{Spam?} UDT 6.0.5 and RH AS
Hi everybody! Has anybody installed udt 6.0.5 on RH AS. Any experiences with that, especially with UOJ ? I know it this platform is not in official list (only RH ES is) but maybe somebody has tried it. We had some problems with installing it but finally we succeeded. Currently we experience problems with UO Java - unirpcd is running but we can not connect to it, error 39207 arises. We have had such problem before on other platforms but then the problem was with LANG=C on both, server and client side. This time it did not help. Lembit Pirn 7+7 Software Tondi 1 Tallinn 11313 Estonia +372 65 66 232 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
These are scripts ending with .vbs, .js run with either (command line) cscript.exe or (gui) wscript.exe. On server 2003, i have found that only privileged users can run these. Used for automated administration of the server. 2000 may allow it, but i would hope not. These scripts give you a way to automate, access, and programatically control every aspect of your windows server including access to networking, modems and printers. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en- us/script56/html/wsproarguments.asp The best bet is to create a simple executable to connect the modem, use the new socket abilities of Universe 10.0 to setup a client system locally, and an always listening server at the remote location and just pipe the data over. Then the listening program writes the data to a file. kind of a hacked system but oh well. > What kind of scripts? Batch files? I have a number of processes which > write out and execute batch files and ordinary users can execute > them just fine. > > -Original Message- > From: Jeremy Adell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program > > you cannot run scripts if not logged in as administrator, but it > would be possible to run an .exe . not sure if you know how to > program c++ or vb. > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[OT] to Brian Re: C#Builder
Brian, I hope this responds to your points (Good chatting BTW, hope all is well): - Because the compiler is free doesn't mean the IDE must be too. We could say the MV database model and Pick/BASIC compiler are free, and we're just licensing user access to it through the various MV DBMS implementations. But we have to pay for "something". I see no problem with someone providing a for-fee IDE which makes my development easier, and I think Borland was wise to create a tiered pricing structure for increased functionality, starting with free software for limited use. - About "no commercial use" in the free version: If I'm making money by using someone else's software I see nothing wrong with compensating them for the opportunities they've provided me. That goes for VS.NET, C#Builder, or an MV DBMS. What we all object to is "unreasonably" and prohibitively high costs to developers, and up-front costs that could be unrecoverable if for some reason we aren't selling product. - About the quality of C#Builder. I've had my beefs with it too but it IS a good product and a viable alternative to VS.NET when people say "I don't want to have to pay Microsoft to code in .NET". See the following link for a side by side comparison: http://www.c-sharppro.com/features/2003/11/cs200311jm_f/cs200311jm_f.asp What that article points out is that C#Builder is about on-par with VS.NET for average development. However it stands out considerably for Enterprise-scale development of larger applications (which was probably not considered by your local press who hammered the product). Maybe this isn't where guys like us fit in, but Borland did address needs of a large audience that were not being satisfied with Microsoft offerings, and that seems to be consistent with the overall Borland strategy. While I spent several months intensively working with C#Builder last year, for my needs VS.NET is my preferred tool, though I do miss some very cool features of C#Builder. How does this apply to MV developers? In my mind tools are irrelevant. Pick one and go forward. I don't care if you're using VS.NET, C#Builder, or Notepad for your .NET development, but I think it's important to get started with .NET development with any tool at any level, to enhance your apps and keep you competitive with other "mainstream" offerings. My best, Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian Leach wrote: >But C#Builder is a borrowed technology and the cost seems way >high for what is essentially a wrapper around a compiler that >is otherwise available for free. The cost seems to be set to >reflect that of Visual Studio .Net, which offers far more in >terms of functionality than the Borland IDE: and it got >hammered by the computer press over here for exactly that reason. > >I'm worried that Borland are getting greedy - snapping up >technology companies instead of concentrating on their core >skills of providing the best languages (they've gone down that >road before and been badly burned) - there is a sense that >they are panicking in response to losing their best resource >to Microsoft - and pushing out product that is overpriced for >the market or not ready. That's not the Borland we know and >love, and as a long time Borland supporter, I want Borland to >succeed - they have a very loyal customer base and I can't see >these tactics doing Borland any favours. > >BTW you cannot legally use C#Builder personal for any >commercial development. > > >Brian 'who wouldn't be without his MSDN universal subscription >either' Leach -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic
and just cuz no one mentioned it ( not cuz it's better than UPCASE() & DOWNCASE() ), CONVERT does character for character swapping: CONVERT 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' TO 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ' in ANYSTR and CONVERT 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ' TO 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' in ANYSTR or UPSTR = CONVERT( 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz', 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ', ANYSTR ) and DNSTR = CONVERT( 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ', 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz', ANYSTR ) depending on your mood. Note the difference bstween REPLACE() & CONVERT(). Use REPLACE() to replace an entire substring with another substring. CONVERT does char by char. A common misconception. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
What kind of scripts? Batch files? I have a number of processes which write out and execute batch files and ordinary users can execute them just fine. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Adell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program you cannot run scripts if not logged in as administrator, but it would be possible to run an .exe . not sure if you know how to program c++ or vb. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
Bobby, Don't know if it will help but we utilize Net Satisfaxtion from Faxback along with Advancedware's AWFORMS software to fax and email documents. We are running Epicor's Dataflo software but the interface is coded in Unibasic print programs. Steve Moore Amerex Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message has been scanned for viruses by Webshield E500, Groupshield for Exchange, and McAfee Virus Enterprise -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
