Re: [U2] Mobile phones

2013-07-15 Thread Symeon Breen
Thanks everyone for your information.



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Re: [U2] [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free Open Source Software for the MVDB world

2013-07-15 Thread Daniel McGrath
Thanks Tony  Kevin!

Unhappy to see we both ended up on different platforms (GitHub  BitBucket) 
which means people would need to learn 2 different sites, but ecstatic to see 
we both ended up using Git which means people really only need to learn 1 tool 
chain to be able to work with both. 

Cheers,

Dan McGrath
Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street  ·  Suite 1100  ·   Denver, CO 80237 ·  USA
T: +1 720 475 8098 · E: dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com · W: u2.rocketsoftware.com




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Subject: [U2] [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free  Open Source Software for the MVDB world

Posted for Kevin Powick
===

Fellow developers, 

I'm happy to announce a new resource for MVDB developers. FOSS4MV! 

FOSS4MV is a community for people that use or develop Free and Open Source 
Software for MVDB platforms, such as D3, OpenQM, jBASE, U2, Reality, Cache, 
etc. As such, it has three major offerings to promote communication and 
collaboration.  A Google+ Community, source code repositories at Bitbucket, and 
a Twitter account to keep you in-the-loop. 

Google+ is a surprisingly useful communications platform that makes it
easy to share information with individuals, groups, or the public at large. 
Some G+ communities have memberships that number in the tens of thousands, and 
I know that many MV developers already have a G+ account. 

Bitbucket, from Atlassian, is a leading provider of source code repository 
hosting using today's two leading source code control platforms, Git and 
Mercurial (Hg). Not only does Bitbucket support the top two SCC platforms, but 
they also allow unlimited, free public and
private** repositories. 

FOSS4MV is set up as a bitbucket Team allowing people to join the team and 
create repositories under the FOSS4MV banner, while still retaining complete 
control over the management of their repositories.
However, there is no requirement to join the FOSS4MV team account to get your 
code on the site. If you're just looking for a good home to share your code, 
but do not wish to manage a repository, let us know via email 
(foss...@gmail.com) and we'll post it for you. 

Twitter Is a great way to keep-up with what's going on with individuals, 
companies and communities such as FOSS4MV. You don't actually have to tweet to 
follow a Twitter account, so if you're not already on Twitter, sign-up and 
subscribe to FOSS4MV to keep an eye on what's happening. The traffic should be 
fairly low volume. 

== Final Remarks == 

Promoting software development and collaboration amongst MV developers is not a 
new idea but, until fairly recently, a standard set of tools for building 
communities wasn't readily available. Today, we have powerful and widely 
accepted tools that make collaboration not only easier, but enjoyable. 

Participation grows communities, and every little bit helps. With all the 
knowledge that we have amongst the veterans with 20 to 30+ years of MV 
experience, I'm sure we can build something useful to all MV developers, both 
old and new. So, at the very least, if you have any tips, tricks, or code that 
you wish to share, join the G+ community, get on the FOSS4MV Bitbucket team, or 
just send us your code and we will give it a good home. 

== Links == 

G+ Community: http://goo.gl/aLfKV
Source Code: https://bitbucket.org/foss4mv
Twitter: https://twitter.com/foss4mv
Email: foss...@gmail.com 

Regards, 

Kevin Powick

** Private, free repositories are limited to 5 members.  Once a private 
repository exceeds 5 members, you require a paid account.  The nature of 
FOSS4MV makes this a moot point as its repositories will be public by default.

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[U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread randyleesmith
It's been a while, nice to be back and working again. :)


I'm on a Universe Database;
 
I have a proc full of SORT reports.

I needed to add new fields, but the size of the line is too small. I'm
already using landscape mode and don't have enough space.

I have been testing with PCL, but I was wondering if I could just make the
line longer. Seems to be enough room if I could adjust the right margin. 

MARGIN /n/ only changes the left margin. 

I never had to deal much with SORT reports in the past, so I though you
Guru's could help. 



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Anthonys Lists

On 15/07/2013 15:32, randyleesmith wrote:

It's been a while, nice to be back and working again. :)


I'm on a Universe Database;
  
I have a proc full of SORT reports.


Bear in mind SORT and LIST are pretty much the same thing ...


I needed to add new fields, but the size of the line is too small. I'm
already using landscape mode and don't have enough space.

I have been testing with PCL, but I was wondering if I could just make the
line longer. Seems to be enough room if I could adjust the right margin.


