RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Have a good weekend and remember, the decaffeinated brand is JUST as
tasty!!!

:)

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OK SORRY for venting. Up to early with too much coffee.

My apologies... Thanks y'all for slapping me back into reality..

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> "Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all
> doubt"
>
> You will find that IBM DOES publish a Bug Report and Fixes for each
> release.
> In fact, they can be retrieved on-line by anyone, by going to :
>
> https://www-927.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support/u2techconnect/buildmatrix
> .a
> sp
>
> Now, as to our pending retirement and your distaste for such matters, one
> must ask which is worse...
>
> The facts that you believe many people here are seemingly wasting their
> time
> on such an old and terrible product...
>
> Or, that given you hate the product so much, that you are here at all...
>
>
> Dave
>
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>
> More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that remain
> unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that was a
> month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins apart.
>
> UV bites big.
>
> IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES on
> each
> release.
>
> But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
> development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.
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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread GarryS
OK SORRY for venting. Up to early with too much coffee. 

My apologies... Thanks y'all for slapping me back into reality.. 

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> 
> "Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all
> doubt"
> 
> You will find that IBM DOES publish a Bug Report and Fixes for each
> release.
> In fact, they can be retrieved on-line by anyone, by going to :
> 
> https://www-927.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support/u2techconnect/buildmatrix
> .a
> sp
> 
> Now, as to our pending retirement and your distaste for such matters, one
> must ask which is worse...
> 
> The facts that you believe many people here are seemingly wasting their
> time
> on such an old and terrible product...
> 
> Or, that given you hate the product so much, that you are here at all...
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
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> 
> More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that remain
> unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that was a
> month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins apart.
> 
> UV bites big.
> 
> IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES on
> each
> release.
> 
> But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
> development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.
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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Bob Woodward


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> Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization
> 
> "Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove
all
> doubt"
> 
> You will find that IBM DOES publish a Bug Report and Fixes for each
> release.
> In fact, they can be retrieved on-line by anyone, by going to :
> 
> https://www-
> 927.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support/u2techconnect/buildmatrix.a
> sp
> 
> Now, as to our pending retirement and your distaste for such matters,
one
> must ask which is worse...
> 
> The facts that you believe many people here are seemingly wasting
their
> time
> on such an old and terrible product...
> 
> Or, that given you hate the product so much, that you are here at
all...
> 
> 
> Dave
> 
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> 
> More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that
remain
> unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that
was a
> month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins
apart.
> 
> UV bites big.
> 
> IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES
on
> each
> release.
> 
> But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
> development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.
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Re: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread BobJ
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"Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all
doubt"
"Never wrestle with a Pig.  You have to get down in the mud and the Pig 
likes it".
Abraham Lincoln
It is an exercise for the reader to decide which poster is the target of 
this quote. :)
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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Wendy Smoak
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> But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
> development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.

If you have a problem with the software, I would advise not taking it
out on the people who are VOLUNTEERING their time to help you, and
instead directing your ire at whoever you're paying for licensing and
support.  THEY get paid enough to put up with the abuse.  We don't.

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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Allen E. Elwood
I'm pretty sure someone is having a rotten day (I had a *real* bad one last
Friday myself - open mouth, insert foot dept.)

Obviously Garry has never worked for a software house in a true dev account
doing alpha testing on code and O/S releases where just *everything* doesn't
work, and you end up spending a man year or two swatting half a thousand
bugsI've spent a couple of years in that special type of hell, and
whereas it's about as hard as playing DOOM3 in nightmare mode, you get a
great sense of accomplishment when the product is released.

I bet when all is said and done, a reason will be found for the 'error',
which btw, was not explained in detail enough for any of us to be of any
help with.  Some examples might shed some light so that one maybe someone in
the group could help instead of feeling insulted.

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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Key Ally
Garry,
  Venting is healthy, but we do try to keep a respectful tone here. Your point 
is good but the anger hides the message.