you cannot run scripts if not logged in as administrator, but it would be possible to run an .exe . not sure if you know how to program c++ or vb. > Thanks Jeremy, faxing is done by customer service, so everyone will need > access to this option. I am having to quickly come-up-to-speed on vbscript; > in my free time. We can get around this feature not working for a > while, but not for too long. > > Bobby Ramirez > Senior Programmer > Body Wise International > 714-368-1260 > http://www.bodywise.com/ > > -Original Message- > From: Jeremy Adell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:58 PM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: Re: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program > > Bobby, on the NT system are you logged in with administrator > privileges when > > this will be run, or as a limited user? > If administrator, you can use 'DOS /c ' similar to the shell > command. This will get you away from the UV contraints. I would not > recommend using a batch script, but something a little more powerful > like wsh scripting. you will need to know a bit about either > javascript or vbscript. It should give you control over everything > you would need in windows to do this. 'DOS /c cscript filename'. > Hopefully there is a simpler option though. > > > I have a program i need to port to a win2k server from DG/UX. This program > > generates a report that can be printed or Faxed. It dials a modem > connected > > to the unix server, and off goes the report. Has anyone tried a simular > > process on an NT server? > > > > My thought was to setup a Fax modem, and have the program execute a batch > > script to dial the number, but i am not sure how to "spool" to a fax, > > this ring any bells with anyone? > > > > Bobby Ramirez > > Senior Programmer > > Body Wise International > > 714-368-1260 > > http://www.bodywise.com/ > > > > -- > > u2-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > -- > Government Service Automation > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
Is there an easier Solution: Faxes in Windows are installed as Printers, therefore, could you create an alias for your Fax driver, such as FAX1 and then just write your mvBASIC code to send to that printer. Theoretically you could then even print to a fax from TCL using SETPTR ,,,AT FAX1 SELECT FILE WITH SORT FILE LPTR Now that begs the question, which is why I bring this up, "How can you then determine the phone number, etc.?" Someone has done this, right? Karl On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 14:58, Jeremy Adell wrote: > Bobby, on the NT system are you logged in with administrator privileges when > this will be run, or as a limited user? > If administrator, you can use 'DOS /c ' similar to the shell command. This > will get you away from the UV contraints. I would not recommend using a > batch script, but something a little more powerful like wsh scripting. you > will need to know a bit about either javascript or vbscript. It should give > you control over everything you would need in windows to do this. > 'DOS /c cscript filename'. Hopefully there is a simpler option though. > > > I have a program i need to port to a win2k server from DG/UX. This program > > generates a report that can be printed or Faxed. It dials a modem connected > > to the unix server, and off goes the report. Has anyone tried a simular > > process on an NT server? > > > > My thought was to setup a Fax modem, and have the program execute a batch > > script to dial the number, but i am not sure how to "spool" to a fax, > > this ring any bells with anyone? > > > > Bobby Ramirez > > Senior Programmer > > Body Wise International > > 714-368-1260 > > http://www.bodywise.com/ > > > > -- > > u2-users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > > -- > Government Service Automation -- Karl L. Pearson Director of IT, ATS Industrial Supply Direct: 801-978-4429 Toll-free: 888-972-3182 x29 Fax: 801-972-3888 http://www.atsindustrial.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
Thanks Jeremy, faxing is done by customer service, so everyone will need access to this option. I am having to quickly come-up-to-speed on vbscript; in my free time. We can get around this feature not working for a while, but not for too long. Bobby Ramirez Senior Programmer Body Wise International 714-368-1260 http://www.bodywise.com/ -Original Message- From: Jeremy Adell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:58 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program Bobby, on the NT system are you logged in with administrator privileges when this will be run, or as a limited user? If administrator, you can use 'DOS /c ' similar to the shell command. This will get you away from the UV contraints. I would not recommend using a batch script, but something a little more powerful like wsh scripting. you will need to know a bit about either javascript or vbscript. It should give you control over everything you would need in windows to do this. 'DOS /c cscript filename'. Hopefully there is a simpler option though. > I have a program i need to port to a win2k server from DG/UX. This program > generates a report that can be printed or Faxed. It dials a modem connected > to the unix server, and off goes the report. Has anyone tried a simular > process on an NT server? > > My thought was to setup a Fax modem, and have the program execute a batch > script to dial the number, but i am not sure how to "spool" to a fax, > this ring any bells with anyone? > > Bobby Ramirez > Senior Programmer > Body Wise International > 714-368-1260 > http://www.bodywise.com/ > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c
Easier is:
VAR='lowercase'
VAR = upcase(VAR)
CRT VAR
LOWERCASE
Reverse command:
VAR='UPPERCASE'
VAR = downcase(VAR)
CRT VAR
uppercase
Karl
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RE: How to schedule upl program in pick basic
If W2k you can use the "Scheduled Tasks" feature (start, settings, control panel) to kick off TCL commands. If Unix use "Cron". > > I have upl which calls a set of basic programs. The set of > programs will > create text files form Universe datanase. Can anyone tell me how to > schedule the UPL so that i can run the upl everday at particular time. __ This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or reply e-mail, and permanently delete this e-mail from your computer system. Thank you. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
Bobby, on the NT system are you logged in with administrator privileges when this will be run, or as a limited user? If administrator, you can use 'DOS /c ' similar to the shell command. This will get you away from the UV contraints. I would not recommend using a batch script, but something a little more powerful like wsh scripting. you will need to know a bit about either javascript or vbscript. It should give you control over everything you would need in windows to do this. 'DOS /c cscript filename'. Hopefully there is a simpler option though. > I have a program i need to port to a win2k server from DG/UX. This program > generates a report that can be printed or Faxed. It dials a modem connected > to the unix server, and off goes the report. Has anyone tried a simular > process on an NT server? > > My thought was to setup a Fax modem, and have the program execute a batch > script to dial the number, but i am not sure how to "spool" to a fax, > this ring any bells with anyone? > > Bobby Ramirez > Senior Programmer > Body Wise International > 714-368-1260 > http://www.bodywise.com/ > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How to schedule upl program in pick basic
What OS are you running - NT, Unix > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 4:49 PM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: How to schedule upl program in pick basic > > > Hi, > > > I have upl which calls a set of basic programs. The set of > programs will > create text files form Universe datanase. Can anyone tell me how to > schedule the UPL so that i can run the upl everday at particular time. > > > tx in advance > > regards > Reddy > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > __ This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or reply e-mail, and permanently delete this e-mail from your computer system. Thank you. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How to schedule upl program in pick basic