Could you shrink any field widths? Are there any text fields which often 
have wasted space? You can use the FORMAT or FMT (not sure which) 
modifier to adjust the field width just for that report rather than 
messing around cluttering up the dictionary.


MARGIN /n/ only changes the left margin.


What margins have been set in SETPTR? I can't remember whether the 
default is 0 or 3 (both left and right).


I never had to deal much with SORT reports in the past, so I though you
Guru's could help.



Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Don Robinson
Randy,
 
SETPTR can be used to set the line length/page width.
 
SETPTR ,145,NODEFAULT,BRIEF
 
Should set it to 145 characters. NODEFAULT says do not changes anything else 
and BRIEF suppresses the OK to set prompt.

At the end you could/should reset it to 132.

Of course, in a proc, put an H before SETPTR and a P on the next line.

Good luck,
Don Robinson



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Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?


On 15/07/2013 15:32, randyleesmith wrote:
 It's been a while, nice to be back and working again. :)


 I'm on a Universe Database;
  
 I have a proc full of SORT reports.

Bear in mind SORT and LIST are pretty much the same thing ...

 I needed to add new fields, but the size of the line is too small. I'm
 already using landscape mode and don't have enough space.

 I have been testing with PCL, but I was wondering if I could just make the
 line longer. Seems to be enough room if I could adjust the right margin.

Could you shrink any field widths? Are there any text fields which often 
have wasted space? You can use the FORMAT or FMT (not sure which) 
modifier to adjust the field width just for that report rather than 
messing around cluttering up the dictionary.

 MARGIN /n/ only changes the left margin.

What margins have been set in SETPTR? I can't remember whether the 
default is 0 or 3 (both left and right).

 I never had to deal much with SORT reports in the past, so I though you
 Guru's could help.


Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Mobile phones

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Haskett

Did it help, and what did you decide to do? :-)

Bill


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Thanks everyone for your information.



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread randyleesmith
I've tried to get the ok for moving items over, but it effected the headers
too.

I guess the customer didn't go for it. (I have a Customer Rep I work with.)

The SORT did not like making PCL changes. It just ignored them. I'm sure its
because of the default settings on the system.

You can set MARGIN in the SORT command itself, but only the left. I set it
to 0 and it printed way over to the left, but did not add any line length.

Since there is more spacing on the page I thought I might be able to take
advantage of it.


SETPTR might be worth looking into as long as I can set it back.


In the mean time I've been able to make changes with PCL and get everything
to fit nicely, but I had to code the output in order to do so. It's simple
enough to code so I might go with this unless I can find an easy way to do a
similar thing with the SORT statement.



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Bill Haskett
The simplest solution is to change the print width in UV then alter the 
CPI in PCL.  You may not have to alter the print width in UV if the 
original developer was prescient enough to plan for expansion.


e.g. ^027E^027l1e64F^027a0l85M^027(s0p16.67h0s3b##DEFFONTNO##T

...where ##DEFFONTNO### is just a tag that is substituted by the actual 
font ID# at runtime.


HTH,

Bill


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*Date:* 7/15/2013 7:32 AM
*Subject:* [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

It's been a while, nice to be back and working again. :)


I'm on a Universe Database;
  
I have a proc full of SORT reports.


I needed to add new fields, but the size of the line is too small. I'm
already using landscape mode and don't have enough space.

I have been testing with PCL, but I was wondering if I could just make the
line longer. Seems to be enough room if I could adjust the right margin.

MARGIN /n/ only changes the left margin.

I never had to deal much with SORT reports in the past, so I though you
Guru's could help.



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/07/13 17:12, randyleesmith wrote:
 SETPTR might be worth looking into as long as I can set it back.

Investigate using a different channel ... I mentioned it recently but try

SETPTR 1,...
followed by
SORT ... LPTR 1

That way, you don't touch whatever's on the user's default channel 0,
and can muck about as much as you like without (in all likelihood)
trampling over the settings for something else.

I use that as a matter of course when I don't want to accidentally mess
up something I don't know about.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread randyleesmith
You all have given me a lot to work with. Thank you.

I forgot to mentioned that the report I'm changing is part of a number of
other similar reports.

They all need to be together in the same printer spool. They are printed
together as one big report. 

Since I don't know, or remember, much about SETPTR I'm not sure if there is
a way to keep everything in the same spooler.

It looks like I need to make CIP and LPI changes too.

I'll need to look up all the parameters for SETPTR.



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/07/13 18:15, randyleesmith wrote:
 You all have given me a lot to work with. Thank you.
 
 I forgot to mentioned that the report I'm changing is part of a number of
 other similar reports.
 
