RE: [U2] version control
David You might want to check out an article I wrote for Spectrum about this. Back-issues are on www.intl-spectrum.com. One other tip: We used CVS at my last company, which was quite a complex arrangement handling server and client side code (and keeping these in sync). The key was to appoint someone who was responsible for it. If it is anything more than trivial, it needs someone charged to administer it, not just left to the whims of developers! That was the best decision we made... Regards Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Beahm Sent: 16 April 2008 21:22 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] version control We are looking to add our UniData/SBClient environment to Subversion, and wanted to get advice from anyone who has done s something similar (CVS, etc.) Searching through past posts, I found Brian Leach's note about generating DICT items from scripts, which I quite like; I suspect there are more ideas like that around. First, however, we need to come up with a suitable repository structure. We have a number of live, proto, and development accounts on one box (HP-UX). We have some universally shared directory files, but most files are unique to each account. To begin with, we are wondering whether it would be best to have individual repositories for each account, or whether there should be one repository with relative paths for each account, or whether each account should be a different branch, etc. Suggestions welcome, however we are want to standardize on one solution -- Subversion. Thanks, David Beahm --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] version control
It seems that everyone needs to be a specialist these days, even in our business. Jerry Banker Senior Programmer Analyst IBM Certified Solutions Expert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:14 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] version control David You might want to check out an article I wrote for Spectrum about this. Back-issues are on www.intl-spectrum.com. One other tip: We used CVS at my last company, which was quite a complex arrangement handling server and client side code (and keeping these in sync). The key was to appoint someone who was responsible for it. If it is anything more than trivial, it needs someone charged to administer it, not just left to the whims of developers! That was the best decision we made... Regards Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Beahm Sent: 16 April 2008 21:22 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] version control We are looking to add our UniData/SBClient environment to Subversion, and wanted to get advice from anyone who has done s something similar (CVS, etc.) Searching through past posts, I found Brian Leach's note about generating DICT items from scripts, which I quite like; I suspect there are more ideas like that around. First, however, we need to come up with a suitable repository structure. We have a number of live, proto, and development accounts on one box (HP-UX). We have some universally shared directory files, but most files are unique to each account. To begin with, we are wondering whether it would be best to have individual repositories for each account, or whether there should be one repository with relative paths for each account, or whether each account should be a different branch, etc. Suggestions welcome, however we are want to standardize on one solution -- Subversion. Thanks, David Beahm --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] version control
David, We use CVS here. We store all of our source code in a flat file/directory structure. We use an OS level build script to generate the accounts, create the files and dictionaries, and load them with data. The primary goal in our situation was to create a one-step build for our product, where the entire product would be generated from the ground up. Patches for production systems are created by diff'ing the prior and current release. We keep each account as separate CVS module, but it doesn't really matter; all accounts could have been in the same module if we designed it that way. The structure we have is: account/src/filename/DATA/record account/src/filename/DICT/record for example, the dict item NAME for the CUSTOMERS file would be stored in AR/src/CUSTOMERS/DICT/NAME Where the src and DICT directories provide metadata for the build script, i.e. src contains U2 files to create (in this case CUSTOMERS), and the load DICT portion of the file with the source item NAME. Note that we could have structured this a lot of different ways to get the same result. File type, modulo, and separation are also stored as metadata; for the CUSTOMERS dictionary file above, it would be stored in AR/src/CUSTOMERS/DICT/_FILE_SIZE. Gotcha's: Depending on Windows vs. Unix, certain filenames or characters within the filename need to be encoded, e.g. CON and AUX conflict with the DOS command line, and * and can also have special meaning. Universe uses %A for an asterisk, etc. and you'll need to do something similar (you could write a function that uses url encoding that also encodes DOS keywords). Suggestion: I wrote an ACCOUNT2DIR utility to create our flat file/directory structure. I was able to tweak it and rerun it until I got the strucure I liked. I suggest that you do something similar so you can easily tryout different structures. rex David Beahm wrote: We are looking to add our UniData/SBClient environment to Subversion, and wanted to get advice from anyone who has done something similar (CVS, etc.) Searching through past posts, I found Brian Leach's note about generating DICT items from scripts, which I quite like; I suspect there are more ideas like that around. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
[U2] Unidata @LOGNAME
