RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
Yes obviously it is better to have a virus scanner if you can. But I was trying to point out why they can have such a massive effect on U2 databases and why IBM don't recommend them for U2 databases. Ideally the best way is to design your network and systems so that a virus can't reach your back end systems anyway. This is the approach that we have taken and it is very successful. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glen B Sent: 26 August 2004 17:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? I'd prefer the entire file to be scanned every time. You never know if a virus is slowly plugging its bits into a file. A diff check on a file will not detect a known virus signature. The signature would be spread all over the file. Look at the B1 virus. It destroys FAT partitions by taking its time and deleting a link here and there. Nothing major to start with, until your files start to blow up one by one. :P A well programmed scanner with heuristic analysis can blaze through a 200MB file. "Most virus scanners" is a harsh term, considering I've seen 100-200%+ performance difference in scanning with 3 or 4 different scanners checking the same files. Every virus scanner has a focal point. Some focus on run-time checking, while another may focus on batch scanning or protocol sniffing. I've yet to find one that does it all extremely well and doesn't interfere with performance on a regular basis. F-PROT is about the best, overall, for all platforms. AVG is a great well-rounded tool for Windows. Panda isn't bad, but I still feel it's over marketed for what's really there. I remember them badgering me @ Comdex `99, every time I walked by their booth. Maybe I'm biased now? Sophos is OK, but it's popular enough to be a direct virus target. Does Sophos have integrity measures, to assure its own files can't be changed? I don't know how many times I've had to re-install Norton AV due to direct infection. I'm sure there are some other scanners that I haven't road-tested. For the most part, I'm happy with AVG on Windows and don't wanna look any further at the moment. If I was running X-windows, I'd have F-PROT running. After all, it was one of the first scanners and they have it down to a science now. I had the free version running on DOS 6.22 for my BBS back in the early 90's. Scary eh? Glen http://picksource.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Matthews > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on > Windows? > > > << so it only scans files that have changed.>> > > That's the problem with most virus scanners. Consider a 200mb file with > a million records in it. What do you think the virus scanner is going to > do each time a record (even one character) is changed in that file? > > Some of them must be intelligent enough to only access the parts of the > file that have changed, such as the higher level backup programs do now. > But I bet the majority will just see the file as changed and scan the > whole thing. > > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 August 2004 13:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on > Windows? > > > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:36 -0700 > > From: David Scoggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ... > > We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe > > servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any > > recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV > > conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, > > AVG, F-Prot, etc? > > Consider looking at Sophos (http://www.sophos.com). You can download an > evaluation version from their website, although you do have to register > to > get it. > > I don't use U2 on Windows, but I know that Sophos takes a very > non-intrusive approach and does not affect system performance as much as > Norton. The "on access" scanner keeps track of clean files, so it only > scans files that have changed. > > --Tom Pellitieri > Century Equipment > Toledo, Ohio > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > The information contained in this email is strictly confidential > and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise > indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not > read,
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
I'd prefer the entire file to be scanned every time. You never know if a virus is slowly plugging its bits into a file. A diff check on a file will not detect a known virus signature. The signature would be spread all over the file. Look at the B1 virus. It destroys FAT partitions by taking its time and deleting a link here and there. Nothing major to start with, until your files start to blow up one by one. :P A well programmed scanner with heuristic analysis can blaze through a 200MB file. "Most virus scanners" is a harsh term, considering I've seen 100-200%+ performance difference in scanning with 3 or 4 different scanners checking the same files. Every virus scanner has a focal point. Some focus on run-time checking, while another may focus on batch scanning or protocol sniffing. I've yet to find one that does it all extremely well and doesn't interfere with performance on a regular basis. F-PROT is about the best, overall, for all platforms. AVG is a great well-rounded tool for Windows. Panda isn't bad, but I still feel it's over marketed for what's really there. I remember them badgering me @ Comdex `99, every time I walked by their booth. Maybe I'm biased now? Sophos is OK, but it's popular enough to be a direct virus target. Does Sophos have integrity measures, to assure its own files can't be changed? I don't know how many times I've had to re-install Norton AV due to direct infection. I'm sure there are some other scanners that I haven't road-tested. For the most part, I'm happy with AVG on Windows and don't wanna look any further at the moment. If I was running X-windows, I'd have F-PROT running. After all, it was one of the first scanners and they have it down to a science now. I had the free version running on DOS 6.22 for my BBS back in the early 90's. Scary eh? Glen http://picksource.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Matthews > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on > Windows? > > > << so it only scans files that have changed.>> > > That's the problem with most virus scanners. Consider a 200mb file with > a million records in it. What do you think the virus scanner is going to > do each time a record (even one character) is changed in that file? > > Some of them must be intelligent enough to only access the parts of the > file that have changed, such as the higher level backup programs do now. > But I bet the majority will just see the file as changed and scan the > whole thing. > > > -----Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 26 August 2004 13:58 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on > Windows? > > > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:36 -0700 > > From: David Scoggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ... > > We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe > > servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any > > recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV > > conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, > > AVG, F-Prot, etc? > > Consider looking at Sophos (http://www.sophos.com). You can download an > evaluation version from their website, although you do have to register > to > get it. > > I don't use U2 on Windows, but I know that Sophos takes a very > non-intrusive approach and does not affect system performance as much as > Norton. The "on access" scanner keeps track of clean files, so it only > scans files that have changed. > > --Tom Pellitieri > Century Equipment > Toledo, Ohio > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ > > > The information contained in this email is strictly confidential > and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise > indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not > read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any > attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this > email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the > email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do > not relate to the official business of this company shall be > understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets > Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the > Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian > Securities and Investments Commission. > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
