Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Richard Lewis
How about:

SELECT fname WITH MPAR.STATUS.DATE CONV "" = "[/]"

Since you seem to know exactly the kind of erroneous data you want to find.


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Greg Coelho  wrote:

> All,
>
> Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date
> has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH
> MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
> ./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set
> with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a
> way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Wjhonson
Just use the NUM function in an I-Descript.
Any external format, has to have at least one non-numeric in it.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates


Greg:

Can you do something like:

:select {FileName} WITH EVAL "OCONV(MPAR.STATUS.DATE, 'D')" = ""

This works fine on UniData in PICK mode, where an invalid conversion 
returns a null (an empty string).

HTH,

Bill



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On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date has 
been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH MPAR.STATUS.DATE 
LIKE 
"..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set with 
external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a way I can 
'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg

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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Tony Gravagno
> From: Peter Cheney
> How about a DICT item that performs a match like "2n'/'2n'/'2n" on
> that field?

Better to simply look for anything non-numeric.

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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Greg Coelho
Aah, I see.  I'll need to check our UDT.OPTIONS.  I think that I've 
managed to get this one worked out by creating a DICT entry without 
formating.  This gave me the list that I need.  In that we are migrating 
more and more data to SQL Server which really chokes on a bad date I'll 
need to get better at flushing these out.

Thanks,

Greg



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Date:   01/29/2013 06:17 PM
Subject:Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
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Greg:

That was the point.  What happens is an externally formatted date isn't 
OCONV'd, if the dbms is configured to return an empty string for a bad 
conversion.  I've got this set up on our systems like this. So, when I 
run the following code:

2 Dev (0)-> BPTEST CRT 'OConverted Date--: ' : OCONV('01/29/13', 'D') ; 
END

Compiling Unibasic: SAVEDLISTS\BpTest_547690521 in mode 'p'.
compilation finished
OConverted Date--:

...I get what you're looking for, an empty string for dates filed in 
external format.  In UniData I need UDT.OPTIONS 56 ON.

Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* coe...@american.edu
*To:* U2 Users List 
*Date:* 1/29/2013 3:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
> Bill,
>
> This is only returning those records that do not have a value in
> MPAR.STATUS.DATE.  Unfortunately I looking for records where an external
> date has been written instead of the internal date.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> From:   Bill Haskett 
> To: U2 Users List 
> Date:   01/29/2013 06:01 PM
> Subject:Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
> Sent by:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
>
>
>
> Greg:
>
> Can you do something like:
>
>  :select {FileName} WITH EVAL "OCONV(MPAR.STATUS.DATE, 'D')" = ""
>
> This works fine on UniData in PICK mode, where an invalid conversion
> returns a null (an empty string).
>
> HTH,
>
> Bill
>
> 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
> mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
> Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
>
> All,
>
> Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date
> has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH
> MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
> ./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is 
set
> with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there 
a
> way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Bill Haskett

Greg:

That was the point.  What happens is an externally formatted date isn't 
OCONV'd, if the dbms is configured to return an empty string for a bad 
conversion.  I've got this set up on our systems like this. So, when I 
run the following code:


2 Dev (0)-> BPTEST CRT 'OConverted Date--: ' : OCONV('01/29/13', 'D') ; END

Compiling Unibasic: SAVEDLISTS\BpTest_547690521 in mode 'p'.
compilation finished
OConverted Date--:

...I get what you're looking for, an empty string for dates filed in 
external format.  In UniData I need UDT.OPTIONS 56 ON.


Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* coe...@american.edu
*To:* U2 Users List 
*Date:* 1/29/2013 3:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

Bill,

This is only returning those records that do not have a value in
MPAR.STATUS.DATE.  Unfortunately I looking for records where an external
date has been written instead of the internal date.

Greg



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To: U2 Users List 
Date:   01/29/2013 06:01 PM
Subject:Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
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Greg:

Can you do something like:

 :select {FileName} WITH EVAL "OCONV(MPAR.STATUS.DATE, 'D')" = ""

This works fine on UniData in PICK mode, where an invalid conversion
returns a null (an empty string).

HTH,

Bill



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mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date
has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH
MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set
with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a
way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg

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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Greg Coelho
Bill,

This is only returning those records that do not have a value in 
MPAR.STATUS.DATE.  Unfortunately I looking for records where an external 
date has been written instead of the internal date. 

