Re: [U2] [UD] LISTUSER output: phantom vs. iphantm

[Doug Averch]

Dean:

iphanotm processes, I believe, stand for interactive phantoms.  Therefore,
iphantoms are counted as users because of using interactive processes like
callhttp.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com
"Rocket Software VAR"
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[U2] [UD] LISTUSER output: phantom vs. iphantm

[Dean.Armbruster]

What is the difference between LISTUSER USRTYPEs "phantom" and "iphantm"?

On our systems, we will have 100 to 200 phantom processes, i.e. background 
processes, running at any given moment.  When I look at them via LISTUSER, they 
will be split approximately 60/40 between phantom and iphantm.  All were 
started using the PHANTOM verb.

I can't discern a difference, and I can't find anything about it in the 7.3 
UniData documents.  A search for "iphantm" has no hits.

This comes into play because it seems that SYSTEM(514) includes iphantm 
sessions in the count, but not phantom sessions.  We have a monitoring program 
that warns us if the number of users approaches the configured license limit, 
and it uses SYSTEM(514).  We built in for it to allow for a configurable amount 
of phantom processes.  If phantom processes may or may not be included in 
SYSTEM(514), our monitor program isn't as accurate as it could be.

It seems to me that neither phantom nor iphantm should be included in 
SYSTEM(514).  HELP for SYSTEM(514) states that it returns the number users 
currently logged in and does not include phantoms.  Presumably, this is the 
number of licenses in use.  Do iphantm sessions use a license?


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Dean Armbruster
Information Technology, System Analyst
Ferguson Enterprises, Inc.
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[U2] XLr8Resizer focused release 3.5.10 [ad]

[Doug Averch]

U2logic is pleased to announce a new release of it XLr8Tools version
3.5.10.  We have added multi-threading to the XLr8Resizer to speed up
analyze and resizing.   Our XLr8Resizer will be priced until the end of the
month at $99.00 and then will be $149.00 per year per user.  Our XLr8Editor
will be priced until the end of this month for $49.00 and then will be
$79.00 per year per user.  We think we have added a lot of value to both
products and will continue to do so.

Just a side note we had trouble on our test system getting more than 39
users to be used without running out of memory on Eclipse or too many
threads for UniObjects for Java (UOJ) to handle simultaneously.  We had to
slow up our Java code because UOJ cannot handle the management of that many
sessions with commands like ANALYZE.FILE and RESIZE on
Universe.  Curiously, Unidata performed better with guide and memresize
maybe to the fact they are OS commands.

Here is our changed log for this release:

v3.5.10 - September 14, 2012

   Bugzilla [Bug 464] - XLr8Resizer can use all of the connections you want
simultaneously for resizing

   1) Added preference color choice for when Analyze.File fails

   2) Added preference for connection time attempts

   3) Added preference for max attempts to connect



Regards,

U2logic Team

www.u2logic.com/tools.html

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Re: [U2] [UD] Determining number of users licensed

[Kate Stanton]

As long as only 1 user is using it: watch for this (2 users in quick
succession):

PORT.STATUS started at 14-Sep-2012 09:53:40
Finished at 14-Sep-2012 09:53:40
PORT.STATUS is currently being run by another user, try again later.


On 14 September 2012 09:38,  wrote:

> And the winner is:
>
> PORT.STATUS
>
> It is quick and easy.  My program executes it using its own @USERNO and
> parses it out.  With no options, it returns instantly.
>
> LISTUSER and listuser were too slow.  It takes 20+ seconds for them to
> return from an captured EXECUTE/PCPERFORM when it has to output our 6000+
> sessions.  I'd probably grep the smm.log if I were writing a unix script or
> program.  Having a SYSTEM() call to get this is on the wish list.
>
> My thanks to Kevin, Dan, Colin, and Rod for your suggestions.
>
> Dean Armbruster
> System Analyst
> 757-989-2839
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of
> dean.armbrus...@ferguson.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 16:24
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] [UD] Determining number of users licensed
>
> Is there a way to programmatically determine the number of licensed users
> allowed?
>
> SYSTEM(514) reports the number of non-phantom users currently logged in,
> which is essentially the number of licenses in use.  I want to compare that
> against the number of users allowed in a monitoring program.  I want to
> know if we're close to the limit before we run out.  The number of licenses
> varies by server.
>
> Colleagues have suggested using grep on udtconfig for NUSERS, but that is
> not the same thing.  Since we generally have 100-200 phantom processes, we
> sometimes configure to a size larger than the license limit to have room
> for those phantom processes.
>
> UniData 7.3.1
> HPUX 11.31
> Dean Armbruster
> Information Technology, System Analyst
> Ferguson Enterprises, Inc.
> 12500 Jefferson Avenue * Newport News * VA * 23602-4314
> T: +1 (757) 989 2839 * F: +1 (757) 989 2801
> www.ferguson.com
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Re: [U2] [UD] Determining number of users licensed

[Dean.Armbruster]

And the winner is:

PORT.STATUS

It is quick and easy.  My program executes it using its own @USERNO and parses 
it out.  With no options, it returns instantly.