Um. Whats a upl? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:49 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: How to schedule upl program in pick basic Hi, I have upl which calls a set of basic programs. The set of programs will create text files form Universe datanase. Can anyone tell me how to schedule the UPL so that i can run the upl everday at particular time. tx in advance regards Reddy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
How to schedule upl program in pick basic
Hi, I have upl which calls a set of basic programs. The set of programs will create text files form Universe datanase. Can anyone tell me how to schedule the UPL so that i can run the upl everday at particular time. tx in advance regards Reddy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: UV 10.7 and replication
Thanks for the advice Charles. You definitely are right about what caused the problem. I tested a lab system by overloading a faster box and replicating the data to a slower box. That duplicated the error, too much disk i/o for the slower box to keep up its normal processes i guess. When i deleted the log file on the publisher that would not go away on its own, the error message would not occur again until i overloaded the publishing system again. By decreasing the time to say 5 minutes the problem would never occur again until i increased the level of disk i/o. leaving just now to fix the site. Thanks again for the help. sincerely, Jeremy > Jeremy, > Welcome to the group! I'm not familiar with the replication error > you're having but it sounds like you may want to simply try making > the replication time a lot longer. If the problem goes away, keep > halving the time until you find a 'sweet spot'. It doesn't fix the > problem, but it may make it go away long enough for you to find a > real answer. > > -- > - Charles Barouch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Zeus Data Integration > [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Consulting services > (718) 762-3884 x 1 - Key Ally Voice mail > Mount Olympus, Home of Zeus Data Integration > > Jeremy Adell wrote: > > >Hello all, > > > >The frequency of replication is 1 minute. > > Yesterday. the publishing system, another risc running on aix 5.1 with UV > >10.7, began to periodically give the error message 'udr log daemon is not > >responding, will try again' when trying to update certain files on > >publishing system. When the error message appears, the files will not be > >updated. A few seconds later, the same file may be updated without an error > >message. > > > > -- > Sincerely, > Charles Barouch > www.KeyAlly.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Government Service Automation -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c
Only downsides to these OCONV's is that McDonalds and O'Henry lose the 2nd
capitalized letter. The only true way to manage would be to have a BEGIN
CASE situation to look for MC or O' at the beginning and handle that way.
Plus maintain a list of unprogrammable exceptions.
I have a music database program that needs this, especially the exception
list like LeAnn Rimes, DJ Freddie, USA etc. Also, the exception list could
force certain words to not capitalize. The exception list's primary key is
the Uppercase version of the word and <1> is the true form.
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Re: UV 10.7 and replication
Jeremy, Welcome to the group! I'm not familiar with the replication error you're having but it sounds like you may want to simply try making the replication time a lot longer. If the problem goes away, keep halving the time until you find a 'sweet spot'. It doesn't fix the problem, but it may make it go away long enough for you to find a real answer. -- - Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Zeus Data Integration [EMAIL PROTECTED]- Consulting services (718) 762-3884 x 1 - Key Ally Voice mail Mount Olympus, Home of Zeus Data Integration™ Jeremy Adell wrote: Hello all, The frequency of replication is 1 minute. Yesterday. the publishing system, another risc running on aix 5.1 with UV 10.7, began to periodically give the error message 'udr log daemon is not responding, will try again' when trying to update certain files on publishing system. When the error message appears, the files will not be updated. A few seconds later, the same file may be updated without an error message. -- Sincerely, Charles Barouch www.KeyAlly.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
My company just did an evaluation on the various products available to convert the character based applications to GUI. I was not impressed with OI as it had several undocumented features, which had to have workarounds. Most of the problems were in attaching to our existing Unidata database. I was told that the demo version was an older version and that the latest version does not have those problems. I did not receive any other versions. HTH, Steve >but you must run your database on Windows with Revelation, right? I heard >through the grapevine that Windows was going away ;-) so I really want >something that is Windows-independent, yet where any client or server in the >mix could be Windows. > >But I do get the Revelation mailings and I think the company is doing good >work with/for their customers. > >--dawn > >Dawn M. Wolthuis >Tincat Group, Inc. >www.tincat-group.com > >Take and give some delight today. > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Dennis Bartlett >Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:56 AM >To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' >Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based > >Dawn > >Why dispense with the work already done in Data/Basic - I >know I plug >the language, and y'all ignore me, but OpenInsight (the GUI >version of >Advanced Revelation) looks and feels just like the Gates >product, _and_ >has the wonderful facility to use your already existing >DataBasic code. > >The basic is called R/Basic, looks just like DataBasic, with >a few extra >concepts like mouse control built in. Type ahead works just >like it does >in U2. > > >-- >u2-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > > -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic
ICONV or OCONV(fieldname,'MCL') uppercase to lowercase ICONV or OCONV(fieldname,'MCU') lowercase to uppercase Ron White - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:11 PM Subject: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic > Hi, > > > Can some one tell me how to convert lower case letters to uppercaseand > vise versa > > > tx in advance for the help > > > regards > reddy > -- > u2-users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users > --- --- [ Eckel certifies this E-mail to be virus free. ] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c
Another nice one is OCONV(Variable,"MCT"). If initial value of Variable is "TEST", result will be "Test". (First letter cap, subsequent letters lower case.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gordon Glorfield Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 2:14 PM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c UPCASE(Variable) or OCONV(Variable,'MCU') DOWNCASE(Variable) or OCONV(Variable,'MCL') Gordon J. Glorfield Sr. Applications Developer MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company) 301-360-8839 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic Hi, Can some one tell me how to convert lower case letters to uppercaseand vise versa tx in advance for the help regards reddy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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RE: @SPAM++++++ How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic
