Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-06 Thread George Gallen
Where outside Philadelphia are you? I'm in Camden Co. And what local places 
have you found (I'm always looking,
Since Radio Shack is becoming less and less of an option these days.

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So, the $20 question...

For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some
parts laying around, or ???
Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't
have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from
an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any
other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores.

If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the
shipping, waiting, and minimum order?

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-06 Thread Robert Porter
Ok... since this topic is so OT anyway.
 
I have an OLD portable Tektronix oscilloscope that's not working right if 
anyone's interested. I can pull it down and check the model # if anyone's 
interested. It's been on the shelf for a LONG TIME. Something wasn't working on 
the screen. I don't remember if it was horizontal or vertical, or off to the 
side or what. I remember thinking that I'd fix it someday, and never got around 
to it... I'm sure the battery is probably shot by now. I think there's a couple 
probes in the bag too.
 
If anyone is interested, pay for the shipping and it's yours. It might fit in a 
medium flat rate box ($12.50), I know it will fit in a large (~$17). Of course, 
these are domestic rates, if someone wants it over the pond, same offer - pay 
for shipping, but it will probably be more than it's worth...
 
 
 
 
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-06 Thread Bob Wyatt
Same... How weird is that? AC Expressway is about 3 miles away...
Haven't found one in years... Last good supplier I knew of was in Camden...
many, many years ago.

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Where outside Philadelphia are you? I'm in Camden Co. And what local places
have you found (I'm always looking, Since Radio Shack is becoming less and
less of an option these days.

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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

So, the $20 question...

For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some
parts laying around, or ???
Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't
have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from
an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any
other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores.

If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the
shipping, waiting, and minimum order?

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-06 Thread Don Robinson
Robert,
 
Since you offered, I'll accept.
 If you know someone more deserving, that's fine.

My first love is electronic hardware but I make a living by programming because 
it pays better. :-)

My address is:

Don Robinson
4189 Cannon Gate Dr.
Cincinnati, OH 45245


TIA,

Don Robinson
513-706-6149 (Cell)
donr_w...@yahoo.com
 
 
 


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Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


Ok... since this topic is so OT anyway.

I have an OLD portable Tektronix oscilloscope that's not working right if 
anyone's interested. I can pull it down and check the model # if anyone's 
interested. It's been on the shelf for a LONG TIME. Something wasn't working on 
the screen. I don't remember if it was horizontal or vertical, or off to the 
side or what. I remember thinking that I'd fix it someday, and never got around 
to it... I'm sure the battery is probably shot by now. I think there's a couple 
probes in the bag too.

If anyone is interested, pay for the shipping and it's yours. It might fit in a 
medium flat rate box ($12.50), I know it will fit in a large (~$17). Of course, 
these are domestic rates, if someone wants it over the pond, same offer - pay 
for shipping, but it will probably be more than it's worth...




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Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-05 Thread Robert Frailey
I fixed tv's in the 80's, Msgt in the Airforce doing avaionics ,  unidata 
and the network for UTMD. I have lots of containers full of resistors, caps, 
ic's, diodes, pots. you name it I probably have it stored away. I used to 
build all kinds of circuits, lately been fixing the all the kids cars. I 
usually can fix anything mechanical or electronic. just have a knack.


Robert
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So, the $20 question...

For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some
parts laying around, or ???
Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that 
doesn't
have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was 
from

an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any
other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores.

If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the
shipping, waiting, and minimum order?



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Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst 
night.

I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and
transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v
cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on
the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be
transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up.
Robert
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I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on 
in

the MV community   :)




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OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

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?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is
like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull
the button and wire in a solid state relay.
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magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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[U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one 
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't 
easily get to
Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a 
relay,
So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do
That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet,
And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push
The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back
When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. 

George

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM
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Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one 
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't 
easily get to
Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a 
relay,
So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do
That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Rutherford, Marc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solenoid


Marc Rutherford
Principal Programmer Analyst
Advanced Bionics LLC
661) 362 1754

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Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a magnet, 
And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would push The 
other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it back When the 
eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. 

George

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM
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Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one 
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't 
easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi 
trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just 
push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would do 
That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Larry Hiscock
It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local
electronics store...

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services

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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a
magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would
push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it
back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. 

George

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To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't
easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi
trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just
push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would
do That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
Ahh yes, the solenoid - couldn't think of the name. would make things easier.

Thanks for the brain jump start.

George

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It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local
electronics store...

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a
magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would
push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it
back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. 

George

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't
easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi
trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just
push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would
do That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread William Brutzman
George:

1. Consider using a solid-state relay.
2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] littleBits.
3. I also like www.Mouser.com.

--Bill


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:

 OK.

