Re: [U2] Why Pick U2 ?
Amen Rob. T-SQL bites. So I write CLR Sprocs or do the heavy lifting in C# and then call very minimal Sprocs. On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Rob Sobers rsob...@gmail.com wrote: I have to heartily disagree that U2 has a sophisticated business rules engine. U2 Basic is such a limited language. It barely has functions, and you have to home brew almost everything. Microsoft's T-SQL stored procedures are just as horrible to write as U2 Basic programs. As Jeff Atwood put it -- Stored procedures should be considered database assembly language. [1] Why do you think Microsoft now allows you to call CLR code from stored procedures? Because it's so much more efficient to work with the data (i.e., enforce the business rules) in a modern language like C# that has *actual libraries* for doing useful things. I agree that business rules shouldn't be on the client -- but who says they have to be in the database? Look at the ever-so-popular MVC architecture. The models (i.e., the code that works with the database and enforces all of the business rules) are isolated from the views (i.e., the client/presentation code) entirely. -Rob [1]: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2004/10/who-needs-stored-procedures-anyways.html On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Kevin King precisonl...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for what David said. Yes, there's the limitation that BASIC is the only native supported language (not factoring external connectors), but as a language native to the environment, this BASIC is really pretty rich by comparison to the stored procedure languages of other DBs. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [OT] Site blocked
Just use Tor Project and you can browse anything. They hide/relay all your requests and the network has no idea what sites you are browsing. On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Glorfield, Gordon gglorfi...@vertisinc.com wrote: One would think. But he just informed me that in the version they are using they can only make exceptions for individual links. Took almost 2 weeks to get an exception in place to access the Request for Comments Open Letter that was posted prior to the board election. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:38 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Site blocked Your admins should be able to exempt u2tech.files.wordpress.com while leaving wordpress.com locked down... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Glorfield, Gordon Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 1:35 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] Site blocked Our network admins use a product called Websense to restrict access to certain web sites such as Facebook and Myspace. For some reason Websense blocks my access to the wordpress.com domain saying that it is categorized as a Black Friday Site. Is there a mirror site for these helpful documents like the one below? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Rob Sobers Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:53 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Does anyone have an MV BASIC cheatsheet? Here's a cheat sheet for the UniBasic debugger: http://u2tech.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/unibasic-debugger-cheat-sheet-v1-0 -0.pdf -Rob ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
I do think Bill's issues may be legit, but he is not responding like someone who contacted the vendor and attempted to resolve the issue. He speaks like someone that saw some issues and considered them egregious but did not follow up to see if the problems were a black swan or white one just assumed the whole technology was problematic without investigation / speaking to the experts. If Bill wants to prove my assumption wrong by saying 'I contacted this person by email and this one by phone # and after a hour conversation or 6 emails no resolution occurred' I would feel like he really tried to see whether his issues are typical or edge case. I do think in an ideal world we never should have to contact vendors it should all just work, but the windows software 'stack' lends itself to lots of side effects that specific vendors will have seen with their software. I had a Postcript printer card that corrupted my hard disk (very bizarre side effect) and windows search scanning a constantly churning XML file on iTunes brought my 64-bit 16 gig of RAM quad core desktop to it's knees so yeah windows software stack things can get really ugly in certain combinations. We have a pretty complex millions of rows transfer/Import/Data Warehouse we are/were considering Bluefinity for and my co-wroker Angela and me and our U2 genius all worked with them in a pre-sales situation and they helped us explained many options and got a HUGE IMPORT working that showed they could handle very high volume and presented us with a few ways and scenarios their customers work with large data to give us some other options for our complex data warehouse loading scenarios. They do seem to know their product, have some successful customers and are excited to help make things work if given the data that things are not working whereas I have met with many vendors that just don't care. But that being said maybe Bill did contact people at Bluefinity and have bad experiences and just is not telling us and has a legit gripe because their tech support dropped the ball, but I don't think he has told us enough to come to the conclusion he tried and we ain't psychic either. Telling is what bad experience he had with their tech support in more concrete terms would make me feel like he did due diligence if I had to take sides then we could feel like Bluefinity let him down when he gave them some data about what does not work if he gives us some info about his contact with them. