RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

2008-02-29 Thread Dennis Bartlett
Brian

What you're saying then is that syntax highlighting doesn't automatically
work after a virgin install? The user needs to set each of the paths to
pre-existing directories that the install created?

Perhaps a good idea would be to make the install update those paths since
(as it is creating the Program Files subfolder BLC\mvDeveloper\etc) it
already know the paths to the required files. 

dennis

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Hi Dennis

1. Go into tools|settings and check the paths are correctly pointing to the
syntax files. 

2. In the same place, check that you have set a default language: that will
match the platform you use most commonly. In my case, UniVerse BASIC.

3. mvDeveloper will then use that language definition throughout unless you
override it for a specific editor window: so you could have Unidata basic in
one tab, UniVerse PROC in another etc. The language definition determines
the syntax highlighting, build commands, and some navigation stuff like
jumping to labels, loading include files and commenting in/out code.

Regards

Brian 

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 Hi Brian
 
 How does one get syntax highlighting with the new mvDeveloper?
 
 
 
 slightly perplexed...
 
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 Okay, so while we're on the subject, I've just posted an 
 update to my free mvDeveloper windows based editor. This can 
 call handler subroutines on save, build etc to keep a version track.
 
 You can download this from www.brianleach.co.uk
 
 Regard All
 
 Brian
  
 
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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

2008-02-29 Thread Brian Leach
Dennis

No - it does set the paths on install (the instructions were just a 
double-check), but you need to choose which language to use as your default, 
rather than having to specify for each separate item. Plus you might want to 
set paths to modified versions if you use particular conventions, or don't use 
specific commands. 

For example, I develop code for UniVerse, UniData, QM, jBASE and D3 all on the 
same UniVerse system, plus I have precompilers and scripting languages. Or you 
might be developing cross platform and just want the 'generic' Basic, rather 
than e.g. the UniVerse specific one.

So that's the bit you need to set.

Regards

Brian


Brian

What you're saying then is that syntax highlighting doesn't automatically
work after a virgin install? The user needs to set each of the paths to
pre-existing directories that the install created?

Perhaps a good idea would be to make the install update those paths since
(as it is creating the Program Files subfolder BLC\mvDeveloper\etc) it
already know the paths to the required files. 

dennis

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Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

Hi Dennis

1. Go into tools|settings and check the paths are correctly pointing to the
syntax files. 

2. In the same place, check that you have set a default language: that will
match the platform you use most commonly. In my case, UniVerse BASIC.

3. mvDeveloper will then use that language definition throughout unless you
override it for a specific editor window: so you could have Unidata basic in
one tab, UniVerse PROC in another etc. The language definition determines
the syntax highlighting, build commands, and some navigation stuff like
jumping to labels, loading include files and commenting in/out code.

Regards

Brian 

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 Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]
 
 Hi Brian
 
 How does one get syntax highlighting with the new mvDeveloper?
 
 
 
 slightly perplexed...
 
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 Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]
 
 Okay, so while we're on the subject, I've just posted an 
 update to my free mvDeveloper windows based editor. This can 
 call handler subroutines on save, build etc to keep a version track.
 
 You can download this from www.brianleach.co.uk
 
 Regard All
 
 Brian
  
 
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  Subject: Re: [U2] AE editor replacement
  
  I wish everyone who had a U2 product would put an ad here.
  
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  (Besides reviewing the 175,000 URLs returned with googling IBM 
  UniVerse.)
  
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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

2008-02-28 Thread Brian Leach
Okay, so while we're on the subject, I've just posted an update to my free
mvDeveloper windows based editor. This can call handler subroutines on save,
build etc to keep a version track.

You can download this from www.brianleach.co.uk

Regard All

Brian
 

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 Subject: Re: [U2] AE editor replacement
 
 I wish everyone who had a U2 product would put an ad here.
 
 How else is anybody to know what is available?
 
 (Besides reviewing the 175,000 URLs returned with googling 
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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

2008-02-28 Thread Dennis Bartlett
Hi Brian

How does one get syntax highlighting with the new mvDeveloper?



slightly perplexed...

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Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

Okay, so while we're on the subject, I've just posted an update to my free
mvDeveloper windows based editor. This can call handler subroutines on save,
build etc to keep a version track.

You can download this from www.brianleach.co.uk

Regard All

Brian
 

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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]

2008-02-28 Thread Brian Leach
Hi Dennis

1. Go into tools|settings and check the paths are correctly pointing to the
syntax files. 

2. In the same place, check that you have set a default language: that will
match the platform you use most commonly. In my case, UniVerse BASIC.

3. mvDeveloper will then use that language definition throughout unless you
override it for a specific editor window: so you could have Unidata basic in
one tab, UniVerse PROC in another etc. The language definition determines
the syntax highlighting, build commands, and some navigation stuff like
jumping to labels, loading include files and commenting in/out code.

