RE: [U2] [UV] [UB] Equating Two Arrays in UniBasic

2008-07-11 Thread Edward Brown
Hi

If they're dimensioned, i.e.

DIM A(10)
DIM B(10)

Then you can do

MAT B = MAT A

to copy one to the other. There's complications when the dim size is
different but this is all documented...

Ed

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Is R.New or R.SOD being declared as a dimensioned array somewhere? 

If both are dynamic arrays, there should be no problem.

I get the error you describe if I try to assign a dimensioned array to a

dynamic array variable, such as:
0001: DIM X(100)
0002: Y=
0003: X=Y

The other way around produces a different error.  So, it would seem to 
me that R.SOD is dimensioned, except that when I add in the read, I get 
FROM unexpected, Was expecting: '(' on the read in addition to the 
Array must have subscripts error on the assignment.

Brutzman, Bill wrote:

It is not letting me do it.

When I try something like... 

   read R.SOD from F.SOH, Order.ID  else  R.SOD = ''

  R.New = ''
  R.New = R.SOD

The compiler says... Error... Array must have subscripts.

Unless there is no other way... I would rather not build a new array...
via
a loop... inspecting one item at a time.

Suggestions would be appreciated.

--Bill
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RE: [U2] re:passing parameters to stored procedures

2008-07-11 Thread Dennis Bartlett
Did you solve this?

What comes to mind is that SQL might be taking the @ sign as a delimiter or
some such and stripping the variable before it gets to the proc.. 

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Subject: [U2] re:passing parameters to stored procedures

I have created stored procedure to run and I have to pass date parameter to
it. I'm getting error message saying ERROR [42000] [Microsoft][ODBC SQL
Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'ProcedureName' expects parameter
'@FirstDay', which was not supplied. I implicitly assign parameter value and
type and checked the name to be identical and there is still an error
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RE: [U2] re:passing parameters to stored procedures

2008-07-11 Thread Irina Lissok
I did not solve this problem. Actually, parameter name is correct, but
what I found out that it is SQL error related to datetime conversion in
the table and I have not solved this problem yet. 
I also notice when I run Stored Procedure apart from calling code with
provided date it runs perfectly, but as soon as I called it from code it
is nightmare I could not solve and I suspect it is related to SQL driver
settings or data type in the table.

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procedures

Did you solve this?

What comes to mind is that SQL might be taking the @ sign as a delimiter
or
some such and stripping the variable before it gets to the proc.. 

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Subject: [U2] re:passing parameters to stored procedures

I have created stored procedure to run and I have to pass date parameter
to
it. I'm getting error message saying ERROR [42000] [Microsoft][ODBC SQL
Server Driver][SQL Server]Procedure 'ProcedureName' expects parameter
'@FirstDay', which was not supplied. I implicitly assign parameter value
and
type and checked the name to be identical and there is still an error
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Re: [U2] ouch

2008-07-11 Thread MAJ Programming
I believe Accuterm's WED (Windows EDitor) keeps an archive on the PC for
unplanned disconnections. There may be a toggle to make it more useful.

My 1 cent
Mark Johnson
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Subject: RE: [U2] ouch


 One thing to note as well, subversion (version control) is free and it
 only took me a few days to write wrappers to the SVN commands in pick
 (and get them to work the way I wanted).  So far it's working out pretty
 well!

 Dougc

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 Worth noting if you use wintegrate editor, or unidebugger editor
 (probably
 others as well) they keep a copy of the last edit on your PC's disk for
 you
 as well.



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 Subject: Re: [U2] ouch

 Great answer to prevent future problems, such as
 I didn't really want to do that.
 thanks for reminding me about some really old options.  ;)
 Roger
 Louie Bergsagel wrote:
  A former co-worker of mine had a nifty paragraph he wrote which would
 edit,
  compile, catalog and run a program in one fell swoop.
 
  Because I detest wasting time with repetitive tasks, I've written a
 similar
  program which also copies the current version of a program to a backup
 file
  in case I trash it, or want to revert to a previous version.
 
  EDBP [program.name] does the following:
  1. Copies [program.name] to a backup directory (e.g. LOUIEB.BP) with a
 name
  of program.name:_:date():_:time():_.bak
  2. Executes ED LOUIEB.BP program.name
  3. Executes BASIC and CATALOG commands unless I say no to a prompt.
  4. Executes the cataloged command unless I say no to a prompt.
 