Under Unidata 7.1.x on Solaris (9/10) we're seeing @LOGNAME truncated to 8 characters. Others on different OSes are not seeing this behavior. Does anyone know if this is a Unidata setting or how Unidata is interacting with a system call (eg: and therefor cannot be changed)? -- Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-559-5556 Consultants don't necessarily know more than you, they just get paid more than you. Me --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] version control
Jerry et al I would say good version control - like all code management - is a skill. And more so the more diverse your code base. If you are just hacking away at (say) an old D3 application you can probably get away with a lot. If you need to support multiple versions, platforms, client/server and web tiers, probably half a dozen languages, shared libraries etc. the work involved in just managing that should not be - and all too often is by management - underestimated. Hence my comment. This should not be something that is just put in without thought and left to run by itself. It won't. Time taken to plan this now will pay huge dividends down the line. Time not spent will bite you in the bum. A badly put together versioning system is worse than useless - you won't be able to get out what you need at time of crisis, and you will have become complacent thinking that it is there. In our case we had an excellent developer and DBA who took on the role of managing the version control, and did it extremely well. I'm very thankful, especially when we needed his services. Without one person to manage it, it would have become a mess. I would probably have been the worse culpit. You only really appreciate these things once you've been burned without them (like a good and verified backup strategy!). They need to be approached seriously. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JPB-U2UG Sent: 17 April 2008 13:54 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] version control It seems that everyone needs to be a specialist these days, even in our business. Jerry Banker Senior Programmer Analyst IBM Certified Solutions Expert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:14 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] version control David You might want to check out an article I wrote for Spectrum about this. Back-issues are on www.intl-spectrum.com. One other tip: We used CVS at my last company, which was quite a complex arrangement handling server and client side code (and keeping these in sync). The key was to appoint someone who was responsible for it. If it is anything more than trivial, it needs someone charged to administer it, not just left to the whims of developers! That was the best decision we made... Regards Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Beahm Sent: 16 April 2008 21:22 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] version control We are looking to add our UniData/SBClient environment to Subversion, and wanted to get advice from anyone who has done s something similar (CVS, etc.) Searching through past posts, I found Brian Leach's note about generating DICT items from scripts, which I quite like; I suspect there are more ideas like that around. First, however, we need to come up with a suitable repository structure. We have a number of live, proto, and development accounts on one box (HP-UX). We have some universally shared directory files, but most files are unique to each account. To begin with, we are wondering whether it would be best to have individual repositories for each account, or whether there should be one repository with relative paths for each account, or whether each account should be a different branch, etc. Suggestions welcome, however we are want to standardize on one solution -- Subversion. Thanks, David Beahm --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] uo.net logging
Hi thanks, unfortunately the switches section is not valid in web.config, I remember it was a simple change, If only I could remember exactly what it was ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hona, David S Sent: 16 April 2008 09:26 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] uo.net logging I don't know about asp.net, but in my vb.net app.config that is using uo.net, I have (no doubt actually cloned from another app, probably IBM supplied sample!): ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ? configuration !-- UO.NET General addkey=SocketTimeOut value=30 / /General PerformanceMonitor addkey=BusyConnectionCounter value=0/ /PerformanceMonitor /UO.NET -- system.diagnostics switches !-- Set value property of the TraceMethods switch to one of the following: 0 (false) or 1 (true) -- add name=UniBooleanSwitch value=1 / !-- Set value property of the Arithmetic switch to one of the following: 1(error), 2(warning), 3(info), 4(verbose) -- add name=UniTraceSwitch value=3 / /switches trace autoflush=true indentsize=4 listeners !-- add name=UniListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener, UODOTNET version=1.0.* Culture=neutral initializeData=c:\myListener.log / -- !-- add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\temp\myListener.log / -- add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\temp\myListener.log / /listeners /trace /system.diagnostics /configuration David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:30 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] uo.net logging Can someone remind me what entries to put in the web.config for an asp.net app that uses uo.net to write the uo.net trace file b I know it was something to do with trace and listeners but can not find my old example anywhere b. Thanks Symeon. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] uo.net logging
