RE: [ot] Peoplesoft migrates to Ascential

2004-01-29 Thread Phil Walker
Title: Message









No. 

 

Peoplesoft used
Informatica to import/export and move data around within their product suite,
now they use DataStage, NOT Universe. The data is stored in Oracle or other
RDBMS – DataStage with its underlying engine based on UniVerse of 1-2 years ago
processes the data and that is all.

 

Phil

 

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Subject: RE: [ot] Peoplesoft
migrates to Ascential

 

So, in
simplest terms, Peoplesoft is now an MV/UniVerse like product?

(forgive
my ignorance, as I have never worked with Peoplesoft.)

--Glenn.

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migrates to Ascential


Ascential is basically VMark/Ardent.  Almost all of the engineering,
sales, support
staff that were responsible for Universe up until UV Rel 9.6 work for 
Ascential (myself and Glenn being two you've come to know over the years)

When the split occurred, IBM retained the rights to sell/develop the UniVerse
product, as well as the former UniData engineers who were trained on the 
internals of UnIverse.  They now are responsible for UV releases, with UV
Rel 10
being the first release to come from there.  

Ascential also kept the rights to the source code.  Internal to the
DataStage 
product set (specifically what is known as DataStage Server, not to be confused
with DataStage PX, TX, or 390) is the UniVerse engine, re-branded the 
DataStage Engine.  It is only available as part of the DS Server package.

So no, Ascential is not a Universe customer.  However, IBM is an Ascential
customer and reseller.  They resell the DataStage product suite.

It does increase the footprint of enterprises around the world that have one
of those MV engines running at their site, though.

Dave

At 08:30 AM 1/29/2004 -0600, you wrote:



Thanks for
passing that along.  Is Ascential a Universe customer of IBM's or
did they end up taking Universe and changing it so that they are yet another
flavor of 'PICK' (not yet on my MultiValue Family Tree diagram)?  If so,
is
it now called something other than Universe?  Thanks.  --dawn


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RE: [UV] TAB characters in ED

2004-01-29 Thread Phil Walker
Modify ED.B do get it to do what you want if it cannot. It is only BASIC
source code which I had the unfortunate task of porting from PI/OPEN.

Cheers,

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Craig,

I believe this is a function of your terminal emulator. Some emulators let
you set the tab character spacing, etc.

Checkout the source code to UV line editor in the UV account, in the BP file
- ED.B.

Regards
David


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Hi All,

does anyone know if you can adjust how ED displays TAB characters?
Specifically if I can adjust the display width of the tab character?

thanks,


Craig Bennett



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RE: UniCommand via UniObjects (Java)

2004-02-24 Thread Phil Walker
I think it would be better to put it into a paragraph so that you can handle
errors from individual commands anyway.

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Sorry, I haven't tried this with Uniobjects, perhaps it's stripping the @FM
somehow??

You could always put the commands into a paragraph and run that - or write a
program that executes all of the commands that it is sent...

good luck
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Stu Pickles


>-Original Message-
>From: Donald Kibbey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>I'm attempting to send a compound command with the UniCommand
>object and have hit what looks like a documented limitation.
>Before I go off and rethink how I'm doing this, I thought I'd
>ask to make sure this really won't work.
>
>What I'm attempting is to run something like this under UniObjects.
>
>QSELECT CLIENT.XREF "12345" :@FM: SSELECT AR.TR BY MATTER WITH
>INVOICE = "12345"
>
>On this system, doing this results in a very quick selection
>of a couple hundred records out of the AR.TR file.  But, the
>docs for UniObjects say only one command at a time.  Does this
>mean that sticking a couple commands together like this is
>just not possible?  I've tried it and it looks like the
>QSELECT is being attempted with all parts of the command string.
>
>If it won't work, I suppose I'll be reduced to writing up a
>stub of a program to do the same thing and just call it from
>the UniObjects side of things.  But, if there's a better way,
>I'm all ears.
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RE: UniCommand via UniObjects (Java)

2004-02-24 Thread Phil Walker
I believe he can just call a paragraph such

PARAGRAPH 12345

Where PARAGRAPH is the following VOC entry

PA
* <>
QSELECT CLIENT.XREF "<>"
SSELECT AR.TR BY MATTER WITH INVOICE = "<>"




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I think you can put the commands in a single paragraph and run that from
UniObjects.  You'll have to pass in the DATA to the paragraph (since I
figure that 12345 is the value of a variable) and I haven't tried that with
UOJ, but I suspect others have.  Good luck.  --dawn

Dawn M. Wolthuis
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Subject: UniCommand via UniObjects (Java)

I'm attempting to send a compound command with the UniCommand object and
have hit what looks like a documented limitation.  Before I go off and
rethink how I'm doing this, I thought I'd ask to make sure this really won't
work.

