[U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Baker Hughes
Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think part of the 
UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?

I don't remember seeing any threads regarding it so I'm wondering if folks are 
just working away with it with no issues or questions, or if most haven't found 
a use for it, or haven't discovered it.

I haven't had a project yet 'in my day job' that calls for it, but am thinking 
about other projects. Does anyone know of a fast-start guide?  The look and 
feel is a lot like visual studio, but it's been a couple of years since I 
dabbled in that either.

If Nathan R. or Marcie G. are listening, this could be an opportunity for a 
webinar.

-Baker

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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Glenn Sallis
Hi Baker

You can use this for your everyday BASIC developments. I believe it only
works perfectly on UV version 10.3. So if you are lucky enough to be
running 10.3 already then it's probably a good reason to finally cast
Unidebugger into that great screen editor in the sky
 
You can download the document related to this at:
http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/22922010.pdf

Regards
- glenn


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Subject: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think part
of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?

I don't remember seeing any threads regarding it so I'm wondering if
folks are just working away with it with no issues or questions, or if
most haven't found a use for it, or haven't discovered it.

I haven't had a project yet 'in my day job' that calls for it, but am
thinking about other projects. Does anyone know of a fast-start guide?
The look and feel is a lot like visual studio, but it's been a couple of
years since I dabbled in that either.

If Nathan R. or Marcie G. are listening, this could be an opportunity
for a webinar.

-Baker

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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Romanow
Do you think maybe IBM could take U2 development towards Eclipse?  They 
already have such an investment.


You say this is just UV, but Unidata is not too different, so it is 
technically possible.


Glenn Sallis wrote:

Hi Baker

You can use this for your everyday BASIC developments. I believe it only
works perfectly on UV version 10.3. So if you are lucky enough to be
running 10.3 already then it's probably a good reason to finally cast
Unidebugger into that great screen editor in the sky
 
You can download the document related to this at:

http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/22922010.pdf

Regards
- glenn


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Subject: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think part
of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?

I don't remember seeing any threads regarding it so I'm wondering if
folks are just working away with it with no issues or questions, or if
most haven't found a use for it, or haven't discovered it.

I haven't had a project yet 'in my day job' that calls for it, but am
thinking about other projects. Does anyone know of a fast-start guide?
The look and feel is a lot like visual studio, but it's been a couple of
years since I dabbled in that either.

If Nathan R. or Marcie G. are listening, this could be an opportunity
for a webinar.

-Baker

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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Andrew Lakeland
Unidata is an option when installing.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow
Sent: donderdag 18 juni 2009 15:13
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Subject: Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

Do you think maybe IBM could take U2 development towards Eclipse?  They 
already have such an investment.

You say this is just UV, but Unidata is not too different, so it is 
technically possible.

Glenn Sallis wrote:
> Hi Baker
>
> You can use this for your everyday BASIC developments. I believe it
only
> works perfectly on UV version 10.3. So if you are lucky enough to be
> running 10.3 already then it's probably a good reason to finally cast
> Unidebugger into that great screen editor in the sky
>  
> You can download the document related to this at:
> http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/22922010.pdf
>
> Regards
> - glenn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker
Hughes
> Sent: Donnerstag, 18. Juni 2009 14:53
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK
>
> Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think
part
> of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?
>
> I don't remember seeing any threads regarding it so I'm wondering if
> folks are just working away with it with no issues or questions, or if
> most haven't found a use for it, or haven't discovered it.
>
> I haven't had a project yet 'in my day job' that calls for it, but am
> thinking about other projects. Does anyone know of a fast-start guide?
> The look and feel is a lot like visual studio, but it's been a couple
of
> years since I dabbled in that either.
>
> If Nathan R. or Marcie G. are listening, this could be an opportunity
> for a webinar.
>
> -Baker
>
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Israel, John R.
I believe the newest version of Redback (called WEB DE) uses Eclipse to develop 
ASP web pages.  In fact, IBM is saying you can convert all your SB+ stuff over 
to ASP!  That could be a big savings on SB licenses, but unless you have a home 
grown system, your vendor is not likely to support this (they would loose the 
revenue on the SB licenses).



Looks cool though.





John Israel

Sr. Programmer/Analyst

Dayton Superior Corporation

721 Richard St.

Dayton, OH  45342

937-866-0711 x44380
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Romanow
We've so far just refused to use the gui sbclient.  too expensive.  i 
like ht etoolkit, but console mode is fine, and my users who telnet in 
NEED the console.  I was thinking about Eclipse for SB development not 
userland.


If the stuff we do in /MP and /PD.P could be abstracted into Eclipse, 
that would be wonderful.


Israel, John R. wrote:

I believe the newest version of Redback (called WEB DE) uses Eclipse to develop 
ASP web pages.  In fact, IBM is saying you can convert all your SB+ stuff over 
to ASP!  That could be a big savings on SB licenses, but unless you have a home 
grown system, your vendor is not likely to support this (they would loose the 
revenue on the SB licenses).



Looks cool though.