  This is the poor dude's version control program.
 
  -- Louie In Seattle
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RE: [U2] ouch

2008-07-11 Thread Edward Brown
Mark.

That's a very powerful condemnation of 'clunky' backup practices.

However, you've not gone far enough imo - simply keeping a copy of every
(significant?) version of a program isn't taking advantage of modern
solutions to the change control problem.

As a poster suggested earlier on today, making use of a version control
system such as the free and excellent Subversion allows you to keep
hundreds of backups of your source code but rather than being a backup
of one program, the whole project is snapshotted, each snapshot giving
you all your code at that specific point in time. The storage
requirements for all of this sounds horrendous but in fact is very
modest, as files are stored on an incremental basis.

Used properly, subversion can make administering AND developing software
a much less stressful task - the basic principle of doing a change on a
branch and then only merging it into the trunk when it's ready (and
tested!) means changes are isolated from the main body of code until
they're complete and changes can be identified, checked, undone etc all
after the event. No need to use comments all through your source code to
show each little change!

Developers on Windows machines have access to TortoiseSVN, also free -
it's an explorer shell module that allows subversion administration
directly from the windows explorer without having to resort to the
command line.



Edward



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Subject: Re: [U2] ouch

Louie:

Good Technique. I published a similar technique in Spectrum called DCOPY
a
few years ago.

This replaces the pathetic methods that so many undisciplined
programmers
use where they simply copy the program to the same BP file with a very
stupid .BAK or .OLD or other unmanaged suffix. Having the archive in the
same file causes FIND or SEARCH programs to constantly include them when
not
useful.

Other similarily pathetic methods are to take the program and, instead
of
changing the archive name, they change the runtime name to NAME.NEW or
NAME.NEW2 etc, etc. This is worse than the suffixed version as trying to
FIND the unchanged versions, say NAME, would falsely also find NAME.NEW.
This method is also poor as you now must visit all the places NAME is
referred from and change to NAME.NEW.

I've inherited dozens of systems with these poor techniques. It's very
hard
and time consuming to systematically determine which programs are
on-line
and which are the backups. One client had over 15 versions of the same
program with varying suffixes. The remaining on-line version was
PRINT.ORDERS.NEW3 despite there being a NEW4 and NEW5 version as well.

Finally, the backup versions should never be compiled. This prevents an
errant programmer from compiling everything. My DCOPY iuncludes a line
of
text indicating why I made the archive. That line is stored on line 2 of
the
program (line 1 stays as SUBROUTINE for other analysis) like a comment
with
no asterisk. Thus, it would not compile at all.

My 2 cents,
Mark Johnson
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From: Louie Bergsagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] ouch


 A former co-worker of mine had a nifty paragraph he wrote which would
edit,
 compile, catalog and run a program in one fell swoop.

 Because I detest wasting time with repetitive tasks, I've written a
similar
 program which also copies the current version of a program to a backup
file
 in case I trash it, or want to revert to a previous version.

 EDBP [program.name] does the following:
 1. Copies [program.name] to a backup directory (e.g. LOUIEB.BP) with a
name
 of program.name:_:date():_:time():_.bak
 2. Executes ED LOUIEB.BP program.name
 3. Executes BASIC and CATALOG commands unless I say no to a prompt.
 4. Executes the cataloged command unless I say no to a prompt.

 This is the poor dude's version control program.

 -- Louie In Seattle
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Re: [U2] Extra Form Feed from .prn File Followed by Text

2008-07-11 Thread Bob Rasmussen
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Don P. Nagai wrote:

 
 Help!  Im trying to print a form created from Word combined with text.
 This method has always worked when creating prn files using a PCL5/5e
 driver, removing the standard escape sequences that trigger form feeds, and
 then sending the trimmed file in RAW format to an HP printer running either
 PCL5 or 6.  Its worked fine until now.  A new customer has Windows Server
 2003 x64, an HP P1505n Laser Jet and the prn files were created with XP Pro
 drivers.  Now every time we attempt to print, the form comes out on one page
 and the text on the next page.  If we build the prn files for an older HP
 model (say Laser Jet 1300 PCL5e) we get a single page, but the text and
 portions of the form are garbled.  Ive contacted HP and their suggestion
 was to use Laser Jet 6L drivers.  The print jobs still generated the extra
 form feed.

