the years) even though the 
runtime binding model of external subroutines makes it so easy...

 I doubt the vendors would be interested in extending a 20 year old text 
interface when you can download the free VB 2005 Express, UO.Net and do it all 
properly ...


Brian


-Original Message-
From: "Mark Johnson"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 19/12/05 05:25:10
To: "u2-usChis case MS got it right. Every input behaves very much like 
every other
with the special keys.

I believe that this should be accomplished by the providers themselves, ie
Raining Data and IBM in their future releases. They already interpet the
TERM setting and it would remove the differences. I took my GET.ANS and
tried to fit it on Accuterm and couldn't get the proper backspace.
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[U2] Haydon Bishop is out of the office.

2005-12-20 Thread haydon . bishop
I will be out of the office starting  20/12/2005 and will not return until
23/12/2005.

I will respond to your message when I return.


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Re: [U2] Small FootPrint MultiValue

2005-12-20 Thread Results
   I was just reminded that jBASE also has a free option. You can 
download a (not for commercial use) evaluation version and get a one 
year rolling single user license without paying a cent.


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