Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
For some of my clients with huge amounts of direrct mailing, we maintain a table of exceptions to the MCT problem. All of the 50 states (add AU and NZ if you wish), the III's, the MD etc. If, after sending the string thru MCT, any 'words' (punctuation regarded) that are in this file (capitalized) then the 001 of that file is the replacement word. One music client has LeAnn Rimes in their database and uses the same concept. Thus LeaNn turns into LEANN and 001 is LeAnn. My 1 cEnt. Mark Johnson - Original Message - From: Laura Hirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:15 AM Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
I wonder if IBM ever got the request? Anyone know if an eCase exists? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart Leicester Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:28 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only SEARCH was designed to be fast and, at the time, it was much faster to scan for the first character of the searched-for string and, if you found it, execute a string compare instruction. It was also a much simpler algorithm. I later wrote a case-insensitive version but it either never made it into the released code or just never got documented. I think it's funny that, even though an obvious enhancement, none of the coders who re-implemented the original Reality function added a case-insensitive option. Stewart --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
David, Ask Better Better ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). They can follow up if there isn't an eCase. - Chuck David Wolverton wrote: I wonder if IBM ever got the request? Anyone know if an eCase exists? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stewart Leicester Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:28 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only SEARCH was designed to be fast and, at the time, it was much faster to scan for the first character of the searched-for string and, if you found it, execute a string compare instruction. It was also a much simpler algorithm. I later wrote a case-insensitive version but it either never made it into the released code or just never got documented. I think it's funny that, even though an obvious enhancement, none of the coders who re-implemented the original Reality function added a case-insensitive option. Stewart --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! The early days computers themselves didn't handle lowercase as they had 6bit characters allowing for a 64 character alphabet only. I've only used two such machines the IBM 7044 and CDC 6600 but before the IBM360 arrived in the mid 60's it was the general rule for mainframes to have 6bit chars. ( There were exceptions. IIRC british Orion and swedish Facit and Saab had 8bit bytes, and the minis. ) -- mats --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
Isn't that really more of a data issue though, rather than a programming issue? I absolutely believe that data should be stored in U/L case, but that doesn't affect the programming at all. For searching on this data, we just use dictionaries that put it in all upper case - very easy to search on. -Dianne Quoting Laura Hirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
Different subject all together. I don't think anyone would disagree that there is a need to store (some) data in upper/lower case. The ongoing discussion has been about program source code, the 'consumer' of which is the machine itself who really doesn't give a hoot one way or another. Oh, and just because its Friday and therefore I'm in a particularly jovial mood has anyone anyone considered during this crusade that no matter how you write your source code it compiles to psudocode that is ALL UPPER CASE!!! :) Laura Hirsh wrote: I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
Thanks Diane. It is a data issue... but also a programming challenge as well. It sounds like your environment has had standards in place that make it easy to live in the Upper/lower case world, but this isn't the case with many applications, nor with a lot of legacy software and/or data. And it's really a challenge to implement this type of standard mid-stream. As for the searching I was talking about, it was using the verb SEARCH - where you search across an entire file - not just attributes - so, although the dictionaries are great for one field searching - that's a different animal. On the same note, anyone gotten yelled at from a blackberry lately? On these hand-held units, (phones, etc), living in the upper/lower case world is, well, not really practical. And I get emails - in all upper case - from these devices all the time. But, boy, the possibilities of being able to take these devices into use as remote data entry devices are really intriguing - aren't they? Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 9:31 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only Isn't that really more of a data issue though, rather than a programming issue? I absolutely believe that data should be stored in U/L case, but that doesn't affect the programming at all. For searching on this data, we just use dictionaries that put it in all upper case - very easy to search on. -Dianne Quoting Laura Hirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
