Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-06 Thread Brian Leach
Andy,

Sorry to disagree but M$ do generally provide excellent documentation through 
MSDN - something I wish certain other vendors would copy. As for RTF - it is 
ugly but it is a published standard.

And M$ have announced support for the OpenDoc formats in the new Office.

Brian

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On 12/6/05, Bjorn Behr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The RTF Solution works 100%. (Just wish M$ would make their reading 
material
> more understandable:))


Not to make this thread go off topic, but if M$ would make their
reading material more understandable they wouldn't be able to
monopolize the market anymore...that'd be a shame, now wouldn't it? ;)

It would be nice if all word processing companies could come up with a
"standard" and all use the OpenDocument format. That's my humble
opinion FWIW.

Andy
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Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-06 Thread Andy Pflueger
On 12/6/05, Bjorn Behr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The RTF Solution works 100%. (Just wish M$ would make their reading material
> more understandable:))


Not to make this thread go off topic, but if M$ would make their
reading material more understandable they wouldn't be able to
monopolize the market anymore...that'd be a shame, now wouldn't it? ;)

It would be nice if all word processing companies could come up with a
"standard" and all use the OpenDocument format. That's my humble
opinion FWIW.

Andy
--
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Oops. Wrong One. 'Do it yourself'. Yes, that's it.
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RE: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-06 Thread Bjorn Behr
Thanks Craig.

The RTF Solution works 100%. (Just wish M$ would make their reading material
more understandable:))

Regards
Bjorn 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Bennett
Sent: 05 December 2005 01:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

Hi Bjorn,
> We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.
> 
> What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
> place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
> landscape format?

I don't think you will be able to do this from a text file -- word will 
obey line breaks but no other formatting.

Have you had a look at the RTF format? It will work in any version of 
word and will let you do what you want.

A file something like this should work:


{\rtf1\ansi\deff0 {\fonttbl {\f0 Times New Roman;}}
\paperw16834 \paperh11909
\margl1440 \margr1900 \margt1800 \margb1800
\landscape
\f0\fs20
Line 1 Page 1\line Line 2 Page 1\page
Line 1 Page 2\line Line 2 Page 2\page
Line 1 Page 3\line Line 2 Page 3
}

This is a three page file \line replaces CRLF and \page replaces page 
feed characters. Word takes care of wrapping. When using landscape in 
RTF, you need to specify paper size and margins (in this case A4).

If you wanted to use a fixed width font replace Times New Roman with 
Courier.

This information was taken from some of our RTF generating programs, but 
originally from the RTF Pocket Guide from O'Reilly.

HTH,


Craig
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Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-04 Thread Dave Taylor
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- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document


> Hi Bjorn,
> > We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.
> >
> > What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
> > place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
> > landscape format?
>
> I don't think you will be able to do this from a text file -- word will
> obey line breaks but no other formatting.
>
> Have you had a look at the RTF format? It will work in any version of
> word and will let you do what you want.
>
> A file something like this should work:
>
>
> {\rtf1\ansi\deff0 {\fonttbl {\f0 Times New Roman;}}
> \paperw16834 \paperh11909
> \margl1440 \margr1900 \margt1800 \margb1800
> \landscape
> \f0\fs20
> Line 1 Page 1\line Line 2 Page 1\page
> Line 1 Page 2\line Line 2 Page 2\page
> Line 1 Page 3\line Line 2 Page 3
> }
>
> This is a three page file \line replaces CRLF and \page replaces page
> feed characters. Word takes care of wrapping. When using landscape in
> RTF, you need to specify paper size and margins (in this case A4).
>
> If you wanted to use a fixed width font replace Times New Roman with
> Courier.
>
> This information was taken from some of our RTF generating programs, but
> originally from the RTF Pocket Guide from O'Reilly.
>
> HTH,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-04 Thread Craig Bennett

Hi Bjorn,

We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.

What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
landscape format?


I don't think you will be able to do this from a text file -- word will 
obey line breaks but no other formatting.


Have you had a look at the RTF format? It will work in any version of 
word and will let you do what you want.


A file something like this should work:


{\rtf1\ansi\deff0 {\fonttbl {\f0 Times New Roman;}}
\paperw16834 \paperh11909
\margl1440 \margr1900 \margt1800 \margb1800
\landscape
\f0\fs20
Line 1 Page 1\line Line 2 Page 1\page
Line 1 Page 2\line Line 2 Page 2\page
Line 1 Page 3\line Line 2 Page 3
}

This is a three page file \line replaces CRLF and \page replaces page 
feed characters. Word takes care of wrapping. When using landscape in 
RTF, you need to specify paper size and margins (in this case A4).


If you wanted to use a fixed width font replace Times New Roman with 
Courier.