LISTUSER and listuser were too slow.  It takes 20+ seconds for them to return 
from an captured EXECUTE/PCPERFORM when it has to output our 6000+ sessions.  
I'd probably grep the smm.log if I were writing a unix script or program.  
Having a SYSTEM() call to get this is on the wish list.

My thanks to Kevin, Dan, Colin, and Rod for your suggestions.

Dean Armbruster
System Analyst
757-989-2839

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of 
dean.armbrus...@ferguson.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 16:24
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [UD] Determining number of users licensed

Is there a way to programmatically determine the number of licensed users 
allowed?

SYSTEM(514) reports the number of non-phantom users currently logged in, which 
is essentially the number of licenses in use.  I want to compare that against 
the number of users allowed in a monitoring program.  I want to know if we're 
close to the limit before we run out.  The number of licenses varies by server.

Colleagues have suggested using grep on udtconfig for NUSERS, but that is not 
the same thing.  Since we generally have 100-200 phantom processes, we 
sometimes configure to a size larger than the license limit to have room for 
those phantom processes.

UniData 7.3.1
HPUX 11.31
Dean Armbruster
Information Technology, System Analyst
Ferguson Enterprises, Inc.
12500 Jefferson Avenue * Newport News * VA * 23602-4314
T: +1 (757) 989 2839 * F: +1 (757) 989 2801
www.ferguson.com

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Re: [U2] Q-Pointers

[Rutherford, Marc]

Found it:

http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Why-are-Qpointers-Q-pointers-64935.S.157796186


Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rutherford, Marc
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 8:27 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Q-Pointers

I recently read a piece by Brian Stone that 'Q-pointer' meant 'Query-Pointer'.  

It was part of a Pick history discussion I believe on Linked In.  Sorry I don't 
have the reference at hand now.  I will see if I can track it down tonight.

Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 7:24 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] Q-Pointers

My contact is Doug Owens with Ashwood Computer, Blue Ash (CIncinanti), OH 
Doug's contact is Henry (Hank) R Janicki, CEO and Founder of VirtualPlex, LLC

John



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:20 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Q-Pointers

Cite "this guy" so we can record it in our history logs.
 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Israel, John R. 
To: 'U2 Users List' 
Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 6:50 am
Subject: [U2] Q-Pointers


Follow up from last week:
 
I contacted a former co-worker who has contacts with some of the folks that 
worked with Dick Pick back in the original days.  This guy said that when they 
were brain storming about how to develop the original Pick database, they 
talked about a way to point to things quickly, thus the "Q" in a Q-pointer 
stands for Quick.

I would not stake my life on this answer, but this looks like the most accurate 
answer so far.


John


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Re: [U2] [UV] Nice gotcha

[David A. Green]

When I began working at Unidata one of the first things I tried was
:DELETE.FILE VOC and it of course did, things at TCL began to get really
weird, until it stopped working.  I was of course on a test machine and had
a backup.

But when the UniQuery keyword TO first came out it would let you do things
like LIST CUSTOMERS NAME ADDRESS TO VOC.  And without warning boom!

They have added some dummy proofing since those days.

David A. Green
(480) 813-1725
DAG Consulting

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ed Clark
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:25 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Nice gotcha

 
IIRC, universe doesn't let you run *any* query commands, including
LIST-ITEM, on a file if there isn't a dict defined.  So at some point
someone had edited the voc f-pointer for LISTU.HISTORY, and put VOC into
attribute 3? That's slightly dangerous. Good thing uv warns.

On Sep 12, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Wjhonson  wrote:

> So I was deleting a file so I could recreate it as a different file TYPE
when the following
> 
> DICT entry "VOC" does not match expected DICT "D_LISTU.HISTORY".
> Do you wish to DELETE this DICT file (Y/N)?
> 
> Wow that's really really nasty.
> Yes delete the VOC ?
> 
> I can see people doing this.
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