Greg



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To: U2 Users List 
Date:   01/29/2013 06:01 PM
Subject:Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates
Sent by:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org



Greg:

Can you do something like:

:select {FileName} WITH EVAL "OCONV(MPAR.STATUS.DATE, 'D')" = ""

This works fine on UniData in PICK mode, where an invalid conversion 
returns a null (an empty string).

HTH,

Bill



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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [
mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date 
has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH 
MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set 
with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a 
way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg

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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Bill Haskett

Greg:

Can you do something like:

   :select {FileName} WITH EVAL "OCONV(MPAR.STATUS.DATE, 'D')" = ""

This works fine on UniData in PICK mode, where an invalid conversion 
returns a null (an empty string).


HTH,

Bill



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date has been 
written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set with 
external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a way I can 
'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg

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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Peter Cheney
How about a DICT item that performs a match like "2n'/'2n'/'2n" on that field?

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Coelho
Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013 8:38
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date has 
been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH MPAR.STATUS.DATE 
LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set with 
external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a way I can 
'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg
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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Israel, John R.
Write a new dict w/o the conversion code and select on it.

John Israel

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On Jan 29, 2013, at 5:38 PM, "Greg Coelho"  wrote:

> All,
> 
> Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date 
> has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH  
> MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
> ./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set 
> with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a 
> way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Lunt, Bruce
Use a dict item for the field that does not have the date conversion.
Usually F1 or F2 or whatever are just raw formatted and will work.

Bruce 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 2:38 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date
has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH
MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is
set with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is
there a way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg
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Re: [U2] Searching for 'Bad' Dates

2013-01-29 Thread Greg Coelho
All,

Can anyone help me with a query to find instances where an external date 
has been written to a date field?  I would like to use ...WITH  
MPAR.STATUS.DATE LIKE "..
./..." (the dates would be in the fomat: '12/16/12', but this field is set 
with external formatting so I end up bringing back everything.  Is there a 
way I can 'turn off' formatting for this field within the query?

Thanks,

Greg
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Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Bill Haskett
"/...but I've created systems with master triggers that read a list of 
subordinate triggers from a control file and call them in order./"


This appears to be the "best practices" of managing triggers in UD.  
Once explained, it seems the most logical method of managing triggers 
and allowing individual dbms accounts to use local versions of trigger 
subroutines.


Bill

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*To:* 'U2 Users List' 
*Date:* 1/29/2013 1:08 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

Peter

Yes, they are still cached but you can derive the name - it's an overhead but 
I've created systems with master triggers that read a list of subordinate 
triggers from a control file and call them in order. Then these can have a 
version stamp appended when catalogued.

IN practice I found the overhead of reading the list was minimal compared with 
the overheads on calling the trigger in the first place, and because it's 
happening all the time on a busy system that control file is constantly cached 
in memory anyway.

Brian

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney
Sent: 28 January 2013 23:26
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

Could use the trigger program to call one or more external subroutines based on 
the trigger action required?  I understand that the external subroutines are 
not cached and can be updated without needing to stop/start the master trigger.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:19
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

Remember also that triggers, as subroutines, are cached in memory so if you 
recompile a trigger  the changes won't be picked up by any processes that have 
not logged off or returned to TCL.

Brian


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On 25 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Bobby Worley  wrote:


[snipped]


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Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/13 23:26, Peter Cheney wrote:
> Could use the trigger program to call one or more external subroutines based 
> on the trigger action required?
> I understand that the external subroutines are not cached and can be updated 
> without needing to stop/start the master trigger.
> 
Never tried this, but you should be able to break the cache if you so
wish ...

MYSUB = "subroutine name"
CALL @MYSUB

See my other post about the catalog and caching :-) but this will cache
the object code in the variable MYSUB. If you reload the variable with
the subroutine name EVERY CALL, it should load the object code afresh
every time.

Never tried it, can't guarantee it, but if you use this sort of code in
your trigger program it should work fine without caching. When it's all
tested and working, you can change it to "CALL *MYSUB" or whatever.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Data not seen using LIST.ITEM

2013-01-29 Thread Wols Lists
On 28/01/13 21:32, Tyler L wrote:
> Don,
> Thank you for your reply. That is a nice thing to know. I using that I have
> since found out that it is my own fault for not reading the code properly
> and I have resolved the issue. Thank you very much.
> 
I know you've solved it :-) but something else that is very useful ...

Look in VOC for entries called "1" or "F1" etc. I'm not sure how far it
goes by default, but I always add extras as I need them. They're default
dictionary items so you can at least look at a field.