Hi, Use the conversion codes : MCU - make all upper case MCL - make all lower case MCT - make "capitalised" They can be used with the OCONV in BASIC or as a conversion statement in a file dictionary. IHTH Regards Neil. Neil Charrington C.A. Software Systems www.casoftware.co.uk www.mv4gl.com t: (44) 1564 777011 f: (44) 1564 739610 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 April 2004 20:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: @SPAM++ How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic Hi, Can some one tell me how to convert lower case letters to uppercaseand vise versa tx in advance for the help regards reddy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 15/04/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.659 / Virus Database: 423 - Release Date: 15/04/2004 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c
UPCASE(Variable) or OCONV(Variable,'MCU') DOWNCASE(Variable) or OCONV(Variable,'MCL') Gordon J. Glorfield Sr. Applications Developer MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company) 301-360-8839 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basic Hi, Can some one tell me how to convert lower case letters to uppercaseand vise versa tx in advance for the help regards reddy -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or proprietary information, and may be used only by the person or entity to which it is addressed. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or his or her authorized agent, the reader is hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete this e-mail immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: How do we convert lowercase letters to uppercase in Pick basi c
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Dialing a Fax/Modem from A UV basic program
I have a program i need to port to a win2k server from DG/UX. This program generates a report that can be printed or Faxed. It dials a modem connected to the unix server, and off goes the report. Has anyone tried a simular process on an NT server? My thought was to setup a Fax modem, and have the program execute a batch script to dial the number, but i am not sure how to "spool" to a fax, this ring any bells with anyone? Bobby Ramirez Senior Programmer Body Wise International 714-368-1260 http://www.bodywise.com/ -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
but you must run your database on Windows with Revelation, right? I heard through the grapevine that Windows was going away ;-) so I really want something that is Windows-independent, yet where any client or server in the mix could be Windows. But I do get the Revelation mailings and I think the company is doing good work with/for their customers. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Bartlett Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 3:56 AM To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based Dawn Why dispense with the work already done in Data/Basic - I know I plug the language, and y'all ignore me, but OpenInsight (the GUI version of Advanced Revelation) looks and feels just like the Gates product, _and_ has the wonderful facility to use your already existing DataBasic code. The basic is called R/Basic, looks just like DataBasic, with a few extra concepts like mouse control built in. Type ahead works just like it does in U2. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: OT: Terminal emulator for Mac
What? Actually BUY software? We all know that software developers work for free. -Original Message- From: Karl L Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:25 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: OT: Terminal emulator for Mac (was Re: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)) [snip] Of course, you then get to determine if taking the time to do that would be more expensive in your time than just picking up one of the $99-$149 products that may have a good 'canned' VT100 MAC emulator. [snip] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)
If Netware goes away, I'll not shed a single tear... Headaches for many clients would then go away also. Karl On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 02:09, Anthony Youngman wrote: > FYI, Novell HAVE purchased SuSE - the company, that is, not the > software. > > So, with regard to my previous post that I've snipped :-) expect Netware > to go the way of Native Pick in the very near future. It will go the way > of AP/Pro, where it looks like Netware for all intents and purposes, but > it's actually an app running on top of a hidden linux kernel. > > Cheers, > Wol > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Karl L Pearson > Sent: 21 April 2004 19:20 > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: RE: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread) > > I attended a VMWare symposium sponsored by IBM, Novell and a local > (quite large) consulting/programming/implementation firm. The > representative from Novell stated they would be completely off M$ > products by the end of the year with nearly all desktops using Suse > Linux and OpenOffice.org for their office suite. Apparently Novell has > purchased Suse, or at least a 'port' of Suse. Also, he stated that all > of Novell's commercial products would continue to run on Windows, > because of client demand, however their main focus would be in > writing/rewriting everything to run on Linux. That project was to have > been completed by last week, with announcements coming soon. Since I'm > not even remotely involved with Novell products, I haven't kept tabs on > that portion of the project. > > The IBM reps stated they they are also moving off M$ products. > > Just my 2 '.01's (insert appropriate currency marker) > > Karl > > > > > > This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private > and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on > anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any > way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission > error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your > information system. > > Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong > Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. > > -- Karl L. Pearson Director of IT, ATS Industrial Supply Direct: 801-978-4429 Toll-free: 888-972-3182 x29 Fax: 801-972-3888 http://www.atsindustrial.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: OT: Terminal emulator for Mac (was Re: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread))
I'm not sure, but gnome-terminal is open source, so theoretically, if you use MAC OS-X, you could port the source code over and compile it and have, if not complete, very close to it, VT100 emulation. Of course, you then get to determine if taking the time to do that would be more expensive in your time than just picking up one of the $99-$149 products that may have a good 'canned' VT100 MAC emulator. Karl On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:58, Clifton Oliver wrote: > Does anyone know of a reasonably priced terminal emulator for the Mac > that does *complete* VT100 or Wyse 50 emulation? > > -- > > Regards, > > Clif > > > On Apr 21, 2004, at 16:33, Stuart Boydell wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > I run a terminal emulator (Netterm) in 165x64 mode - no more because > > that's > > the smallest font I can read on the 17" monitor here. > > I run this on a Windows client against an aix/UV/SB+ app. > > The main advantage being that it just gives me lots of read space for > > programs. -- Karl L. Pearson Director of IT, ATS Industrial Supply Direct: 801-978-4429 Toll-free: 888-972-3182 x29 Fax: 801-972-3888 http://www.atsindustrial.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)