 I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use
 one GPIO port.
 Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't
 easily get to
 Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with a
 relay,
 So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button
 directly.

 Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
 Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch
 Yoke
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

 But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would
 do
 That as it's primary function.

 George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11015

Bingo.

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Ahh yes, the solenoid - couldn't think of the name. would make things easier.

Thanks for the brain jump start.

George

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

It's called a solenoid, and you can probably find one at your local
electronics store...

Larry Hiscock
Western Computer Services

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Just had a thought. Might be able to do this with a rod attached to a
magnet, And then energize and create a like poled magnetic field which would
push The other magnet away - connected together with a spring to pull it
back When the eletro magnet gets deenergized. Hmmm. 

George

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 11:25 AM
To: U2 Users
Subject: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use one
GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and can't
easily get to Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi
trigger with a relay, So I plan to mount the device, and have something just
push the button directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then back?
Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that would
do That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Porter
The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over 
solenoids.
You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator  
(Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - 
same ideas/concerns apply).
 
Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty picky.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey

magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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George:

1. Consider using a solid-state relay.
2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] 
littleBits.

3. I also like www.Mouser.com.

--Bill


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen 
ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:



OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use
one GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and 
can't

easily get to
Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with 
a

relay,
So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button
directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then 
back?

Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch
Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that 
would

do
That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey

put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes
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The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over 
solenoids.

You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator
(Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so long - 
same ideas/concerns apply).


Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty 
picky.





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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey
Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like 
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button 
and wire in a solid state relay.
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magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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From: William Brutzman bi...@hkmetalcraft.com

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:43 AM
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George:

1. Consider using a solid-state relay.
2. There has been much buzz over things like [a] Arduino and [b] 
littleBits.

3. I also like www.Mouser.com.

--Bill


On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM, George Gallen 
ggal...@wyanokegroup.comwrote:



OK.

I'm trying to use a Raspberry pi to push a button, but only want to use
one GPIO port.
Basically, I'm trying to get the pi to turn a device on or off - and 
can't

easily get to
Where the button on the device's board is at to have the pi trigger with 
a

relay,
So I plan to mount the device, and have something just push the button
directly.

Do they make a device that when energized,  will push a rod out then 
back?

Right now, my only option (maybe not only), would be to create a Scotch
Yoke
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch_yoke

But for space contraints, and ease, I'd rather put in something that 
would

do
That as it's primary function.

George

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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey

opps  put a diode across the relay coil to remove spikes
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put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes
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From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over 
solenoids.

You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator
(Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so 
long - same ideas/concerns apply).


Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty 
picky.





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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey

dam resistors always getting in the way
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put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes
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From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org

To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over 
solenoids.

You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator
(Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so 
long - same ideas/concerns apply).


Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty 
picky.





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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
That's their job. They are the anti-borg!

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey
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dam resistors always getting in the way
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:09 AM
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 put a diode across the resistor to remove spikes
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 From: Robert Porter ropor...@ochsner.org
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


 The other option is a linear actuator - which personally I prefer over 
 solenoids.
 You should easily find something with googling ardiuno linear actuator
 (Lot more out there for the Arduino just because it's been around so 
 long - same ideas/concerns apply).

 Watch your current draw even with a relay. The RPi GPIO ports are pretty 
 picky.




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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
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Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like 
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button 
and wire in a solid state relay.
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 magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

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?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like 
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button 
and wire in a solid state relay.
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From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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 magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing of 
the project
The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm 
looking to automate
A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy it 
unless I 
Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product.



-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like 
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button 
and wire in a solid state relay.
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Symeon Breen
I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in
the MV community   :)




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OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

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?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button
and wire in a solid state relay.
- Original Message -
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To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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 magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Porter
Is it a momentary switch?  If so wire it in parallel. Either button or RPi 
could then fire it.


 George Gallen ggal...@wyanokegroup.com 5/3/2013 11:26 AM 
It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing of 
the project
The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm 
looking to automate
A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy it 
unless I 
Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product.



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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like 
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the button 
and wire in a solid state relay.
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread George Gallen
Yeah, that would work as well - once I know it works. The unit I bought 
actually has an RS232 interface
Vs USB - I'm hoping they also supply interfacing documentation as well. I've 
got a 12/5 volt power supply
That was meant to power external 5 1/4 drives - so I'll use that to power the 
pi, and any other devices.
What is nice, is I should be able to remove the batteries from the device as 
well, and power the BP machine
With that power supply.  As time goes on, I'm looking to interface in a Pulse 
Ox reader as well.  And I'm
Trying to design a medication administration device. Hooked together will 
import the SPO2 , HR and BP and
If acceptable - deliver a medication, otherwise, send an email out. Seems like 
a nice project for a pi.