- Chuck "Not Retiring Anytime Soon" Barouch

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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread dave . meeks
"Tis better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all
doubt"

You will find that IBM DOES publish a Bug Report and Fixes for each release.
In fact, they can be retrieved on-line by anyone, by going to :

https://www-927.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support/u2techconnect/buildmatrix.a
sp

Now, as to our pending retirement and your distaste for such matters, one
must ask which is worse...

The facts that you believe many people here are seemingly wasting their time
on such an old and terrible product...

Or, that given you hate the product so much, that you are here at all...


Dave

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More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that remain
unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that was a
month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins apart.

UV bites big.

IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES on each
release.

But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.
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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Hmmmthey do it for Unidata..although 'fixes' are usually touted as
enhancements.  :-)

This from a dated "new 5.2 features"


memresize Enhancement

Although the memresize utility allowed you to resize a dynamic
file, if the VOC pointer for the dynamic file was a synonym pointing to
another file system, memresize failed. An error message similar to the
following was displayed:

filename is a synonym, real name is /path. Synonym is not allowed
when dynamic file is involved in memresize. memresize
failed.

An enhancement has been made at this release to support memresizing dynamic
files defined as synonyms.

If the memresize utility encounters a 'file system full' situation, it
prompts the user to free disk space. After the user answers the prompt,
memresize continues resizing the file. If memresize is scripted to run
unattended, the script stops at that point and waits for the user to respond
to the prompt. The rest of the (unattended) script does not run. The
customer requested a way for memresize to be able to recover from any errors
without prompting, and then gracefully abandon the memresize of that
particular file - allowing their script to continue on with subsequent
memresize commands.


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More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that remain
unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that was a
month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins apart.

UV bites big.

IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES on each
release.

But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.


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>
> And, of course, given Glenn and I have full access to the source base, and
> can easily look it up that way, also helps :-)
>
> Dave
>
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> At 11:37 AM 11/19/2004, you wrote:
> >Glenn,
> >
> >Sounds like it was not able to get a PID - not sure why though.  Users
> are
> >able to log in and out without a problem, it's just not able to start any
> >phantoms.
> >
> >Where did you get the the error code definitions?
>
> Well, having worked on universe for oh... 15 years maybe (pre- IBM
> days)...
> I have this nifty "Vmark Technical Bulletin (ref# 74-0039 circa 1991)"
> that
> lists all the fault and error codes (well, those codes up to the
> mid-1990's
> when I stopped penciling them in).  I don't think this is in circulation
> anymore.
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RE: [U2] [UV] Garbage RUNTIME Initialization

2004-11-19 Thread GarryS
More and more it seems that there are a numerous 'glitches' that remain
unexplainable. I just had a user show me 2 screen shots of data that was a
month old, UV BASIC IF statement reported 2 different values 2 mins apart.

UV bites big.

IF IBM had any wherewithal they would publish a BUG REPORT and FIXES on each
release.

But gee whiz all you "UV kiddies" that would be like a real software
development group not people waiting for their retirement to kick in.


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:36 AM
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> Subject:  RE: [U2] [UV] Initialization Error
> 
> And, of course, given Glenn and I have full access to the source base, and
> can easily look it up that way, also helps :-)
> 
> Dave
> 
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> From: Glenn Herbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:21 PM
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> 
> At 11:37 AM 11/19/2004, you wrote:
> >Glenn,
> >
> >Sounds like it was not able to get a PID - not sure why though.  Users
> are
> >able to log in and out without a problem, it's just not able to start any
> >phantoms.
> >
> >Where did you get the the error code definitions?
> 
> Well, having worked on universe for oh... 15 years maybe (pre- IBM
> days)... 
> I have this nifty "Vmark Technical Bulletin (ref# 74-0039 circa 1991)"
> that 
> lists all the fault and error codes (well, those codes up to the
> mid-1990's 
> when I stopped penciling them in).  I don't think this is in circulation 
> anymore. 
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