John Israel

Sr. Programmer/Analyst

Dayton Superior Corporation

721 Richard St.

Dayton, OH  45342

937-866-0711 x44380
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Charles_Shaffer
>> Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think 
part of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?

I am in the process of trying to download a LAMP development version of 
Eclipse.  I didn't know Eclipse could be used with U2 development.  I 
would take part in a webinar if one happened.

Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation
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Re: [U2] How do you do EDI? EC/EDI*Wizard

2009-06-18 Thread Norman Bauer
I wanted to thank all of you who contributed to this thread. Your
experiences and generosity in sharing them with me and everyone else has
been invaluable.
Norm

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Dave Taylor wrote:

>  Hi Norm,
>
> First, we are a software developer, and I thought you might like to know
> how our customers do EDI using our EDI Translator, the EC/EDI*Wizard.
>
> Next, since this msg is on the U2 listserv, let me assume that you are
> running you business software on either Unidata or on Universe - in any case
> on a multi-user database.
>
> So, when I say that the Wizard runs on either mvBase or on Universe, I'm
> saying that our EDI translator is a multi-user application and can be used
> simultaneously by as many people as necessary to run your EDI operation - as
> opposed to the typical single-user EDI translator running on some PC in the
> "EDI office" where only one person can use it a any one time.
>
> I'm also saying that your EDI database is backed up reliably right along
> with the rest of  your business database and is supported by the quality and
> reliability of the same IT equipment and staff that run your business
> software.
>
> And, because the Wizard runs on your business database, it is programmed in
> the same language as your business software and is installed with all the
> source code so that integrating it with your business software can be done
> by the same staff that supports your business software, or by our staff, or
> a combination of the two, if you wish.
>
> By integration, I mean for example converting Purchase Orders to Sales
> Orders using the same business rules that you now use in you Order Entry
> software.
>
> This allows qualified Purchase Orders to be converted into Open Sales
> Orders automatically, without any manual intervention, so your Order
> Processing staff only has to deal with those Purchase Orders that fail to
> pass your Sales Order acceptance criteria - eg pricing, available credit
> limit, product availability, etc. - and our rejection reports tell you why
> the order failed.
>
> So, it won't surprise you when I say that most EDI operations are actually
> perfomed by the people who process orders as a part of their regular job ,
> because most order processing is acually done by processing EDI Purchase
> Orders.
>
> Ofcourse the Wizard is a map-based translator, so creating a map for any
> document for any Trading Partner is simply a matter of CLONEing an existing
> map and modifying it.
>
> Each customer usually has a person who is an EDI Specialist (among other
> areas of specialization) and the EDI Specialist learns to create or modify
> maps very quickly, often with our help initially and then independently
> thereafter.
>
> Our EDI customers are in both the retail and the grocery sectors, so the
> Wizard supports many EDI documents, including 850 and 875 Purchase Orders,
> 940 Warehouse Shipping Orders and 945 Warehouse Shipping Advisories, the 856
> ASN, 810 and 880 Invoices, 820 Remittance Advice, and many others.
>
> I will be glad to discuss your particular needs with you to help
> you determine if the Wizard will be a good fit with your needs, and then
> schedule a demo if you'd like.
>
> Hope this is helpful.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Dave
>
> Dave Taylor
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> (F) 310-377-3550
> (C) 310-561-5200
> www.sysmarkinfo.com
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Norman Bauer 
> *To:* U2 Users List 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2009 6:25 AM
> *Subject:* [U2] How do you do EDI?
>
> We have a very painful, labor intensive way that we do EDI. From the way we
> create the X12 documents to our users inputing information to be sent in an
> EDI message. I would like to start evaluating alternative methods to our
> current practices. All suggestions welcome.
> Norm
>
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread David Wolverton
ACTUALLY -- I think the converted things still use SB+ seats -- they do not
build 'true' ASP pages... Someone correct me if I'm wrong!  But my
undestanding is that the applications you port are still 'session holding,
license eating' critters -- not connection pooled 'web applications'

DW 

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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of 
> Israel, John R.
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK
> 
> I believe the newest version of Redback (called WEB DE) uses 
> Eclipse to develop ASP web pages.  In fact, IBM is saying you 
> can convert all your SB+ stuff over to ASP!  That could be a 
> big savings on SB licenses, but unless you have a home grown 
> system, your vendor is not likely to support this (they would 
> loose the revenue on the SB licenses).
> 
> 
> 
> Looks cool though.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John Israel
> 
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> 
> Dayton Superior Corporation
> 
> 721 Richard St.
> 
> Dayton, OH  45342
> 
> 937-866-0711 x44380
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Romanow
their whole method of marketing this limits growth so much.  no one is 
going to pay these prices for this toolkit (i may be wrong, we wont).


I had a bounce back from teh list, I apologize if this posts twice.

charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote:
Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think 
  

part of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?

I am in the process of trying to download a LAMP development version of 
Eclipse.  I didn't know Eclipse could be used with U2 development.  I 
would take part in a webinar if one happened.


Charles Shaffer
Senior Analyst
NTN-Bower Corporation
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Doug Averch
Steve,

WebDE only works on Windows .Net platform and does not have any deployment
capability.  That means what every you develop you have to figure out how to
get all of the pieces to the server.  The Basic Developer is missing what we
believe is one of the most important features: version control.