This information was taken from some of our RTF generating programs, but 
originally from the RTF Pocket Guide from O'Reilly.


HTH,


Craig
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RE: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-02 Thread Tony Gravagno
Bjorn Behr wrote:
> We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.
> What I would like to know is does anybody know what
> characters I need to place in the document so that when
> it is opened up in Word, it is in landscape format?

In order to get Word to do things you need to provide more than plain text,
you need to provide specific instructions.  Of course instructions need to
be formatted, and there are different ways to format instructions for Word,
including XML and HTML, using macros from existing Word docs/templates, or
you can use Word add-ins to pump data to/from Word and U2.  See an example
of a product that was written (not currently offered anymore, subject to
change based on "encouragement" from the market) to do this:
http:// removethisNeebula-RnD .com/products/doc.htm

For your purposes right now, you can use HTML as a base rather than plain
text.  Below this note is full HTML source which can be used as the base
for a landscape document.  Save this HTML page with a .DOC extension.  Word
will opens it, but to be considered a real Word Doc the user must SaveAs
DOC.  There is no getting around this: again, if you want Word to do
special things you must somehow integrate with it.

Rather than plain text, if you do use some method of using Word as a server
and pumping data into it, then you can execute a macro like this to change
the orientation:
  Sub SetLandscape()
ActiveDocument.PageSetup.Orientation = wdOrientLandscape
  End Sub
Combining the HTML provided below with macros, you could save your HTML as
.DOC, then open Word and using command-line switches cause it to execute
your macros, SaveAs DOC, then mail this final document to users.  Lots of
ways to skin this cat.

Rather than using Universe as your base, it might make more sense to ask
Universe to fire up a Windows process which will then read your text into a
formatted Word document (template), perform the orientation change, then
save the document where it can be used, e-mailed, etc.  You can even tie
this to standard Word mailmerge functions.  You can still use your BASIC
business rules, and data and everything else, it's just being initiated
from somewhere else.  For this, you can use tools like UO, UO.NET, mv.NET,
or PDP.NET as the data conduit and for executing your BASIC code and
returning data.  My preference would be to use the more advanced features
of the Visual Studio Tools for Office in conjunction with .NET, and then
use mv.NET as the link to U2.  I'll be happy to work on a project like this
if requested.

Before jumping into development, people might want to consider firing off
an instance of Word every time they want to generate a document.  Not only
is this a very bad use of resources but it's subject to many issues.
Opening an instance of Word (or other MS Office apps) in a Windows Service
is a straight-forward process for someone who knows how, but there are MANY
issues that need to be addressed, and Microsoft strongly discourages using
these user-oriented products in a server context.  Having a lot of
experience in this area, I also discourage that sort of usage, and that's
one of the reasons I no longer offer NebulaDoc as it was originally
designed.

HTH,
Tony Gravagno
Nebula Research and Development
TG@ removethisNebula-RnD .com

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RE: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-02 Thread Ross Morrissey
You might try saving the XXX.DOC as a new file type XXX.DOCL, then associate
the .DOCL file type with word.exe run with a command line switch that
referenced a macro to switch to landscape when it started.

Thanks, Ross.

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Subject: [U2] [UV] - word Document

We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.

What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
landscape format?

Many Thanks
Bjorn Behr
Programmer (TSD)

Tel : +27 11 523 4202
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Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-02 Thread Ron White

Bjorn Behr wrote:


We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.

What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
landscape format?

Many Thanks
Bjorn Behr
Programmer (TSD)

Tel : +27 11 523 4202
Email   : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Web Site: www.supergrp.com

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For the document to appear as landscape in Word you will need to
change the page orientation property under Page Setup.  I have never
tried to do this from UniVerse but there is likely a way to do it.

Ron White
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Re: [U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-02 Thread Andy Pflueger
On 12/2/05, Bjorn Behr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.
>
> What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
> place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
> landscape format?


I did a quick Google search and found something stating that (per
Epson) there aren't any real ASCII codes to change the printed
documents orientation to "landscape". However, I do believe there's a
PCL compatible code for changing a printers orientation. Does the
document have to be opened with Word or why not generate the document
in PDF which to my understanding is very much PCL compliant? I'm not
sure if a Word document is PCL compliant using the "text/word"
document type.

HTH,
Andy
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[U2] [UV] - word Document

2005-12-02 Thread Bjorn Behr
We generate a 'text/word' document from Universe.

What I would like to know is does anybody know what characters I need to
place in the document so that when it is opened up in Word, it is in
landscape format?

Many Thanks
Bjorn Behr
Programmer (TSD)

Tel : +27 11 523 4202
Email   : [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Web Site: www.supergrp.com
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