 They all need to be together in the same printer spool. They are printed
 together as one big report. 
 
 Since I don't know, or remember, much about SETPTR I'm not sure if there is
 a way to keep everything in the same spooler.
 
Ummm. If it's part of a bunch of reports, then changing the channel
might well mess things up. I don't think it will if they're just run
sequentially, though.

 It looks like I need to make CIP and LPI changes too.
 
 I'll need to look up all the parameters for SETPTR.
 
I think there are options for holding a print channel open, so you can
send several reports, then do a close and they all go to the OS spooler
as a single job. I don't think that's what you want here.

(off-topic - another useful trick for multiple channels is the summary
report - okay you really need a BASIC program for this - but I've had a
program print several independent reports, saving some data for each and
dumping this to a separate channel, which finally gets closed and
printed as a separate report. I've seen programmers print the individual
reports, then go back and repeat the calculations to print the summary!
That or store the data in some complex data structure ...)

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread randyleesmith
There is a

SP-ASSIGN OHS 

At the start of the Proc

And a

SP-ASSIGN

At the end.

All the report are meant to be held together.


I really did miss this, even if you don't get the answer you wanted to your
question, you sometimes get some great insight to the U2 environment.
Knowledge that can be used somewhere else later. Or sometimes you get the
How to do it a better,other way.

Thanks Wols for the off topic info.



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Re: [U2] SORT reports line length, change right margin?

2013-07-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/07/13 18:50, randyleesmith wrote:
 There is a
 
 SP-ASSIGN OHS 
 
 At the start of the Proc
 
 And a
 
 SP-ASSIGN
 
 At the end.
 
 All the report are meant to be held together.

In which case (If I remember my SP-ASSIGN correctly) changing this one
report to a different print channel most definitely will bugger it up...

That code does hold the print channel open, so all the Pick reports get
lumped into one single OS level job. Using different channels will give
different jobs end of.
 
 
 I really did miss this, even if you don't get the answer you wanted to your
 question, you sometimes get some great insight to the U2 environment.
 Knowledge that can be used somewhere else later. Or sometimes you get the
 How to do it a better,other way.
 
 Thanks Wols for the off topic info.
 
Cheers,
Wol
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[U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

2013-07-15 Thread Lynette LeDoux
Hello all.

The call has come to locate possible data modelling tools (UML) that could 
potentially would connect to our UniVerse system.
Ideas?

L2
(Lynette LeDoux)

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   3. SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
   4. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin?
  (Anthonys Lists)
   5. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Don Robinson)
   6. Re: Mobile phones (Bill Haskett)
   7. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
   8. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Bill Haskett)
   9. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Wols Lists)
  10. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
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Thanks everyone for your information.





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Thanks Tony  Kevin!

Unhappy to see we both ended up on different platforms (GitHub  BitBucket) 
which means people would need to learn 2 different sites, but ecstatic to see 
we both ended up using Git which means people really only need to learn 1 tool 
chain to be able to work with both. 

Cheers,

Dan McGrath
Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street? ?? Suite 1100? ??? Denver, CO 80237 ?? USA
T: +1 720 475 8098 ? E: dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com ? W: u2.rocketsoftware.com




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Subject: [U2] [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free  Open Source Software for the MVDB world

Posted for Kevin Powick
===

Fellow developers, 

I'm happy to announce a new resource for MVDB developers. FOSS4MV! 

FOSS4MV is a community for people that use or develop Free and Open Source 
Software for MVDB platforms, such as D3, OpenQM, jBASE, U2, Reality, Cache, 
etc. As such, it has three major offerings to promote communication and 
collaboration.  A Google+ Community, source code repositories at Bitbucket, and 
a Twitter account to keep you in-the-loop. 

Google+ is a surprisingly useful communications platform that makes it
easy to share information with individuals, groups, or the public at large. 
Some G+ communities have memberships that number in the tens of thousands, and 
I know that many MV developers already have a G+ account. 

Bitbucket, from Atlassian, is a leading provider of source code repository 
hosting using today's two leading source code control platforms, Git and 
Mercurial (Hg). Not only does Bitbucket support the top two SCC platforms, but 
they also allow unlimited, free public and
private** repositories. 

FOSS4MV is set up as a bitbucket Team allowing people to join the team and 
create repositories under the FOSS4MV banner, while still retaining complete 
control over the management of their repositories.
However, there is no requirement to join the FOSS4MV team account to get your 
code on the site. If you're just looking for a good home to share your code, 
but do not wish to manage a repository, let us know via email 
(foss...@gmail.com) and 

Re: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

2013-07-15 Thread randyleesmith
There is MITS. (Assuming its still out there. Been a while since I've been in
the U2-verse.)