The hardest part is trying to figure a way to dispense different shaped pills 
without having to have
Some different dispenser for each sized/shape pill. If I use a circular type 
dispenser, it becomes difficult
To store more than a weeks worth of pills (of the same type) in the circular 
dispenser.

Some pills can be 2-3mm and circular in size, others could be 2cm and oblong. 

I've seen med delivery devices, but none that had any smarts as to not deliver.

Should be nice project to learn using the pi and controlling things, as well 
have something functional
That is needed when I'm done.


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter
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Is it a momentary switch?  If so wire it in parallel. Either button or RPi 
could then fire it.


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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey

just wire around it and leave the button in place
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


It may come to pulling the buttons eventually - but for initially testing 
of the project
The external pushing will work better, and doesn't break the device. I'm 
looking to automate
A Blood pressure machine that has a USB interface - I'd rather not destroy 
it unless I

Know it's possible to be able to automate this particular product.



-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Frailey

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the 
button

and wire in a solid state relay.
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Frailey
Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. 
I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and 
transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v 
cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on 
the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be 
transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up.

Robert
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From: Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com

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I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in
the MV community   :)




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OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

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?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is like
going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull the 
button

and wire in a solid state relay.
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To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Robert Houben
Have to say, I'm enjoying this line of conversation, too.  I did some RD work 
with a guy who created a PC card that pretended to be RS232, so PICK could 
drive it, but actually drove a wireless.  We did some pretty fun things with 
that device. It died due to problems getting permission to use a meaningful 
radio frequency for what they really wanted it for.  I believe I have a floppy 
somewhere (probably not readable any more) with the BASIC code that drove the 
whole thing.  Also have code that drove a Motorola pager from PICK.

I have to agree that every once in a while it's fun to play around with 
something challenging and real, where digital and real worlds collide...

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Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night.
I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and transposed 
the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v cap and blew the 
supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on the brain today ) and 
the right cap and all is well. I seem to be transposing numbers a lot lately. 
Brain damage finally showing up.
Robert
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I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in
 the MV community   :)




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 OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

 Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

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 ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

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 Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is
 like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull
 the button and wire in a solid state relay.
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 magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Stewart Leicester
I agree with your approach: prototype the button-pusher with a solenoid to 
ensure your idea works *before* you tear apart the working hardware -- a normal 
engineering approach.

Be sure to use a diode across the solenoid coil as was suggested elsewhere. If 
you're unsure of a circuit, I'm sure many of us could provide one if you ask.

Good luck!

Stewart
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Bob Wyatt
So, the $20 question...

For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some
parts laying around, or ???
Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't
have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from
an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any
other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores.

If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the
shipping, waiting, and minimum order?



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Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

Off subject but just stupid in my case, I lost vertical on my tv lst night. 
I opened it up found a bad cap in the vert supply 10uf at 100v and
transposed the numbers when going throught the caps, inserted a 100uf 10v
cap and blew the supply resistor. A new resistor ( why I have resistor on
the brain today ) and the right cap and all is well. I seem to be
transposing numbers a lot lately. Brain damage finally showing up.
Robert
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To: 'U2 Users List' u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


I love this conversation - great to see some really geeky stuff going on in
 the MV community   :)




 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George 
 Gallen
 Sent: 03 May 2013 17:20
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

 OK. Nevermind, I got what you mean.

 Not pull as push/pull, but rather remove.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George 
 Gallen
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:18 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

 ?? not sure what you mean by pull the button?

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert 
 Frailey
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:12 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

 Having a Pi and using it to actuate a solenoid to push a button is 
 like going back into the dark ages with the star ship enterprise. Pull 
 the button and wire in a solid state relay.
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Frailey rfrai...@utahmed.com
 To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?


 magnetic solenoid and a return spring
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Re: [U2] [way ot] - Electronic Button Purshers?

2013-05-03 Thread Stewart Leicester
Both adafruit.com and spark fun.com carry solenoids that will work and they 
also have tutorials that'll help.

Amazon also has lots of stuff if you already kinda know what you want. If you 
want things that'll interface with a micro like the RPi or Arduino, just put in 
a search for 'arduino solenoid' and you'll get a fair number of hits.

Stewart

On May 3, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Bob Wyatt bwyatt_...@comcast.net wrote:

So, the $20 question...

For this part, you may have found it locally at a Radio Shack, had some
parts laying around, or ???
Here outside Philadelphia, I continue to seek a parts supplier that doesn't
have a $20 minimum order for parts not normally stocked. Even that was from
an internet parts supplier, so it's hurry up and wait. Haven't found any
other local brick and mortar (outside Philadelphia) stores.

If not at Radio Shack, where are you getting parts and skirting the
shipping, waiting, and minimum order?


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