Re: [U2] [UV] Currently preferred Linux distro

2009-06-16 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
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Stuart stuart.boyd...@spotless.com.au writes


Just calling on the wisdom of the group to ask what is the currently
preferred Linux distro for running UV?


iirc, if you want a *supported* environment, you want RHEL or SLES.

Bearing in mind CentOS is the same as RHEL, and OpenSUSE is close to 
SLES, those would be options. Fedora of course is RedHat, so you're 
probably okay there.


But as far as I'm aware, it should run on most distros without problems, 
it's just the installer that will give you grief. The two things to 
watch out there that I'm aware of are that one of the cpio options has 
reversed its meaning - you may have to remove or add an argument, and of 
course the rc.d environment varies between distros so you may have to 
configure the UV startup stuff manually.


We will be putting low user count development  test environments on it
and ultimately we are trying to emulate as closely as possible our AIX 5.3
production environment. We are currently using Fedora Core 6 32bit but I feel
we should go up to a newer 64 bit platform.


Cheers,
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Re: [U2] [UV] Currently preferred Linux distro

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Romanow

Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
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Boydell, Stuart stuart.boyd...@spotless.com.au writes


Just calling on the wisdom of the group to ask what is the currently
preferred Linux distro for running UV?


iirc, if you want a *supported* environment, you want RHEL or SLES.

Bearing in mind CentOS is the same as RHEL, and OpenSUSE is close to 
SLES, those would be options. Fedora of course is RedHat, so you're 
probably okay there.


But as far as I'm aware, it should run on most distros without 
problems, it's just the installer that will give you grief. The two 
things to watch out there that I'm aware of are that one of the cpio 
options has reversed its meaning - you may have to remove or add an 
argument, and of course the rc.d environment varies between distros so 
you may have to configure the UV startup stuff manually.


We will be putting low user count development  test environments on it
and ultimately we are trying to emulate as closely as possible our 
AIX 5.3
production environment. We are currently using Fedora Core 6 32bit 
but I feel

we should go up to a newer 64 bit platform.


Cheers,
Wol
When you convert your data, be aware of the endian-ness of the two 
platforms.  AIX to x86 will require a conversion.

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Re: [U2] [UV] Currently preferred Linux distro

2009-06-16 Thread jpb-u2ug
This won't be a problem if you use uvbackup and uvrestore. Otherwise you
will have to do a fnuxi. If you've been testing with fedora then your best
bet would be RH Linux. It's supported and a fairly good track record.

Jerry Banker

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When you convert your data, be aware of the endian-ness of the two 
platforms.  AIX to x86 will require a conversion.


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Re: [U2] [UV] Currently preferred Linux distro

2009-06-16 Thread Stephen Prater
Works on CentOS 4 - but you have to install an older version of a  
library (I had to compile it from source.)  I can't remember what  
exactly, but the installer gives you a nice error message you can  
puzzle it out from.


I couldn't get it working on Debian or Gentoo - but to be honest, I  
didn't really try THAT hard.


If you've got the money, just get Red Hat and spare yourself the  
headache of a free distro.


In Red Hat you need to beware the Kerberos package.  Certain versions  
of it will lock up U2 Logins over Telnet.


Speaking to 64bit linux in general, I've had nothing but trouble.   
Lots of unsatisfied (and some unsatisfiable) dependencies and an  
entirely new set of bugs.  Unless you actually need something 64 bit  
offers, I'd steer clear.


stephen

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[U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Susan Joslyn
Greetings group.

Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777 after
we create any file. want that to be the default.

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Jeff Schasny
Set the users umask in the .profile of their home directory. If all of 
your users are part of a common group (as they should be) umask 770 
should work


Susan Joslyn wrote:


Greetings group.

Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in 
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777 
after we create any file... want that to be the default.


 


Thanks!