Diane, Dictionaries to change case are great if you are searching on a specific field. I think Laura's issue relates to searching the entire text of a record. - Chuck Putting Words In Laura's Mouth Even Though She Can Speak For Herself Since 2004 Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't that really more of a data issue though, rather than a programming issue? I absolutely believe that data should be stored in U/L case, but that doesn't affect the programming at all. For searching on this data, we just use dictionaries that put it in all upper case - very easy to search on. -Dianne Quoting Laura Hirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ -- Charles Barouch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) www.KeyAlly.com (718) 762-3884 x 1 P. O. Box 540957, Queens, NY 11354 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Upper Case Only
I missed the start of this thread so appologies if this has been said before UV 10.2 introduces a CASE command to turn on / off case sensitivity. Unfortunately, as far as I can see, they don't appear to have documented it (along with quite a lot of other new stuff). Having tried it earlier this week, I am not all that impressed since it isn't really making the system case insensitive at all but simple translates the command into upper case, making an assumption that dictionary and VOC items are in uppercase. Try a simple test using the sample file (lower case name) in the UV account... CASE OFF LIST sample It moans that there is no such file because it has translated the file name to upper case and found the SAMPLE keyword instead of the file. My own thoughts are that UV should try looking up exactly what you typed and, if it cannot find it, try again in upper case. Fully case insensitive record ids would not be difficult to implement but UV doesn't seem to offer this. Martin Phillips, Ladybridge Systems Ltd --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
SEARCH was designed to be fast and, at the time, it was much faster to scan for the first character of the searched-for string and, if you found it, execute a string compare instruction. It was also a much simpler algorithm. I later wrote a case-insensitive version but it either never made it into the released code or just never got documented. I think it's funny that, even though an obvious enhancement, none of the coders who re-implemented the original Reality function added a case-insensitive option. Stewart -Original Message- From: Laura Hirsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 09:15:20 -0400 SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. Laura -- Stewart Leicester | JenSoft Technologies, LLC Per Ardua Ad Astra | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
I have to agree with this. One of the things that Raining Data have done right (IMHO) is to provide case insensitivity, right down to the file level ... if you want SMITH = smith you can, if SMITH # smith you can set a file up for that as well Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage Better by Design! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura Hirsh Sent: Saturday, 17 March 2007 12:15 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mats Carlid Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:23 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only One reason for why the upper case only thing started that has been mentioned in this thread is that some early terminals didn't have lower case. This is indeed true but it used to be much worse than that ! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
Jeff: This thread is about __MORE__ than just the data! Kevin eloquently pointed out that some of the old ways in the U2 space need to be abandoned for more modern thinking. A certain perspective has survived here for years and this has spilled over into a number of areas where the U2 products have lagged behind in development. This seems to be changing, both with IBM's commitment and with this space's more recent thinking. The current state of affairs in U2 is case-sensitivity. This construct manifests itself negatively in myriad ways; data storage, command execution, indexing, searching, code production, etc, etc, etc. The current work-arounds only address one aspect or another of the problem; e.g. with an environment setting one can compile BASIC code in a case-insensitive mode (great - . What about the other negative aspects of case-sensitivity? There might be another work-around but the solution has not been engineered, and needs to be. Some may want to code in upper-case only. As far as I can see there's nothing wrong with this. But be reasonable; don't __FORCE__ me to do the same !! Most of this thread has addressed the inconvenience of forced-casing or the it shouldn't bother anyone, get used to it perspective. MV was designed to be a dynamic product; not constrained by the arbitrary constraints of other dbms products; which offers tremendous flexibility. But it's hard to describe the difficulties involved in manipulating strings at the application level for simple string searches. These difficulties become larger and larger with each technology one interfaces with (like the web). The solution is simple...give both U2 products the ability, at least to start with, to install as a case-insensitive product; granularity can be added. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Schasny Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:25 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Upper Case Only Different subject all together. I don't think anyone would disagree that there is a need to store (some) data in upper/lower case. The ongoing discussion has been about program source code, the 'consumer' of which is the machine itself who really doesn't give a hoot one way or another. Oh, and just because its Friday and therefore I'm in a particularly jovial mood has anyone anyone considered during this crusade that no matter how you write your source code it compiles to psudocode that is ALL UPPER CASE!!! :) Laura Hirsh wrote: I think that the upper/lower case issue -- albeit not a show stopper for anyone - is much worse than that. Besides the internal back-n-forth about programming in basic, and what case should be current, I think that a bigger issue revolves around data presentation and converting to a modern display and modern usage. For example, reports, mailing labels, Dear John letters... I mean, as a programmer, I can use MCU - that works great, MCL - not as useful, but, still works as documented. MCT? It's embarrassing. Dr. Mark Jones, MD is almost impossible to return. Mark Jones III - allows me to send a state of the art letter addressed to Mark Jones Iii. SEARCH is another of my pet peeves. It should be *smart enough* to figure out, or at least provide an option to be case insensitive. Maybe it does, and I'm not aware. But it just always seemed crazy. So, I search - string? MARK JONES then Mark Jones then Mark jones then mark jones. BTREES? Although some may disagree, Mark Jones and MARK JONES are the same thing - at least in our business environment. I think that if we want to work in a world that doesn't shout at us all the time, then we need to look beyond how to write a basic program That's my $.02 (hey, what happened to the cent character... it used to be there... I know it was... oh, maybe that was on the typewriters that didn't allow lower case) Laura --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re:[U2] Upper Case Only
Hi, the Pick environment will not recognize non-ECL-type P statements, in your case *with @id like XREF...*, when you type the statement in lower case, because in the Pick environment the proper syntax would be IIRC *with @id = XREF:]* I think it works the other way round too. Mecki Ron Hutchings schrieb: Within the pick environment there is situation where you are forced to use upper case: List Voc with @id like XREF... and with Type = F The interpreter won't recognize most of this statement. _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
Ron: In PICK mode there is no LIKE keyword. Comparisons use the normal =, #, etc operators. So your example should be: LIST VOC WITH @ID = XREF] AND WITH TYPE = F ...or LIST VOC = XREF] WITH TYPE = F (notice the upper-casing) :-) Hope this helps. Bill Ron Hutchings wrote... Within the pick environment there is situation where you are forced to use upper case: List Voc with @id like XREF... and with Type = F The interpreter won't recognize most of this statement. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
I was using pick as a generic term. I am currently working on an AIX platform running Universe with the pick flavor and the LIKE keyword works. My point was that it has to be in upper case unless you have really mucked up the VOC with extaneous synonyms. __ From: Bill H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:02:10 -0700 Ron: In PICK mode there is no LIKE keyword. Comparisons use the normal =, #, etc operators. So your example should be: LIST VOC WITH @ID = XREF] AND WITH TYPE = F ...or LIST VOC = XREF] WITH TYPE = F (notice the upper-casing) :-) Hope this helps. Bill Ron Hutchings wrote... Within the pick environment there is situation where you are forced to use upper case: List Voc with @id like XREF... and with Type = F The interpreter won't recognize most of this statement. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Upper Case Only
Ron: Sorry for the misstatement...I'm running UniData. UniData is occasionally much less forgiving than UV (sometimes it seems the engineers enjoyed tripping up PICK people). :-o Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Hutchings Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only I was using pick as a generic term. I am currently working on an AIX platform running Universe with the pick flavor and the LIKE keyword works. My point was that it has to be in upper case unless you have really mucked up the VOC with extaneous synonyms. __ From: Bill H [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Upper Case Only Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:02:10 -0700 Ron: In PICK mode there is no LIKE keyword. Comparisons use the normal =, #, etc operators. So your example should be: LIST VOC WITH @ID = XREF] AND WITH TYPE = F ...or LIST VOC = XREF] WITH TYPE = F (notice the upper-casing) :-) Hope this helps. Bill Ron Hutchings wrote... Within the pick environment there is situation where you are forced to use upper case: List Voc with @id like XREF... and with Type = F The interpreter won't recognize most of this statement. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ _ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