... On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 17:33, Stuart Boydell wrote: > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Karl, > > Sounds interesting. So you have a screen that is 80 columns by > 60 rows. Does that mean that you can than do PRINT @(0,60) to > get the bottom line of the screen? And can you do 132 by 60?? I use gnome-terminal on an X-Windows screen that is set at 1400x1050 in 24bit mode. I have a relatively small terminal font (old eyes so not as small as in the past) so I can have 2 80x60 windows open side-by-side, which gives me the capability to copy and paste from one to the other, do HELP BASIC XX in one and read it while typing in the other (Okay, I can't read and type anything coherent at the SAME time, but you get the idea). As for using @(0,60), no, I don't do that. I regularly use @(0,@CRTHIGH), or when changing width to test 132 column reports, do LIST.FILE.STATS to see more data, I will use @(@CRTWIDE) syntax. The very nice thing about gnome-terminal, and essentially all the Linux-based emulators, is that I can size a window to, say 134x70 (examples only), telnet to my AIX server and have the TCL TERM settings match. I use code like this to accomplish it: SET.DIMENSIONS 0001 execute 'sh -c \termdef\' capturing TERMTYP 0002 TERMTYP = TERMTYP<1> 0003 execute 'set.term.type ':TERMTYP capturing TERM.OUTPUT 0004 execute 'sh -c \termdef -c\' capturing TCOLS 0005 TCOLS = TCOLS<1> 0006 execute 'sh -c \termdef -l\' capturing TLINES 0007 TLINES = TLINES<1> 0008 execute 'TERM ':TCOLS:',':TLINES and call it from ~/uv/VOC UV.LOGIN. Karl > > Steve > > From: Karl L Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Okay, I'll bite. > > I use Linux exclusively, other than when forced to run win98 or win2000, > which I do on Linux in a VMware Workstation window, with my Linux > streaming video or audio running in the background... (my personal > touch) > > Running gnome-terminal in 80x60 mode, I can connect to our traditional > 'green screen' APP and see more, especially when coding more 'green > screen' parts to our APP. > > Karl -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
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Re[2]: Wintegrate 5.1 Query Builder
Another way is to secure the dangerous verbs per an answernet document from Datatel. I'm sorry but I do not have the number but it's easily searchable. --- Original Email From: Ian Renfrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Apr 22, 2004 08:26 AM To: U2 Users Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Wintegrate 5.1 Query Builder One ways is to remove the before / after fields and associated code, if any from the scripts. Regards, Ian Renfrew - Original Message - From: "Steven Frost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: Wintegrate 5.1 Query Builder Hi -- any way to disable users from using the Before and After fields at the bottom of the form. This can be used to enter DELETE,MODIFY, even CLEAR-FILE statements, and opens the database wide open to any sort of abuse , intentional or otherwise. Also , any other field in the form can be used to enter similar statements. Any comments? Thanks. Steven Frost POWERCO 35 Junction Street Private Bag 2004 New Plymouth New Zealand Helpdesk 0800491491 DDI: +64 6 759 6583 Fax: +64 6 759 6253 Mob: +64 274 403940 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.powerco.co.nz # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # CAUTION: This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, copy, distribute, disclose or use this email or any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please notify us and erase this email and any attachments. You must scan this email and any attachments for viruses. DISCLAIMER: Powerco Limited accepts no liability for any loss, damage or other consequences, whether caused by its negligence or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of this email or attachments or for any changes made to this email and any attachments after sending by Powerco Limited. The opinions expressed in this email and any attachments are not necessarily those of Powerco Limited. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Wintegrate 5.1 Query Builder
One ways is to remove the before / after fields and associated code, if any from the scripts. Regards, Ian Renfrew - Original Message - From: "Steven Frost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2 Users (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: Wintegrate 5.1 Query Builder Hi -- any way to disable users from using the Before and After fields at the bottom of the form. This can be used to enter DELETE,MODIFY, even CLEAR-FILE statements, and opens the database wide open to any sort of abuse , intentional or otherwise. Also , any other field in the form can be used to enter similar statements. Any comments? Thanks. Steven Frost POWERCO 35 Junction Street Private Bag 2004 New Plymouth New Zealand Helpdesk 0800491491 DDI: +64 6 759 6583 Fax: +64 6 759 6253 Mob: +64 274 403940 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.powerco.co.nz # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal # CAUTION: This email and any attachments may contain information that is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not read, copy, distribute, disclose or use this email or any attachments. If you have received this email in error, please notify us and erase this email and any attachments. You must scan this email and any attachments for viruses. DISCLAIMER: Powerco Limited accepts no liability for any loss, damage or other consequences, whether caused by its negligence or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of this email or attachments or for any changes made to this email and any attachments after sending by Powerco Limited. The opinions expressed in this email and any attachments are not necessarily those of Powerco Limited. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
At 01:06 AM 22/04/2004, Anthony Youngman wrote: Java (not necessarily Sun's version) will be available on any platform that people care to put it on. MS have made a point of saying (or at the very least not denying) that .net is intended to work best with Windows and, indeed, parts of it are likely to work ONLY with Windows. MS have applied to patent the .NET api(application no 0030028685). If the patent is granted and microsoft applies rand terms(reasonable and non discriminatory) as opposed to rf terms(royalty free) then every copy of mono or dotgnu or any other .net implementation will require licensing payment to microsoft. ie no open source implementations of .net will be possible. Apparently for the ecma microsoft promised rf for the core, but for other parts asp.net(web pages), ado.net(database access) and System.Windows(the gui) are fair game. Also System.Windows exposes the Win32 api so that you need a copy of windows or a windows emulator to support it. This means it is likely a "C++" solution will develop for C# where programmers on windows use System.Windows and linux developers use a GTK+ wrapper. Compare C++ developers which use MFC on windows and GTK+ or Qt on linux. - Robert -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Hello Anthony, At 08:57 PM 21/04/2004, Anthony Youngman wrote: That's a LITTLE unfair :-) Yes Miguel is a publicist, but the war is fought mainly by clueless lusers who don't understand the real issues :-( Check out this BBC interview: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/321433.stm ie "I don't think KDE has a future at this point" ...he obviously was trying to foster understanding for the KDE developers with his supporters. ;-) KDE is C++ and Free, Gnome is C and Open. There are fundamentally deep issues with regard to all four choices, and the developers mostly respect each others' viewpoints. It's a shame the lusers can't too. The C based Gnome thing, looks to be under a bit of review at the moment: http://ometer.com/desktop-language.html It will be interesting which way they go C# with a GTK style windowing or java based or stick with C/C++ which is evidently causing them problems. - Robert -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: We need a web based Forum!
