Re: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread Don Kibbey
Yes, going from Irix (MIPS?) to Linux on X86 will most likely require
fnuxi to be run on everything after the transfer.  Since the fnuxi
process would run on the newer machine, it would probably still be
much faster to run an rsync, then find - fnuxi script.

Just be very carefull with rsync!  It's a sharp knife.  Flip around
the systems and you could step on the live account with test data 
Do some testing with a couple of small directories until your
comfortable with it.
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Re: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread Peter Ivanick
Replication was incredibly slow before version 10 and had a large impact
on file updates. 
That wouldn't be too bad for our case here when it's a one off, it'd 
*have* to be faster than plugging the backups over the small pipe we've 
got, but good to know.

We have replication running between Windows and Linux versions in test
without problems. Due to limited downtime windows we are planning to
switch systems over two weekends with replication running in between.
Many thanks for your input, I would love to hear how well that works for 
you when you go with it -- we're looking atour cutover being sometime in 
May so I have a goodly amount of time to experiment.

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Re: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread u2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Rsync, that's an interesting idea I hadn't thought of, thanks very much 
> for your input, I'll definitely be trying that out shortly.
> 
Just be careful! What hardware are your linux and irix systems running on? You 
may need to use fnuxi.

Using fnuxi has nothing to do with Windows/Unix and everything to do with byte 
order. It's just that most Unix runs on (sensible) little-endian boxes and 
Windows runs on big-endian Intel so everybody assumes its a Windows/Unix thing.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread Peter Ivanick
That's the way we're currently testing it, uvbackup & uvrestore, but it 
adds some additional delays in that the IRIX system is configured 
rather, um, funkily, and those bits need to be recreated after the 
system is in place on the new box. Also, unfortunately, we've got a good 
bit of data & programming (about 6 GB total although I assume quite a 
lot of it is cruft, but we're unlikely to do any massive cleanup before 
the transfer) and only a single 10mb NIC in the IRIX box, so I'm 
exploring options for anything to goose the process even a little.

Any particular reason you're leery of replicating, is it this particular 
suituation or replication in general?

Rsync, that's an interesting idea I hadn't thought of, thanks very much 
for your input, I'll definitely be trying that out shortly.

Don Kibbey wrote:
Upgrade via replication sounds like a receipe for lots of "wailing and
knashing of teeth".  Have a look at uvbackup and uvrestore.  Or read
up on rsync as a means to get the data from one machine to another. 
If it were me, I think I'd do a uvbackup to a network mounted
filesystem (samba or nfs) and then do a uvrestore from that disk to
the final location.

Doing a test conversion would allow you to get an idea of how long it
will take and should uncover any hidden gotchas in moving from Irix to
Linux.

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Sr. Programmer/Analyst
School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania
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RE: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian Matthews
Replication was incredibly slow before version 10 and had a large impact
on file updates. 

We have replication running between Windows and Linux versions in test
without problems. Due to limited downtime windows we are planning to
switch systems over two weekends with replication running in between.


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Subject: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

Hola -

We've got a 9.5 system running on Irix that we're going to be upgrading 
to 10.1.4 running on Linux on new hardware, and it strikes me that 
replication might be a good way to minimize system downtime while we do 
the upgrade.

Any idea whether there would be any additional hitches in doing 
replication across platforms & versions? We would of course have fnuxied

and otherwise modified the files prior to the replication being set to 
go. Any thoughts (or alternative strategies to minimize system downtime 
during an upgrade) would be greatly appreciated.

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Sr. Programmer/Analyst
School of Veterinary Medicine, University of Pennsylvania
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Re: [U2] Is replication across versions a possibility?

2005-03-04 Thread Don Kibbey
Upgrade via replication sounds like a receipe for lots of "wailing and
knashing of teeth".  Have a look at uvbackup and uvrestore.  Or read
up on rsync as a means to get the data from one machine to another. 
If it were me, I think I'd do a uvbackup to a network mounted
filesystem (samba or nfs) and then do a uvrestore from that disk to
the final location.

Doing a test conversion would allow you to get an idea of how long it
will take and should uncover any hidden gotchas in moving from Irix to
Linux.
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