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: Tis the customers fault if they do not inform the supplier of any problems - until suppliers become psychic that is ! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only wish I could use it myself. :-) Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM: Bill, BlueFinity pays very close attention to its customers. We pride ourselves on our responsiveness to customer issues and have many, many testimonials from our customer base that testify to this fact. If customers do not communicate issues to us how are we supposed to assist? David -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET David: If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your customers. Bill David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM: Charlie, I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments about mv.NET. Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team? On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being very expensive? Compared to what else? What mv.NET process(es) are you classifying as a resource HOG? Again, to my knowledge, BlueFinity support has received absolutely nothing relating to this issue from your organization. What kind of data movement pattern is being performed at the store you mention? Did anyone at Inland Truck ask BlueFinity for assistance in diagnosing this issue? It seems to me as though a little more communication with BlueFinity support might me to the benefit of everyone here. As for U2.NET, I refer you to Tony Gravagno's post on this thread. David Cooper Lead developer BlueFinity International __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For
[U2] .NET what DLL do I add reference to to get UniObjects.OpenSession
working. UniObjects is not a recognized type till I reference the correct DLL. Fishing through the dozens of DLLs I have found in UniData Resource kit etc. none of them seem to be this one ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] OpenSession throwing 81011 error
UniSession us = null;
try
{
// us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10,
userid, password, TALK2UDT,ud);
us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10, userid,
password, TALK2UDT);
}
SocketException caught!!!SystemNo such host is known[IBM U2][UODOTNET
- UNIRPC][ErrorCode=81011] The host name is not valid, or the host is
not responding Source: UniRPCConnection Class Method: Void
set_Host(System.String) at
IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniRPCConnection.set_Host(String value)
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Re: [U2] OpenSession throwing 81011 error
I am getting closer. I connect sometimes and not others. When I have
consistent behavior I will get back to the group.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:32 PM, doug chanco d...@chancofamily.com wrote:
Also have you tried pinging the IP to make sure its valid and can be
accessed? Are you running any kind of firewall on the system you are trying
to access?
dougc
Symeon Breen wrote:
Is unirpcd licenced and running on the u2 server ? also try putting the
full path to the u2 account instead of just TALK2UDT.
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Sent: 05 April 2010 15:16
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] OpenSession throwing 81011 error
UniSession us = null;
try
{
// us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10,
userid, password, TALK2UDT,ud);
us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10, userid,
password, TALK2UDT);
}
SocketException caught!!!SystemNo such host is known[IBM U2][UODOTNET
- UNIRPC][ErrorCode=81011] The host name is not valid, or the host is
not responding Source: UniRPCConnection Class Method: Void
set_Host(System.String) at
IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniRPCConnection.set_Host(String value)
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Re: [U2] OpenSession throwing 81011 error
I am connecting fine now. Thanks everyone for your input.
They just gave me bad session info.
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Boydell, Stuart
stuart.boyd...@spotless.com.au wrote:
Charles,
At least with UV, I'm pretty sure that the host name/ip needs to be
registered in either DNS or the etc\hosts file of the client.
Stuart Boydell
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Subject: [U2] OpenSession throwing 81011 error
UniSession us = null;
try
{
// us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10,
userid, password, TALK2UDT,ud);
us = UniObjects.OpenSession(10.10.10.10, userid,
password, TALK2UDT);
}
SocketException caught!!!SystemNo such host is known[IBM U2][UODOTNET
- UNIRPC][ErrorCode=81011] The host name is not valid, or the host is
not responding Source: UniRPCConnection Class Method: Void
set_Host(System.String) at
IBMU2.UODOTNET.UniRPCConnection.set_Host(String value)
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