As a matter of a fact U2logic was the first to have an UniBasic editor that
works for Universe and Unidata based on the Eclipse platform.  U2logic was
the first to have a Web IDE based on the Eclipse platform.

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as a true plug-in which means that you can use our editor for basic,
MyEclipse for HTML, or Ruby IDE.  We also have the ability to edit offline.
This means you need only one version of Eclipse running to program for all
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XLr8Developer is an Eclipse based plug-in that creates HTML forms for Apache
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U2WebLink uses UniObjects for Java with full logging and most importantly we
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In order to support the replication effort, U2WebLink have full transaction
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Subject: Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

We've so far just refused to use the gui sbclient.  too expensive.  i like
ht etoolkit, but console mode is fine, and my users who telnet in NEED the
console.  I was thinking about Eclipse for SB development not userland.

If the stuff we do in /MP and /PD.P could be abstracted into Eclipse, that
would be wonderful.

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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread George R Smith
What are  these prices ???

George R Smith
It's me and you against the world.
When do we attack? 

> -Original Message-
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> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:30 AM
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK
> 
> their whole method of marketing this limits growth so much.  no one is
> going to pay these prices for this toolkit (i may be wrong, we wont).
> 
> I had a bounce back from teh list, I apologize if this posts twice.
> 
> charles_shaf...@ntn-bower.com wrote:
> >>> Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I think
> >>>
> > part of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?
> >
> > I am in the process of trying to download a LAMP development version of
> > Eclipse.  I didn't know Eclipse could be used with U2 development.  I
> > would take part in a webinar if one happened.
> >
> > Charles Shaffer
> > Senior Analyst
> > NTN-Bower Corporation
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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Steve Romanow
I was ranting about SBClient licensing, not the Eclipse SDK, sorry.  Off 
Topic.


George R Smith wrote:

What are  these prices ???

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Re: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK

2009-06-18 Thread Brian Leach
To go back to the original question:

I used it during the beta for 10.3 and found that it was effective and has
some genuinely nice features. And if you're running Eclipse anyway and
you're familiar with that IDE, it's probably a good way to go. Certainly
having the integrated debugger is a big step forward, once you can work out
how to get through the configuration steps to get it working. Just be
careful inspecting large variables - it is unbelievably slow. I was
inspecting one variable that was holding a document I was building in code,
and it took over 15 minutes to display the content during which time I was
unable to do anything else. I guess that's pretty unusual (!) though - for
the most part the debugger is a very welcome addition (certainly far better
than the UniDebugger version).

However, since I spend my time mostly in .Net rather than Eclipse, I have to
say I don't have any intentions of running BDT other than out of general
interest. It's too heavyweight - if you don't already have Eclipse taking up
your resources to do other things - and whilst the syntax parsing is
extremely good, it's not configurable so it won't handle the precompiler
statements that I need. Some pieces are still rough around the edges and
there are some useful shortcuts in other editors that would make it easier
to navigate code, but these are niggles really - it is only the first
release and I applaud IBM for doing something to counter the hideous
ugliness that is ED.

[sort-of-AD-ish-but-only-if-you're-really-pedantic-cos-its-answering-the-que
stion]
Personally I'll stick with mvDeveloper because it's so much more lightweight
and I can play with the syntax as much as I like. BDT does have an API that
can be used to integrate to e.g. source control systems like PRC, but I'm
also adding something very similar to mvDeveloper to replace the piecemeal
handlers that are in there now. The only real downside is that I can't do
the same level of integration with the Basic debugger. That's probably the
one time you really do want to crank Eclipse into life.
[/sort-of-AD-ish-but-only-if-you're-really-pedantic-cos-its-answering-the-qu
estion]

Brian
 

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> Baker Hughes
> Sent: 18 June 2009 13:53
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> Subject: [U2] Basic Developer Toolkit - Eclipse SDK
> 
> Is anyone using the Eclipse SDK that was released recently (I 
> think part of the UV 10.2 rollout pkg)?
> 
> I don't remember seeing any threads regarding it so I'm 
> wondering if folks are just working away with it with no 
> issues or questions, or if most haven't found a use for it, 
> or haven't discovered it.
> 
> I haven't had a project yet 'in my day job' that calls for 
> it, but am thinking about other projects. Does anyone know of 
> a fast-start guide?  The look and feel is a lot like visual 
> studio, but it's been a couple of years since I dabbled in 
> that either.
> 
> If Nathan R. or Marcie G. are listening, this could be an 
> opportunity for a webinar.
> 
> -Baker
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[U2] BCI on UniData

2009-06-18 Thread Dave Costello
Hello everyone, I am trying to use this and I am coming up with the error when 
I try to run the SQLConnect command. The error is sqlstate = 08003, which I 
have looked up and found it means the connection is not open. What I don't know 
is how to go about opening the connection. I have not been able to find 
anything on opening the connection. Am I correct that a connection needs to be 
opened? If so, how do I do it?

Thank you. 



  
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