Do you know that there's an added formfeed, or might there be something 
else added which implicitly causes a formfeed? That is, have you looked at 
the data that the printer is actually getting, by capturing your combined 
output to a file?

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

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RE: [U2] ouch

2008-07-11 Thread David Ward
We did some integration with VSS to manage source control. It worked pretty
well, simple and effective.

CHECK.OUT {LIB} {PGM} {comments}
CHECK.IN  {LIB} {PGM}
UNCHECK   {LIB} {PGM} {comments}
VSS.STATUS {LIB} {PGM}
INSTALL {LIB} {PGM}

Only worked for source control because it read-locked the source, but it did
provide for up to two simultaneous check outs via three directory structures
development/stage/production. 

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:40 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] ouch


Mark.

That's a very powerful condemnation of 'clunky' backup practices.

However, you've not gone far enough imo - simply keeping a copy of every
(significant?) version of a program isn't taking advantage of modern
solutions to the change control problem.

As a poster suggested earlier on today, making use of a version control
system such as the free and excellent Subversion allows you to keep hundreds
of backups of your source code but rather than being a backup of one
program, the whole project is snapshotted, each snapshot giving you all your
code at that specific point in time. The storage requirements for all of
this sounds horrendous but in fact is very modest, as files are stored on an
incremental basis.

Used properly, subversion can make administering AND developing software a
much less stressful task - the basic principle of doing a change on a branch
and then only merging it into the trunk when it's ready (and
tested!) means changes are isolated from the main body of code until they're
complete and changes can be identified, checked, undone etc all after the
event. No need to use comments all through your source code to show each
little change!

Developers on Windows machines have access to TortoiseSVN, also free - it's
an explorer shell module that allows subversion administration directly from
the windows explorer without having to resort to the command line.



Edward



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MAJ Programming
Sent: 11 July 2008 16:42
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] ouch

Louie:

Good Technique. I published a similar technique in Spectrum called DCOPY a
few years ago.

This replaces the pathetic methods that so many undisciplined programmers
use where they simply copy the program to the same BP file with a very
stupid .BAK or .OLD or other unmanaged suffix. Having the archive in the
same file causes FIND or SEARCH programs to constantly include them when not
useful.

Other similarily pathetic methods are to take the program and, instead of
changing the archive name, they change the runtime name to NAME.NEW or
NAME.NEW2 etc, etc. This is worse than the suffixed version as trying to
FIND the unchanged versions, say NAME, would falsely also find NAME.NEW.
This method is also poor as you now must visit all the places NAME is
referred from and change to NAME.NEW.

I've inherited dozens of systems with these poor techniques. It's very hard
and time consuming to systematically determine which programs are on-line
and which are the backups. One client had over 15 versions of the same
program with varying suffixes. The remaining on-line version was
PRINT.ORDERS.NEW3 despite there being a NEW4 and NEW5 version as well.

Finally, the backup versions should never be compiled. This prevents an
errant programmer from compiling everything. My DCOPY iuncludes a line of
text indicating why I made the archive. That line is stored on line 2 of the
program (line 1 stays as SUBROUTINE for other analysis) like a comment with
no asterisk. Thus, it would not compile at all.

My 2 cents,
Mark Johnson
- Original Message -
From: Louie Bergsagel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] ouch


 A former co-worker of mine had a nifty paragraph he wrote which would
edit,
 compile, catalog and run a program in one fell swoop.

 Because I detest wasting time with repetitive tasks, I've written a
similar
 program which also copies the current version of a program to a backup
file
 in case I trash it, or want to revert to a previous version.

 EDBP [program.name] does the following:
 1. Copies [program.name] to a backup directory (e.g. LOUIEB.BP) with a
name
 of program.name:_:date():_:time():_.bak
 2. Executes ED LOUIEB.BP program.name
 3. Executes BASIC and CATALOG commands unless I say no to a prompt. 4. 
 Executes the cataloged command unless I say no to a prompt.

 This is the poor dude's version control program.

 -- Louie In Seattle
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RE: [U2] ouch

2008-07-11 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hi Mark,

M2K = Manage-2000

SO.ENTRY has been constantly modified due to customer demands since 1978 and
has more options than can be dreamt of.  As you can imagine, over the period
of the last 30 years there have been literally hundreds of people come in,
program a new option and leave their mark on this enormous program.