Regards

Brian 

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 Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]
 
 Hi Brian
 
 How does one get syntax highlighting with the new mvDeveloper?
 
 
 
 slightly perplexed...
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach
 Sent: 28 February 2008 11:12 AM
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Subject: RE: [U2] AE editor replacement [AD]
 
 Okay, so while we're on the subject, I've just posted an 
 update to my free mvDeveloper windows based editor. This can 
 call handler subroutines on save, build etc to keep a version track.
 
 You can download this from www.brianleach.co.uk
 
 Regard All
 
 Brian
  
 
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  Subject: Re: [U2] AE editor replacement
  
  I wish everyone who had a U2 product would put an ad here.
  
  How else is anybody to know what is available?
  
  (Besides reviewing the 175,000 URLs returned with googling IBM 
  UniVerse.)
  
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Re: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Martin Phillips

Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes
to the database done through AE?


Our SED full screen editor for U2 has this capability. Please email me off 
list for more information as this is getting close to an advert!



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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Walker
You can actually log changes to the database with AE, as well as just about
anything else you can think of that you can write in a BASIC program. Look
into PREPROG_AE and POSTPROG_AE. These are subroutines that, if cataloged,
run everytime the editor is run. We used them to disable saves in the
production unless they've been specifically approved by an administrator,
and to log ALL datachanges to the production server. (SOX, ya know.)

--
Dave

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All,

Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes to
the database done through AE?

Thanks,

Andy



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Re: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Butera
quote who='Andy Squires' date='Wednesday 27 February 2008'
 All,

 Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes
 to the database done through AE?

I use database triggers for these things because it doesn't care how the 
record got updated or deleted - it just runs the trigger when asked to do so.
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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Walker
Took quite a while for me to find where I got the info on
PREPROG/POSTPROG_AE, but my fading middle-aged memory finally kicked in. On
our dev box, /usr/ud/sys/AE_SECURITY contains several text files explaining
how to implement security measures. The path may be different depending on
your install. Doesn't look like they've changed since 1998/AE v. 3.2. But
they do still seem to work. There are also examples of each subroutine.

HTH,
--
Dave

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All,

Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes to
the database done through AE?

Thanks,

Andy



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Re: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Louie Bergsagel
I wish everyone who had a U2 product would put an ad here.

How else is anybody to know what is available?

(Besides reviewing the 175,000 URLs returned with googling IBM UniVerse.)

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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread daverch
Our Eclipse based editor called XLr8 works for Unidata and Universe and logs
the changes.  

[AD] It is available for free at www.u2logic.com.  You have to download the
IDE from Eclipse.org and have java virtual machine running on your machine
that you can download from sun.com.  We support the following OS for the
client: Windows, Linux, Mac's, and others.  We have had over 1200 downloads
of the XLr8Editor and Tools. [/AD]

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Subject: [U2] AE editor replacement

All,

Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes to
the database done through AE?

Thanks,

Andy



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Re: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Jeffrey Butera
 Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes
 to the database done through AE?

To be clear - I still maintain triggers are superior for this type of work as 
any security you slap on AE doesn't help you with things like:

:DELETE PERSON 1234567

or

:MODIFY PERSON FIRST.NAME = Idiot WITH @ID = 1234567


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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Wally Terhune
Dave Walker wrote:
You can actually log changes to the database with AE, as well as just about
anything else you can think of that you can write in a BASIC program. Look
into PREPROG_AE and POSTPROG_AE. These are subroutines that, if cataloged,
run everytime the editor is run. We used them to disable saves in the
production unless they've been specifically approved by an administrator,
and to log ALL datachanges to the production server. (SOX, ya know.)

Look in $UDTHOME/sys/AE_SECURITY directory for more information:
# ls
@README_SECURITY  INTRO2PREPROG1_AE
ALLOW I_AE_SECURITY PREPROG2_AE
INTRO POSTPROG1_AE  UPDATE_3.2
   
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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Dennis Bartlett
Step 1:   Rename voc entry for AE to AE.VERB
Step 2:   Write a prog to
- read source from file, store in BEFORE
- execute AE.VERB
- read source from file, store in AFTER
- compare line by line BEFORE vs AFTER
- record changes in an AUDIT file
Step 3:   Catalog your proggie as AE

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All,

Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes to
the database done through AE?

Thanks,

Andy



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RE: [U2] AE editor replacement

2008-02-27 Thread Dennis Bartlett
I didn't know triggers worked on Type 1 files... isn't that the place where
one one want most auditing of changes made???

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 Is there such an animal as an AE editor replacement which can log changes
 to the database done through AE?

To be clear - I still maintain triggers are superior for this type of work
as 
any security you slap on AE doesn't help you with things like:

:DELETE PERSON 1234567

or

:MODIFY PERSON FIRST.NAME = Idiot WITH @ID = 1234567


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