When I worked at Zaner-Bloser we looked at getting it as a 3D data mining
tool for marketing.

The thing that stopped us was the time it would take to build the data
cubes. We estimated it would take over a month. 

That was some time ago. It might be better now.



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Re: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Averch
Hi Lynette:

Are looking for structural diagrams like a Class Diagram? This would
involve reading through all of your code and developing the appropriate
structure from the UniBasic code.  We have been doing this internally for a
couple of years at U2logic using our XLr8Editor Eclipse plug-in that reads
and indexes all of your UniBasic code it knows about.

Contact me off-line and we can discuss how to get this done for you.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Lynette LeDoux
lynette.led...@mouser.comwrote:

 Hello all.

 The call has come to locate possible data modelling tools (UML) that could
 potentially would connect to our UniVerse system.
 Ideas?

 L2
 (Lynette LeDoux)
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Re: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Averch
Hi Lynette:

Are looking for structural diagrams like a Class Diagram? This would
involve reading through all of your code and developing the appropriate
structure from the UniBasic code.  We have been doing this internally for a
couple of years at U2logic using our XLr8Editor Eclipse plug-in that reads
and indexes all of your UniBasic code it knows about.

Contact me off-line and we can discuss how to get this done for you.

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Lynette LeDoux
lynette.led...@mouser.comwrote:

 Hello all.

 The call has come to locate possible data modelling tools (UML) that could
 potentially would connect to our UniVerse system.
 Ideas?

 L2
 (Lynette LeDoux)
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Re: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

2013-07-15 Thread Hona, David
Regardless of the toolset, the first hurdle would be to normalise your database 
to look like a relational one. Which is likely to be the greatest hurdle. Data 
dictionaries in U2/PICK are optional are a purely for reporting purposes - they 
can have duplicates and these can be conflicting. Even worse (as if you thought 
it could be) - data dictionaries can be incomplete or wrong. This added to the 
lack of enforcement of data integrity and constraints usually causes these 
toolsets to fail (indeed, even the UV/ODBC driver fails too!)... so good luck!

Rocket released U2 Metadata Manager to assist in this respect and is designed 
to allow forward and backwards capability. Although, support for this in UV is 
limited to the latest official release... so your alternative is UV/ODBC...

For UV/ODBC users - I have always recommended a separate UV account and data 
dictionary that is spotless. For some this is the best option - why go against 
the flow - when you create your own stream...


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Subject: [U2] UML mapping tool for MV (UniVerse)

Hello all.

The call has come to locate possible data modelling tools (UML) that could 
potentially would connect to our UniVerse system.
Ideas?

L2
(Lynette LeDoux)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Mobile phones (Symeon Breen)
   2. Re: [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free  Open Source Software for the MVDB
  world (Daniel McGrath)
   3. SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
   4. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin?
  (Anthonys Lists)
   5. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Don Robinson)
   6. Re: Mobile phones (Bill Haskett)
   7. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
   8. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Bill Haskett)
   9. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Wols Lists)
  10. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
  11. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Wols Lists)
  12. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (randyleesmith)
  13. Re: SORT reports line length, change right margin? (Wols Lists)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:20:14 +0100
From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com
To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Mobile phones
Message-ID: 004d01ce8155$a9f67e30$fde37a90$@gmail.com
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Thanks everyone for your information.





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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:42 +
From: Daniel McGrath dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free  Open Source Software for the
MVDB world
Message-ID:
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Thanks Tony  Kevin!

Unhappy to see we both ended up on different platforms (GitHub  BitBucket) 
which means people would need to learn 2 different sites, but ecstatic to see 
we both ended up using Git which means people really only need to learn 1 tool 
chain to be able to work with both.

Cheers,

Dan McGrath
Managing Director, U2 Servers Lab
Rocket Software
4600 South Ulster Street? ?? Suite 1100? ??? Denver, CO 80237 ?? USA
T: +1 720 475 8098 ? E: dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com ? W: u2.rocketsoftware.com




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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:47 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] [ANN] FOSS4MV - Free  Open Source Software for the MVDB world

Posted for Kevin Powick
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Fellow developers,

I'm happy to announce a new resource for MVDB developers. FOSS4MV!

FOSS4MV is a community for people that use or develop Free and Open Source 
Software for MVDB platforms, such as D3, OpenQM,