The m2k system actually now has 680+ MENUS !

Many of the subroutines are that long.  What's going on?  Creeping
Feature-itis !  The subroutines are arranged by functionality and some of
those functions are just huge, like multiple ship-to customers and multiple
scheduled shipments per line item.

Allen
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Regarding these numbers being thrown around, aka Mine is Bigger:

I can see a Sales Order entry program growing to 34 subs. I wonder what's
going on in a 2000 to 3000 line sub though.

I can see 100 other subs.

But does your 400 to 500 people mean the users offering their slight input,
the managers offering their major input or do you mean 400 to 500
programmers?

Considering how many of us there actually are (or could be), I might have
been one of them although I don't recall.

Also, What's a M2K program?

Just curious.
Mark Johnson
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 a) oh well

 b) Oh, I've been programming since 1974, professionally since 1978, I've
 only been using paper for 25 years... :)  Heck, I dream about code - talk
 about visualizingbut you should see some of the M2K programs.
SO.ENTRY
 is up to about 34 main subroutines many of which are 2000 to 3000 lines,
100
 associated subroutines and it's been modified by 400 to 500 people.

 And the darn thing not only works, but works great!

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 Subject: Re: [U2] ouch


 a) Universe
 b) whippersnapper (32 years still in black and white)
my main concerns are the programmers that can't visualize impacts on
 the whole 'code'.   and are constantly recompiling after correcting 5-10
 lines of code.   Of course, back in the Early Dawn of Pick, compiling
 500 lines of code would take 20-30 minutes plus drag down the other 16
 programmers on the system.  There was a least one programmer
 're-educated' for abusing the system.  Of course, some of the 5,000 line
 programs that I've seen recently were because somebody didn't think.
 Roger

 Allen E. Elwood wrote:
  You didn't say unidata or universe...
 
  This guy has a unidata decompiler, not sure how fast they are
 
  http://www.infocus50.com/products/xtrico.html
 
  btw, at 52 I haven't been using paper for 25 years
 
  :-)
 
  hth,
 
  Allen E. Elwood
  www.tortillafc.com
  Quality Code Since 1978
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RE: [U2] Extra Form Feed from .prn File Followed by Text

2008-07-11 Thread Don P. Nagai
We're assuming that there must be some sort of form-feed character (or other
sequence that the printer is using to generate a form-feed) but have not
actually checked all of the info due to the size of the prn files.

We were able to eliminate the form-feed by stripping every occurrence of
CHAR(12), but that distorted some of the text box and bitmap output on the
form.

As is usually done, after converting the prn file to hex, we stripped all
the 1B45, 1B252D313233..., 1B266C... printer reset, orientation and paper
source sequences, but we must be missing something...

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:06 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Extra Form Feed from .prn File Followed by Text

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Don P. Nagai wrote:

 
 Help!  Im trying to print a form created from Word combined with text.
 This method has always worked when creating prn files using a PCL5/5e
 driver, removing the standard escape sequences that trigger form feeds,
and
 then sending the trimmed file in RAW format to an HP printer running
either
 PCL5 or 6.  Its worked fine until now.  A new customer has Windows Server
 2003 x64, an HP P1505n Laser Jet and the prn files were created with XP
Pro
 drivers.  Now every time we attempt to print, the form comes out on one
page
 and the text on the next page.  If we build the prn files for an older HP
 model (say Laser Jet 1300 PCL5e) we get a single page, but the text and
 portions of the form are garbled.  Ive contacted HP and their suggestion
 was to use Laser Jet 6L drivers.  The print jobs still generated the extra
 form feed.

Do you know that there's an added formfeed, or might there be something 
else added which implicitly causes a formfeed? That is, have you looked at 
the data that the printer is actually getting, by capturing your combined 
output to a file?

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

personal e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [U2] Unidata upgrades

2008-07-11 Thread Adrian Merrall
 When we moved our production server (Solaris 9) from 6.1 to 7.1 it went
like
 butta - smooth and no issues at all.

Ditto - the only upgrade issue I can think of since version 3.3 was the
systest program run as part of the install to check kernel parameters etc.
had a problem.  IBM sent me a fixed version the next day.

Having said that we always:

1.  Do a fresh install rather than installing over the top of the previous
release.
2.  Recompile/catalog all our software .

This is on DGUX (going way back) and RHEL.

HTH
Adrian
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