In your case
LIST filename F30
would probably fail with "F30 not found", but for smaller numbers it
would list the field, and if you edited F1, replaced line 2 with the
number 30, and saved it as F30 that command would then display the
contents of field 30 for you.

A useful trick ...

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

2013-01-29 Thread Brian Leach
Peter

Yes, they are still cached but you can derive the name - it's an overhead but 
I've created systems with master triggers that read a list of subordinate 
triggers from a control file and call them in order. Then these can have a 
version stamp appended when catalogued. 

IN practice I found the overhead of reading the list was minimal compared with 
the overheads on calling the trigger in the first place, and because it's 
happening all the time on a busy system that control file is constantly cached 
in memory anyway.

Brian

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Peter Cheney
Sent: 28 January 2013 23:26
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

Could use the trigger program to call one or more external subroutines based on 
the trigger action required?
I understand that the external subroutines are not cached and can be updated 
without needing to stop/start the master trigger.

-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
Sent: Saturday, 26 January 2013 20:19
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe

Remember also that triggers, as subroutines, are cached in memory so if you 
recompile a trigger  the changes won't be picked up by any processes that have 
not logged off or returned to TCL. 

Brian


Sent from my iPad

On 25 Jan 2013, at 22:18, Bobby Worley  wrote:

> That's what I did, Perry!  GMTA ;)
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Perry Taylor wrote:
> 
>> You can globally catalog in a Pick-flavored account.  Copy the 
>> CATALOG VOC record from the UV account to your Pick-flavored account 
>> VOC renaming it something like ICATALOG.  We do it all the time for our 
>> file-based triggers.
>> 
>> Perry
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
>> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:03 PM
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: Re: [U2] Triggers in Universe
>> 
>> The problem was the locally cataloged program.I was in an account that
>> is PICK flavor and wouldn't allow global cataloging.  When I catalog 
>> the program globally from the UV account the CREATE TRIGGER now works.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Woodward, Bob 
>> >> wrote:
>> 
>>> In Unidata the problem would be that the trigger has to be cataloged 
>>> globally, not locally.  I'm not sure how to do that in Universe, though.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:
>>> u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley
>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 1:33 PM
>>> To: U2 Users List
>>> Subject: [U2] Triggers in Universe
>>> 
>>> I'm up against a wall here - trying to use triggers for the first 
>>> time,
>> on
>>> Universe.  Can't seem to get my test to work -
>>> 
>>> Universe on AIX:
>>> 
>>> RELLEVEL
>>> 001 X
>>> 002 11.1.9
>>> 003 PICK
>>> 004 PICK.FORMAT
>>> 005 11.1.9
>>> 
 BASIC BDW TRIGTEST
>>> Compiling: Source = 'BDW/TRIGTEST', Object = 'BDW.O/TRIGTEST'
>>> *
>>> 
>>> Compilation Complete.
>>> 
 CATALOG BDW TRIGTEST
>>> "TRIGTEST" cataloged.
>>> 
 .L TRIGTEST
>>> 
>>> TRIGTEST
>>> 001 V
>>> 002 BDW.O/TRIGTEST
>>> 003 B
>>> 004 BNP
>>> 005
>>> 006 PICK.FORMAT
>>> 007 S N P I A E H
>>> 008 NO.WARN NOPAGE LPTR KEEP.COMMON  TRAP HDR-SUPP
>>> 009 BDW.O
>>> 
>>> 
 CREATE TRIGGER TRIGTEST BEFORE UPDATE OR INSERT OR DELETE ON RENTAL 
 FOR
>>> EACH ROW CALLING 'TRIGTEST';
>>> Unable to locate trigger program "BDW.O/TRIGTEST".
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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Re: [U2] [UD] Disabling/blocking ODBC

2013-01-29 Thread Brian Leach
Sadly these appear to be UniData only.

Or at least, in the past I've tried with local catalog, global catalog as
*UOLOGIN and global catalog as the (illegal) UOLOGIN. None of these got
fired.

Would be really useful as a central consolidation point for things like
setting DATE.FORMAT.

Brian

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Phil Walker
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Is this only Unidata or Universe?

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Glad to hear that!

Regards,
Dan

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> There is an undocumented feature: ' ODBCLOGIN'. This is a subroutine 
> that is called for every ODBC call. You can use this to either blank 
> prevent ODBC, or setting up restricted login access & login.
 
Dan, I got the info from our VAR and it works great. Thanks!

Brad.
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