I think I have found the holy grail! http://m2f.sourceforge.net/ Mail 2 Forum joins two separate worlds of internet based communication together. Until now, the phpBB web based bulletin board or forum systems existed completely separately and isolated from existing email based mailing list or list serve systems. Each system operated independently. Separately, each system has its own advantages and disadvantages. Electronic mailing lists are very simple and convenient for the end user, no harder than using the email he or she already uses. The disadvantage is there is little history or organization of past discussions. Emails tend to get lost in time and an email's content is only available to the original recipients. While some lists servers have the ability to keep a history or "archive" the email messages, the archiving is usually non-intelligent and non-categorized leaving the user with a mess of unorganized messages. Additionally, "archiving" is only uni-directional, meaning you may only go back and view the archives. At the same time web based forums like phpBB are very well suited for organized bi-directional discussion. Users may view or contribute to a subject by posting to a new or existing "thread" of information in any category now or in the future. Unfortunately, this requires the user to use the web based interface, for some this may be less convenient than email. Although, web based forums and email list serves both have the common purpose of communication, each system achieves this very differently. The purpose of Mail 2 Forum is to overlap the functionality of both forum systems and mailing list systems. Mail 2 Forum gives the user the best of both worlds. The initial release of Mail 2 Forum will include the following features... Integrates with phpBB (bulletin board/forum software) Allows posting to a phpBB forum via an email. Allows a copy of a phpBB forum messages to be delivered via email. Bidirectional communication is intelligently routed to or from appropriate forum/thread based on content. Users may subscribe/unsubscribe to mailing lists via the phpBB interface or via email. May be managed via the phpBB interface. May be used as a new mailing list server/manager May be used as mailing list manager with an existing mailing list server (like listserv or majordomo) Can synchronize with multiple email systems (sendmail, .forward, read files, read IMAP and POP3) Simple to use and administer. Secure and Anti spam features (uses phpbb security features) Open source code under GNU/GPL license. James Hogan -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Depends on your "local system". If it's a winterm or xterm, where's the hard disk for you to "have locally installed GUI apps"? What you've just defined is a "fat" client, not a "thin" one. By definition, a thin client *doesn't* *have* a disk attached to the local workstation... Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Bartlett Sent: 22 April 2004 09:46 To: 'U2 Users Discussion List' Subject: RE: GUI as nice as character-based Schalk, you don't have to send the screen layout up and down the lines - have locally installed GUI apps, pointing to remote site data. When the program loads up, it gets all it's programming power from the local workstation, and data transfer is at a minimum. I know this is a nirvana, and a real drag to implement on legacy systems, but it can be done. One solution I saw was to have every possible screen display / prompt string stored in files (this app was a library system, and different language interfaces were stored). These storage files were stored locally on LAN drives, with the data stored at one central place. It worked a bomb. This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Over the passed 10 years I have designed and developed numerous GUI front-end's to MV databases and in most cases the data transfer between the client and the server has reduced, no terminal control strings only data. How much data is transferred depends on the design of your app. design Regards Ed Witney NCO Financial Services (UK) Limited 2nd Floor, Windsor House 1270 London Road Norbury SW16 4DH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: 0208 565 4749 Fax: 0208 565 4708 DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. -Original Message- From: Schalk van Zyl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 April 2004 11:52 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject:Re: GUI as nice as character-based << File: ATT22903.txt >> Dawn and all, Another aspect of GUI, which we sure have to consider, is data communication lines. Our operation is spread over 1000 kilometres, and sending GUI screens back and forth will certainly clog our lines. Except when you make use of local intelligence. The volume of data sent to paint a GUI screen must certainly be a factor of 50 more than with CUI. (?) Schalk On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:02:31 +0100, Brian Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To go back to Dawn's original post - > > Dawn, > > I've been writing GUI applications for UniVerse for about 15 years now. > Some > have worked, some have - well - been learning experiences. > > You shouldn't really compare GUI and character based. Why? Because then > you > inevitably start to think of the GUI in character based terms - the > arrangement of controls on a form, or the addition of some buttons. > That's > my main beef with 'intelligent' terminals - they obscure the real > picture. > > GUI is not about what you put on the screen. It's about the flow of > information, and how that flow best suits the application in question. > Data > entry is part of that flow, but only part: character based is good for > some > data entry and for administration, but a good application is also about > navigation, culture and the ease of finding information again. > > Here are two very different examples: > > I did a freight forwarding package for a company that previously was > entirely paper based. They took a - let's say "flexible" - approach to > rules, validations, pricing, descriptions etc - and wanted to keep that. > Providing a traditional system, with a nailed down design and entry > screens > just wouldn't work for them. In fact I tried that first as a prototype, > and > it didn't. Not in their culture. > So I designed a system that worked the same way as their forms. Every > page > matched the standard forms they used, except that information > automatically > infilled, was sent to their billing systems, collated to their work flow > for > follow ups and diarising etc ... But all invisibly. What they 'saw' were > the > forms they had used throughout. Even the validation was fairly soft, and > consisted mainly of highlighting things that were suspect. Annoying > popups > were kept to an absolute minimum, text and codes expanded directly from > typing, and generally the whole thing designed to look and feel as > unobtrusive as possible: nothing to interrupt their work flow. I couldn't > have done that with a character based system because it couldn't have > represented the compexity of some of the forms (try doing an airway bill > or > customs declaration form and you'll see what I mean). > > As a more traditional example, I have a project management system that I > both designed and use. This is based on drill down principles, allowing > me > to track projects, modules, scheduled and tasks. Here the advantage of a > GUI > is persistence and workflow: because a GUI allows me to have multiple > windows open modelessly, I can track down from the projects or work lists > into the individual tasks whilst keeping the lists (heirarchically > arranged) > still visible, so I don't have to keep closing down windows or > reselecting: > generally much more efficient. I can also display more, since most of the > time I am interested in viewing information rather than changing it - > and at > the viewing stage I can use smaller fonts to display things that when > amended need larger screen estate. The diary is a case in point: I can > use > colours and smaller fonts to show different entries in a way that a green > screen application wouldn't accommodate. And naturally I keep a document > path, so any documents/project plans/applications or other materials > connected with a task can be opened directly on my desktop. > > I have seen good GUIs: ones that improve process and work flow and make > life > genuinely easier. > I have seen bad GUIs that interrupt work flow, slow people down (bl**dy > mice > and me
