RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Jerry Banker
The DF header file doesn't contain any data. You can resize each of the
part files individually. However if your algorithm is correct the files
will probably be close to the same size.


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Hi,
I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
file, or against each of the part files defined within the DEFINE.DF
ommand? 

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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Anthony Youngman
Maintain it against the part files (mind you, I'd just declare them
DYNAMIC and let UV sort it out).

In a distributed file, each individual part file is just an ordinary
file, with a little bit of extra logic that hashes the ID to say is
this record permitted in this file. You can treat the partfile exactly
as if it were a normal file, except that any record that doesn't pass
this test will suffer a write failure if you try to save it. If you open
the header file, as you call it, then another extra bit of logic gets
invoked that works out which partfile to write it to.

Cheers,
Wol

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Hi,
I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
file, or against each of the part files defined within the DEFINE.DF
ommand? 

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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Perry Taylor
Two things.  1)  

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Hi,
I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
file, or against each of the part files defined within the DEFINE.DF
ommand? 

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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Jerry Banker
Who told you that you couldn't use 64 bit files?

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Maintain it against the part files (mind you, I'd just declare them
DYNAMIC and let UV sort it out).

In a distributed file, each individual part file is just an ordinary
file, with a little bit of extra logic that hashes the ID to say is
this record permitted in this file. You can treat the partfile exactly
as if it were a normal file, except that any record that doesn't pass
this test will suffer a write failure if you try to save it. If you open
the header file, as you call it, then another extra bit of logic gets
invoked that works out which partfile to write it to.

Cheers,
Wol

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Hi,
I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
file, or against each of the part files defined within the DEFINE.DF
ommand? 

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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Perry Taylor
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Hi,
I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
file, or against each of the part files defined within the DEFINE.DF
ommand? 

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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Perry Taylor
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I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
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RE: [U2] [UV] - Distributed Files

2007-06-19 Thread Normandin, Jerry
64bit on Linux? No Worries, it's supported! Who told you it wasn't?
Maybe someone who isn't familiar with the platform.  Linux had 64bit
file support for MANY years and Universe also supports it!

Read this:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/data/u2/pubs/whitepapers/The64-BitQu
estion.pdf

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I'm looking at implementing Universe distributed files.  We are moving a
UV app from TRU64 to LINUX on Intel, and unfortunately that means we
will lose the luxury of 64bit files.  I've got the files converted to
distributed files no problem, but I'm trying to get my head round file
sizing.  Do I need to maintain the  file sizing against the DF header
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Re: [U2] UV - Distributed files

2006-05-18 Thread asvin . dattani
Hi Jerry,

Actually, I know about multi-data files too... I used to use them on Pick 
R83, to simulate what Universe later implemented much more cleanly as 
distributed files. 

Part numbers dont have to be sequential and dont have to start at 1 ( I 
didnt know that until I was told quite recently...), but cannot be zero. 
You could if you wanted to use the whole year as a part number if you 
wished, so you could have part numbers 2000, 2001, 2002 etc.

However, how often are you going to be select just the year 2000 data? It 
would probably make sense to have a part file for each of the more recent 
years, and put the rest in a bucket. That way you retain all the 
advantages of using a distributed file, but minimise the disadvantages

cheers,

asvin



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Since you seem to know a little about distributed (as opposed to
multi-data files), I have a question. What do you do with year 2000?
I've recently gotten into distributed files and was wondering how others
treat year 0 records. Can there be a part number 0?

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I suspect that the Ron is talking about distributed files..
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