 


Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

PRC(r) Software life-cycle management and IT Governance for U2/Multivalue

http://sjplus.com

 




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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Jeff Schasny
Or... if you want to make it global to all users put the umask in 
/etc/profile


Susan Joslyn wrote:


Greetings group.

Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in 
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777 
after we create any file... want that to be the default.


 


Thanks!

 


Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

PRC(r) Software life-cycle management and IT Governance for U2/Multivalue

http://sjplus.com

 




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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Joshua Gallant
You do in fact want to look into the umask setting but 770 doesn't seem
correct since that would grant access to other but not the owner or
group.

 

- Josh

 

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Set the users umask in the .profile of their home directory. If all of
your users are part of a common group (as they should be) umask 770
should work

Susan Joslyn wrote: 

Greetings group.

Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777
after we create any file... want that to be the default.

 

Thanks!

 

Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

PRC(r) Software life-cycle management and IT Governance for
U2/Multivalue

http://sjplus.com

 

 






 
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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread BNeylon
Doesn't the umask have to be the inverse (for want of a better word)?
umask 002 would give the same permisions as chmod 664?  Or is that 
something that has been changed? 

Bruce M Neylon
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You do in fact want to look into the umask setting but 770 doesn’t seem 
correct since that would grant access to “other” but not the owner or 
group.
 
- Josh
 
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Set the users umask in the .profile of their home directory. If all of 
your users are part of a common group (as they should be) umask 770 should 
work

Susan Joslyn wrote: 
Greetings group.
Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in 
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777 
after we create any file… want that to be the default.
 
Thanks!
 
Susan Joslyn
SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.
PRC(r) Software life-cycle management and IT Governance for U2/Multivalue
http://sjplus.com
 
 





 
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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Charles_Shaffer
The umask tells the file system which bits to NOT set when th user creates 
a file.  I believe the default is 777, OR the permissions of the parent 
directory.  Then the umask is applied.  The umask is usually set in the 
users .profile, but can be globally set in the /etc/profile depending on 
the flavor of UNIX.


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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Jeff Schasny

Sorry about that. Must be lexdistic today

John Hester wrote:



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You do in fact want to look into the umask setting but 770
doesn't seem correct since that would grant access to other but not
the owner or group.

	 


- Josh

	 
---


Josh is right, umask has an inverse relationship to the octal permission
numbers chmod uses.  We execute umask 0002 in the UV users'
.bash_profile which results in permissions of rw-rw-r-- for new files
and rwxrwxr-x for new directories (type 19 files).  If you want to
completely deny access for other, umask 0006 will results in
permissions of rw-rw for files and rwxrwx--- for directories.  Also,
you can omit the first digit if it's zero.  It's just for special
permissions like the suid or sticky bits.

-John
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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
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, charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com writes


The umask tells the file system which bits to NOT set when th user
creates a file.  I believe the default is 777, OR the permissions of the
parent directory.  Then the umask is applied.  The umask is usually set in
the users .profile, but can be globally set in the /etc/profile depending on
the flavor of UNIX.

Try man chmod and play. I've just taken a look and modes 4000 and 2000 
look promising although they're not quite what I thought. They'll force 
owner (and maybe group) to be what you want. It might not work for 
dynamic files, though :-(


Cheers,
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Re: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

2009-06-16 Thread Gregor Scott
You could try the UniVerse command UMASK 000. Works exactly like the Unix
version.

 

Put it in the UV.LOGIN or the account LOGIN macro and everyone will get the
settings applied.

 

 

Gregor

 

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Subject: [U2] Linux / file create default permissions

 

Greetings group.

Anyone know how to set an overall parameter so that files created in
Universe over Linux get r/w/x permissions?  We are having to chmod 777 after
we create any file. want that to be the default.

 

Thanks!

 

Susan Joslyn

SJ+ Systems Associates, Inc.

PRC(r) Software life-cycle management and IT Governance for U2/Multivalue

http://sjplus.com

 

 

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