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RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Dawn Why dispense with the work already done in Data/Basic - I know I plug the language, and y'all ignore me, but OpenInsight (the GUI version of Advanced Revelation) looks and feels just like the Gates product, _and_ has the wonderful facility to use your already existing DataBasic code. The basic is called R/Basic, looks just like DataBasic, with a few extra concepts like mouse control built in. Type ahead works just like it does in U2. You'd have to remove all screen displays (if you wanted to be a purist) or you could do a quick-n-dirty like we did, and get the character based screen output stored in COMO and then parse the required data from there (saved having to re-invent the functionality of each screen. That way the users using character based saw exactly the same data the GUI folk saw without having to create brand new code in an interface one wasn't so familiar with. All we did was write a fancy screen parsing routine, call it from a zillion places, populate a GUI screen and hey! Presto. Somethin' to think about.. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Schalk, you don't have to send the screen layout up and down the lines - have locally installed GUI apps, pointing to remote site data. When the program loads up, it gets all it's programming power from the local workstation, and data transfer is at a minimum. I know this is a nirvana, and a real drag to implement on legacy systems, but it can be done. One solution I saw was to have every possible screen display / prompt string stored in files (this app was a library system, and different language interfaces were stored). These storage files were stored locally on LAN drives, with the data stored at one central place. It worked a bomb. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schalk van Zyl Sent: 20 April 2004 12:52 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: GUI as nice as character-based Dawn and all, Another aspect of GUI, which we sure have to consider, is data communication lines. Our operation is spread over 1000 kilometres, and sending GUI screens back and forth will certainly clog our lines. Except when you make use of local intelligence. The volume of data sent to paint a GUI screen must certainly be a factor of 50 more than with CUI. (?) Schalk On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:02:31 +0100, Brian Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To go back to Dawn's original post - > > Dawn, > > I've been writing GUI applications for UniVerse for about 15 years > now. > Some > have worked, some have - well - been learning experiences. > > You shouldn't really compare GUI and character based. Why? Because > then > you > inevitably start to think of the GUI in character based terms - the > arrangement of controls on a form, or the addition of some buttons. > That's > my main beef with 'intelligent' terminals - they obscure the real > picture. > > GUI is not about what you put on the screen. It's about the flow of > information, and how that flow best suits the application in question. > Data entry is part of that flow, but only part: character based is > good for some > data entry and for administration, but a good application is also about > navigation, culture and the ease of finding information again. > > Here are two very different examples: > > I did a freight forwarding package for a company that previously was > entirely paper based. They took a - let's say "flexible" - approach to > rules, validations, pricing, descriptions etc - and wanted to keep > that. Providing a traditional system, with a nailed down design and > entry screens just wouldn't work for them. In fact I tried that first > as a prototype, and > it didn't. Not in their culture. > So I designed a system that worked the same way as their forms. Every > page > matched the standard forms they used, except that information > automatically > infilled, was sent to their billing systems, collated to their work flow > for > follow ups and diarising etc ... But all invisibly. What they 'saw' were > the > forms they had used throughout. Even the validation was fairly soft, and > consisted mainly of highlighting things that were suspect. Annoying > popups > were kept to an absolute minimum, text and codes expanded directly from > typing, and generally the whole thing designed to look and feel as > unobtrusive as possible: nothing to interrupt their work flow. I couldn't > have done that with a character based system because it couldn't have > represented the compexity of some of the forms (try doing an airway bill > or > customs declaration form and you'll see what I mean). > > As a more traditional example, I have a project management system that > I both designed and use. This is based on drill down principles, > allowing me to track projects, modules, scheduled and tasks. Here the > advantage of a GUI > is persistence and workflow: because a GUI allows me to have multiple > windows open modelessly, I can track down from the projects or work lists > into the individual tasks whilst keeping the lists (heirarchically > arranged) > still visible, so I don't have to keep closing down windows or > reselecting: > generally much more efficient. I can also display more, since most of the > time I am interested in viewing information rather than changing it - > and at > the viewing stage I can use smaller fonts to display things that when > amended need larger screen estate. The diary is a case in point: I can > use > colours and smaller fonts to show different entries in a way that a green > screen application wouldn't accommodate. And naturally I keep a document > path, so any documents/project plans/applications or other materials > connected with a task can be opened directly on my desktop. > > I have seen good GUIs: ones that improve process and work flow and > make > life > genuinely easier. > I have seen bad GUIs that interrupt work flow, slow people down (bl**dy > mice > and message boxes). > > Good GUI works. > Bad GUI is bad bad bad. > > But too often GUI is blamed for the lack of vision or competen
RE: GUI as nice as character-based
Tony, >>Respectfully Brian, I seriously disagree and we owe it to ourselves to get up to date on the cost of development software. As you know I'm a huge Delphi fan and don't resent the cost of that. Until Delphi 7, whose only improvement over Delphi 6 was support for .Net that never materialised in any useable form. I was particularly unimpressed when I learned that the Borland demonstrations at DCOM in London using Delphi with the Compact framework on Pocket PC, were the result of a compiler hack and that this functionality was not available in the product. The whole edition had the feel of a knee-jerk response, and that knocked my faith somewhat: frankly I don't expect that kind of thing from Borland. C++Builer and J#Builder both add significant value to any development, and I don't resent the cost of those. Ditto for Kylix. But C#Builder is a borrowed technology and the cost seems way high for what is essentially a wrapper around a compiler that is otherwise available for free. The cost seems to be set to reflect that of Visual Studio .Net, which offers far more in terms of functionality than the Borland IDE: and it got hammered by the computer press over here for exactly that reason. I'm worried that Borland are getting greedy - snapping up technology companies instead of concentrating on their core skills of providing the best languages (they've gone down that road before and been badly burned) - there is a sense that they are panicking in response to losing their best resource to Microsoft - and pushing out product that is overpriced for the market or not ready. That's not the Borland we know and love, and as a long time Borland supporter, I want Borland to succeed - they have a very loyal customer base and I can't see these tactics doing Borland any favours. BTW you cannot legally use C#Builder personal for any commercial development. Brian 'who wouldn't be without his MSDN universal subscription either' Leach This email was checked on leaving Microgen for viruses, similar malicious code and inappropriate content by MessageLabs SkyScan. DISCLAIMER This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information. In the event of any technical difficulty with this email, please contact the sender or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microgen Information Management Solutions http://www.microgen.co.uk -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: We need a web based Forum!