Symeon, I use the following chunk of code in my asp.net web.config and it works fine. I do not have any problem with the switches tag. It is a sub-element of configuration. HTH, Mike system.diagnostics sources source name=DefaultSource switchName=DefaultSwitch listeners add name=myListener/ /listeners /source /sources switches add name=UniTraceSwitch value=4 / /switches sharedListeners add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\inetpub\wwwroot\myListener.log / /sharedListeners trace autoflush=true indentsize=4 listeners add name=myListener / /listeners /trace /system.diagnostics Michael Dallaire Senior Applications Developer IBM Certified Solutions Expert Mortgage Builder Software, Inc. Phone: (248) 304-0600 x 103 Fax: (248) 304-0601 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mortgagebuilder.com Providing Outstanding Support It's more than just a company philosophy; it's a whole corporate culture whose foundation is service. Confidentiality Notice This transmission may contain confidential information which is intended for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If received in error, please reply to the sender immediately. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:15 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] uo.net logging Hi thanks, unfortunately the switches section is not valid in web.config, I remember it was a simple change, If only I could remember exactly what it was ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hona, David S Sent: 16 April 2008 09:26 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] uo.net logging I don't know about asp.net, but in my vb.net app.config that is using uo.net, I have (no doubt actually cloned from another app, probably IBM supplied sample!): ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ? configuration !-- UO.NET General addkey=SocketTimeOut value=30 / /General PerformanceMonitor addkey=BusyConnectionCounter value=0/ /PerformanceMonitor /UO.NET -- system.diagnostics switches !-- Set value property of the TraceMethods switch to one of the following: 0 (false) or 1 (true) -- add name=UniBooleanSwitch value=1 / !-- Set value property of the Arithmetic switch to one of the following: 1(error), 2(warning), 3(info), 4(verbose) -- add name=UniTraceSwitch value=3 / /switches trace autoflush=true indentsize=4 listeners !-- add name=UniListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener, UODOTNET version=1.0.* Culture=neutral initializeData=c:\myListener.log / -- !-- add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\temp\myListener.log / -- add name=myListener type=System.Diagnostics.TextWriterTraceListener initializeData=c:\temp\myListener.log / /listeners /trace /system.diagnostics /configuration David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 5:30 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] uo.net logging Can someone remind me what entries to put in the web.config for an asp.net app that uses uo.net to write the uo.net trace file b I know it was something to do with trace and listeners but can not find my old example anywhere b. Thanks Symeon. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] TCL Command stacker
I know That is why I said it looked promising. :-) IE was able to get it to work but it was definitely not ready to be recommended until I understood the nuances. Thanks for the heads up, Doug At 04:18 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote: Before you propose to a customer, make sure their terminal emulator and COMMAND.EDITOR play well together. I guess there are some tricks to smooth out things between AT2k and COMMAND.EDITOR. I put COMMAND.EDITOR ON ALL in my login PA and that was the end of my cursor keys and num pad. fwiw --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Unidata @LOGNAME
If I remember correctly, Solaris only looks at the first 8 characters as the user name and the password. If you have a password longer than 8 characters you're wasting keystrokes. I don't know if there is a setting to change it. Jerry Banker Senior Programmer Analyst IBM Certified Solutions Expert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Butera Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:12 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Unidata @LOGNAME Under Unidata 7.1.x on Solaris (9/10) we're seeing @LOGNAME truncated to 8 characters. Others on different OSes are not seeing this behavior. Does anyone know if this is a Unidata setting or how Unidata is interacting with a system call (eg: and therefor cannot be changed)? -- Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-559-5556 Consultants don't necessarily know more than you, they just get paid more than you. Me --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] version control
David, One other item: in managing development, testing, and production accounts, I've found it easier to use relative Q-pointers in the software. So instead setting the Q-pointer: CUSTOMERS 0001: Q 0002: AR 0003: CUSTOMERS set it up to use a relative pathname: CUSTOMERS 0001: Q 0002: ../AR 0003: CUSTOMERS Every developer can maintain their own unique directory with their own copy of the account(s) they need, without having to setup a STEVE.AR, BOB.AR, or JIM.AR account. rex David Beahm wrote: First, however, we need to come up with a suitable repository structure. We have a number of live, proto, and development accounts on one box (HP-UX). We have some universally shared directory files, but most files are unique to each account. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Unidata @LOGNAME
quote who='JPB-U2UG' date='Thursday 17 April 2008' If I remember correctly, Solaris only looks at the first 8 characters as the user name and the password. If you have a password longer than 8 characters you're wasting keystrokes. I don't know if there is a setting to change it. You're correct on the password but since Solaris allows usernames longer than 8 we were surprised that @LOGNAME wasn't returning them. I'll assume it a Solaris system call that Unidata is using to populate @LOGNAME. -- Jeff Butera, Ph.D. Administrative Systems Hampshire College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 413-559-5556 Consultants don't necessarily know more than you, they just get paid more than you. Me --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