<< so it only scans files that have changed.>> That's the problem with most virus scanners. Consider a 200mb file with a million records in it. What do you think the virus scanner is going to do each time a record (even one character) is changed in that file? Some of them must be intelligent enough to only access the parts of the file that have changed, such as the higher level backup programs do now. But I bet the majority will just see the file as changed and scan the whole thing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 August 2004 13:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:36 -0700 > From: David Scoggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe > servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any > recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV > conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, > AVG, F-Prot, etc? Consider looking at Sophos (http://www.sophos.com). You can download an evaluation version from their website, although you do have to register to get it. I don't use U2 on Windows, but I know that Sophos takes a very non-intrusive approach and does not affect system performance as much as Norton. The "on access" scanner keeps track of clean files, so it only scans files that have changed. --Tom Pellitieri Century Equipment Toledo, Ohio --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:51:36 -0700 > From: David Scoggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe > servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any > recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV > conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, > AVG, F-Prot, etc? Consider looking at Sophos (http://www.sophos.com). You can download an evaluation version from their website, although you do have to register to get it. I don't use U2 on Windows, but I know that Sophos takes a very non-intrusive approach and does not affect system performance as much as Norton. The "on access" scanner keeps track of clean files, so it only scans files that have changed. --Tom Pellitieri Century Equipment Toledo, Ohio --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
We use stinger on our UV servers and workstations. Do a Google search and you should be able to find everything you need. It's a free download, too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Scoggins Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:52 AM To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
We use McAfee Virusscan Enterprise 7.1 on our UV server (NT4, UV 10) but we exclude the drives where Universe is installed and the database is located from the on-access scanning. We have not had any problems with this setup. HTH, Steve Moore Amerex Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David Scoggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:52 AM To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ This message has been scanned for viruses by Webshield E500, Groupshield for Exchange, and McAfee Virus Enterprise This message has been scanned for viruses by Webshield E500, Groupshield for Exchange, and McAfee Virus Enterprise --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
Check out AVG. It's fairly inexpensive and it runs well on Win2K and up. Norton hinders more than it helps. I remove all copies of the NAV stuff from OEM PCs. I've never had anything but problems from it. Grisoft uses Inktomi for their updates, so upgrades and updates are typically fast. Plus, it's not a famous virus scanner, so trojans and bugs won't look for scanner files to mask. I dunno how many times NAV has gotten infected before it even knew there was a virus! http://www.grisoft.com Glen http://picksource.com > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Scoggins > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 12:52 PM > To: U2 Users (E-mail) > Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? > > > Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, > W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly > Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't > installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee > and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it > was brought > in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it > managed to get > into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn > door after the horse has escaped at this point. > > We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway > in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations > regarding how > to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better > alternative - e.g. > Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? > > David Scoggins > IT Analyst > CornerStone Propane > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
Based on past IBM recommendations as well as previous threads on this list, we recommend to our clients that they not install AV on their universe servers, at least not in real-time mode. They need to find other ways to protect that server. In particular, when clients ignore our advice and run the AV in real-time on the server, we have found that McAfee and Universe don't seem to play nice - data integrity problems, major performance hit, etc. Other AV products seem to be ok in terms of data integrity but also cause major performance hit. Gary Eppel Cerner Corp. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Scoggins Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:52 AM To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This message and any included attachments are from Cerner Corporation and are intended only for the addressee. The information contained in this message is confidential and may constitute inside or non-public information under international, federal, or state securities laws. Unauthorized forwarding, printing, copying, distribution, or use of such information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, please promptly delete this message and notify the sender of the delivery error by e-mail or you may call Cerner's corporate offices in Kansas City, Missouri, U.S.A at (+1) (816)221-1024. -- --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
Our box is 8 x 2.7ghz Xeons with 8gb of memory and a 2gb cache Raid 0+1 array. Running Norton realtime protect on that kills it stone dead with 400 user sessions. When we've moved to Solaris it will make life so much simpler! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 August 2004 19:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? We use Symantec running real-time protection, but this is on a box with no more than 50 simultaneous users, 4x900 MHz Xeon processors and 2GB of memory. I've been told that it hampers system performance, but we'd rather spend the money on additional memory and faster processors than risk losing data because of a virus on the network. The only other AV software I've run on the server was F-Prot. I can't speak to whether it'll cause problems with UV though. -Original Message- From: David Scoggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:52 AM To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
We use Symantec running real-time protection, but this is on a box with no more than 50 simultaneous users, 4x900 MHz Xeon processors and 2GB of memory. I've been told that it hampers system performance, but we'd rather spend the money on additional memory and faster processors than risk losing data because of a virus on the network. The only other AV software I've run on the server was F-Prot. I can't speak to whether it'll cause problems with UV though. -Original Message- From: David Scoggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 11:52 AM To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows?
We use Norton. Don't enable the realtime protection though as it cripples the performance of the system. We set ours to do daily scans at reasonably quiet times. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of David Scoggins Sent: Wed 25/08/2004 17:51 To: U2 Users (E-mail) Subject: [U2] [UV] Anti-virus recommendations for Universe on Windows? Unfortunately, we have just discovered that one of our UV servers (UV 10, W2K) has become infected with the Blaster worm. We have McAfee (formerly Network Associates) AV installed on all of our client PCs, but we haven't installed it on any of the UV servers because of conflicts between McAfee and Universe reported on this list and elsewhere. We suspect it was brought in on a visitors laptop, and we're trying to determine how it managed to get into a privileged part of the network, but that's really closing the barn door after the horse has escaped at this point. We now are considering installing McAfee AV on the Universe servers anyway in light of this event. Does anyone have any recommendations regarding how to eliminate the McAfee/UV conflict, or is there a better alternative - e.g. Symantec/Norton, AVG, F-Prot, etc? David Scoggins IT Analyst CornerStone Propane mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