In a message dated 4/22/2004 12:29:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> Seems to me a system where
> *email ("the list") carries on as usual
> *All emailed responses are submitted as forum responses
> *All forum responses are whooshed out to the list as email
I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never seen such an
animal in action myself. I think it's mythical.
Will
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RE: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread)
FYI, Novell HAVE purchased SuSE - the company, that is, not the software. So, with regard to my previous post that I've snipped :-) expect Netware to go the way of Native Pick in the very near future. It will go the way of AP/Pro, where it looks like Netware for all intents and purposes, but it's actually an app running on top of a hidden linux kernel. Cheers, Wol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karl L Pearson Sent: 21 April 2004 19:20 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: RE: What client platform do YOU use (Parallel to GUI thread) I attended a VMWare symposium sponsored by IBM, Novell and a local (quite large) consulting/programming/implementation firm. The representative from Novell stated they would be completely off M$ products by the end of the year with nearly all desktops using Suse Linux and OpenOffice.org for their office suite. Apparently Novell has purchased Suse, or at least a 'port' of Suse. Also, he stated that all of Novell's commercial products would continue to run on Windows, because of client demand, however their main focus would be in writing/rewriting everything to run on Linux. That project was to have been completed by last week, with announcements coming soon. Since I'm not even remotely involved with Novell products, I haven't kept tabs on that portion of the project. The IBM reps stated they they are also moving off M$ products. Just my 2 '.01's (insert appropriate currency marker) Karl This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your information system. Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: ODBC not dropping connection following client crash
Hi Peter, Please see my previous message first of all about the helper message error. Also the fact UniData hasn't cleared the processes up correctly yet, is because as far as UniData is concerned they probally haven't died, this is most probally down to your network settings which are not sending the correct drop signals for UniData to recognise. You will have to wait for the processes to timeout, UniData (and UniVerse) have a unirpcservices file which controls the length of time your udservd process will be kept alive. Also you will not be able to restart the Unirpc process until ALL the process associated with it, have disappeared as the port will still be in use. Some O/S's still take some time to free the port after all the processes have been killed. You may well need IBM support on this issue, have you tried contacting your UniData supplier (who should have a support arrangement with IBM) as this seems as if it could be quite a sticky one to clean up. However it could all be related to your previous helper error . Regards, Jonathan Smith IBM Certified Solutions Expert Advanced Support Engineer - U2 Advanced Technical Support IBM Data Management Solutions Support Phone 0800 773 771 Support Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: Strange UniData ODBC Error
Hi Peter, Try checking the permission's on the following files udsrvhlpd and udsrvd. More likely to be the udsrvhlpd file though. Open the permission's to '555' in Unix Terms (Read + Execute for all) Thanks, Jonathan Smith IBM Certified Solutions Expert Advanced Support Engineer - U2 Advanced Technical Support IBM Data Management Solutions Support Phone 0800 773 771 Support Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ibm.com/software/data/u2/support - Open, Query, Update, Search - Online! DISCLAIMER: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please delete it and notify the sender immediately. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: We need a web based Forum!
Definitely an honourable reply.
The thing is tho', that if they don't do it in the most
"accepted/requested" way, they'll have more hassle in the long run,
forever being bombarded with petty whinging.
Seems to me a system where
* email ("the list") carries on as usual
* All emailed responses are submitted as forum responses
* All forum responses are whooshed out to the list as email
would work.
Where you get this, how you write it, what bean you imbibe whilst
contemplating it, is beyond me.
I salute those who have shouldered the dragon, the feeding of which I
fear may become an all-consuming task. Design it (him/her/Puff) well,
feed it regularly, clean up the mountainous excretia, hell,even get the
right fit for its racing leathers and pray it doesn't burn you, and all
should bode well for a long and happy future.
Puff? Hmm... Puff the Magic Dragon??? .
(P)ost(U)2-Userlist(F)riends of the
(F)orum
Ok, so that's a little limp. Your turn...
-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum!
Thanks.
Sounds to me as though it should be the choice of whoever is shouldering
the responsibility of looking after it. If they are prepared to do the
work, then I applaud them and am privileged to be able to use it, in
whatever way they choose.
Cheers, Kate
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RE: [UD] Known ODBC Linux or 6.0 issues?
Dawn M. Wolthuis wrote: > I think someone posted the name of the voc entry required if you want > to do something at the time of an ODBC login, such as initializing > named common memory. Otherwise, I suspect it is in the doc somewhere > (sorry I don't have more details). Check the voc on your previous > system for an entry like ...ODBC... and on the new and be sure the > same routine is present, compiled, cataloged on both machines. --dawn The entire account got moved across, VOC and all and then convcode/convdata-ed. So I don't think we can be missing any VOC entries, but I cannot find any sign of a paragraph which fits the description. I've also searched the PDF doco and the list archives but can't find anything which says what the name of the paragraph/cataloged routine needs to be in order to do one-time initialisation for ODBC sessions like LOGIN does for udt sessions. I do notice that if I go to the account directory and go straight into "sql" (no LOGIN paragraph run) the query fails abruptly with a message about an unopened file variable and a MATREAD error, but if I go first into udt (LOGIN initialisation runs) and then from there to sql then the query is fine. Can anybody definitively say what I need to have (VOC entry or cataloged routine) and what it needs to be called in order to get initialisation done when an ODBC session is connected? Cheers, Ken -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
