Re: [U2] Alas .NET
From a message from Leroy Dreyfuss dated 08-30-2004 At our conference, you will receive plenty of information on the subject. You will get plenty of information, but you must order new copies of UniData 6.1 or Universe 10.1 to receive it. It is not a separate offering any more than the original UniObjects is. In fact, both are included on the client CD. UO.NET is bundled with the databases. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:36 AM Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- [ E-mail scanned Virus Free by NAI - McAfee anti-virus system ] --- [ E-mail scanned Virus Free by NAI - McAfee anti-virus system ] --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
djordan wrote: If Uniobjects .Net is a .Net assembley, then it should run anywhere that the .Net frame work runs as well as probably on the Linux version as well. We've had some discussions in comp.databases.pick about .NET-enabled MV tools running over Mono. I believe (though someone with more insight might correct me) that the current lot of components (UO.NET, PDP.NET, etc) will not run over Mono in Linux or in Windows unless the authors take the time to assemble the code over Mono (doesn't matter which platform). I'm a firm believer that Mono provides opportunities for all developers, MV and otherwise, that have been unreachable until now. I strongly encourage IBM and Raining Data to assemble and support their components over Mono, so that we can create rich thick and thin clients and other interfaces over *nix as easily as over Windows. This will open many sales opportunities that we simply do not have at the moment. That said, I don't know, but if UOJ clients can be deployed over *nix, or if *nix-based Java components (clients and middle tiers) can be implemented with WebSphere/RedBack - so the issue might be that people just aren't taking advantage of existing tools, and not that the tools aren't available. If UOJ/WebSphere/RedBack is the answer, then maybe the problem is just economics and too much in the middle. Any comments on that? Do I need to read the friendly manuals? Tony, Nebula RD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Editor, C#Builder Kick Start, SAMS Publishing Technical Editor, several .NET articles for magazines and websites Author, Web Services and .NET article series, Spectrum Magazine Providing high-end .NET-related services --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Alas .NET
huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
Unless you want to run ASP .NET of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
Maybe someday we will want to do ASP .NET... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Adrian Matthews Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET Unless you want to run ASP .NET of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
Beware the UniObjects.Net manual! You'll also find references and examples for UniString objects that don't exist in the product. Don Kibbey Financial Systems Manager Finnegan, Henderson, Farabow, Garrett Dunner LLP --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Alas .NET
reference : http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=262D25E3-F589-4842-8157-034D1E7CF3A3displaylang=en perhaps you are referring to VS.NET ? - Original Message - From: gerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:39 am Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Alas .NET
this sounds like a confusion between development and client installations. I have to assume that the developers guide is referring to software requirements on development machines - which i suppose is IBM's client (?) and their reply seems to support this. there should be no uniobjects client requirements for anything other than the .Net Framework, if IBM has indeed made .Net development tools ( a very vague statement ) a prerequisute for uniobjects on client machines then that is purely an IBM/uniobjects.net issue, totally unrelated to microsoft .net - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 11:09 am Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET I found it in UniObjects for .NET Developer's Guide, v6.1, June 2004, Chapter 4, page 4-3, Client Software Components. Software Reqt OS Win 2000 SP2 or Win XP Professional Cutting and pasting an eMail from Leroy Dreyfuss... Bill, UniObjects for .Net will run on any system where the .Net Framework exists and .Net development tools will function. That is not up to U2; that is up to Microsoft. Regards, IBM U2 Marketing Team I hope that I am missing something. Clarification would be appreciated. --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of gerry Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotne t/html/framewkwinsupp.asp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 17:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET ASP.NET runs on the internet server and has no bearing on the client. - Original Message - From: Adrian Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:58 am Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET Unless you want to run ASP .NET of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
I finally upgraded to w2000 and the speed is much better, and I don't have stupid problems with VPN and I could go on and on about all the stuff that works better, but that would be boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 06:37 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Hopp, Raymond Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
Re: [U2] Alas .NET
right , exactly what i just said - ASP.NET runs on a server which is irrelevant as far as the client is concerned. ASP.NET clients don't require anything other than an internet browser. - Original Message - From: Adrian Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:43 pm Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dndotne t/html/framewkwinsupp.asp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 17:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET ASP.NET runs on the internet server and has no bearing on the client. - Original Message - From: Adrian Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:58 am Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET Unless you want to run ASP .NET of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerry Sent: 15 September 2004 15:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [U2] Alas .NET huh ? where did you get this nugget ? .NET will run on w98 just peachy. - Original Message - From: Brutzman, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Hopp, Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 09:36 am Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ The information contained in this email is strictly confidential and for the use of the addressee only, unless otherwise indicated. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose to others this message or any attachment. Please also notify the sender by replying to this email or by telephone +44 (0)20 7896 0011 and then delete the email and any copies of it. Opinions, conclusions (etc.) that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. IG Markets Limited and IG Index Plc are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority and, in Australia, by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission. --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
And take a long time. -Original Message- From: Allen E. Elwood (CA) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] Alas .NET I finally upgraded to w2000 and the speed is much better, and I don't have stupid problems with VPN and I could go on and on about all the stuff that works better, but that would be boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 06:37 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Hopp, Raymond Subject: [U2] Alas .NET How bitter that Microsoft requires Win2k or better on the client side. I was hoping that Win98 would live for a few more years. I wish that my facts were wrong... --Bill --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] Alas .NET
.Net is a frame work, similar to the UniVerse Virtial Machine for UniBasic. If I have a VB .Net application then I need the .Net Framework to run underneath it. If I am using ASP.Net then it is only required on the web server, not the web browser client. As far as I am aware the .Net framework is available for Win NT 4 and I think it is available for Windows 98, but Microsoft is aiming everybody to be running on the NT platform of some sort and no longer deal with the issues of the DOS related Win 95 Win 98. You can download the frameworks from the Microsoft site. If Uniobjects .Net is a .Net assembley, then it should run anywhere that the .Net frame work runs as well as probably on the Linux version as well. Regards David Jordan --- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