What I'm attempting is to run something like this under UniObjects.

QSELECT CLIENT.XREF "12345" :@FM: SSELECT AR.TR BY MATTER WITH INVOICE =
"12345"

On this system, doing this results in a very quick selection of a couple
hundred records out of the AR.TR file.  But, the docs for UniObjects say
only one command at a time.  Does this mean that sticking a couple commands
together like this is just not possible?  I've tried it and it looks like
the QSELECT is being attempted with all parts of the command string.

If it won't work, I suppose I'll be reduced to writing up a stub of a
program to do the same thing and just call it from the UniObjects side of
things.  But, if there's a better way, I'm all ears.

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Two ways to acquire the U2 Tech Support Survival Kit CD

2004-03-02 Thread Phil Walker
Could you post the link to the list?

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Hi David,

In the latest IBM U2 Newsletter they have an email address with instructions
to get the CD sent to you. I got mine yesterday so about two to three
working days.

> What about us down here? Is it available outside the US?

Yes it is available outside the US (I'm in Melbourne).

Regards,

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Formating Negative Numbers

2004-03-10 Thread Phil Walker
Does anyone have a quick way to format a negative number in a field filled
with zeros such that the '-' sign appears at the front replacing the 1st
zero.

For example

-2  using 'R%6' becomes -2
2   using 'R%6' becomes 02

But I would like -2 to become -2 and 2 to remain 02. I know I could
write code to do this, but I was wondering if you can do it just using the
fmt syntax.

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RE: EVAL

2004-03-12 Thread Phil Walker
I seem to remember, and I must stress vaguely, that in SQL it depended on
the justification of the left hand operand.

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The result of every EVAL is (deemed to be) a string.
Try using both FMT and CONV field qualifiers.  FMT for the right
justification and CONV to try to convince the query engine that it's dealing
with numbers - either the "MD" or the "MR" conversion should do it.
LIST file EVAL "expression" CONV "MD0" FMT "10R"
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UV 10.1.0 on Linux

2004-03-14 Thread Phil Walker
All,

I know this question has been asked before, but is UniVerse supported on
versions of Linux other than Redhat, such as Debian, SUSE etc? I imagine it
is not hard to get working, but would IBM then regard it as being certified?

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RE: UV 10.1.0 on Linux

2004-03-14 Thread Phil Walker
David,

We have been running UV9.6 and UV 10.0 for a while on a non-Redhat
distribution of Linux with at hardened kernel and have had no known problems
;-). But we are in the process of planning for an upgrade to 10.1.0
(although I see 10.1.1 is now out) and I am wondering what we should do.

I doubt UV takes advantage of any Redhat specific features but you never
know.

Cheers,

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Hi Phil,

I am not too sure about the UV certication but for Informix IBM certify
to a certain release of glibc etc. so it doesn't matter which release
you wish to use just make sure your libraries are the correct level.

I would presume UV will be pretty similar, perhaps Leroy or Wally could
shed some light as to what libraries and what release levels it
requires?

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All,

I know this question has been asked before, but is UniVerse supported on
versions of Linux other than Redhat, such as Debian, SUSE etc? I imagine
it
is not hard to get working, but would IBM then regard it as being
certified?

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RE: The lists are closing

2004-03-27 Thread Phil Walker
Clif,

Ditto my comments on the DataStage list. It will be interesting to see if
your efforts can be emulated on these other vehicles.

Phil

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Dear Friends:

After 10+ years of either hosting or supporting the info-prime,
info-unidata, info-vmark, info-informix, and u2-users etc lists, I have
decided to shut down the list server.

u2-users and u2-community will cease to exist as of 1 April 2004. IBM is
officially supporting the efforts of the new U2UG.org group. (Yes. I am
a member of the establishing Board of that group. So this is not a
"coup" or Sour Grapes!) If you check out the forums that have been set
up, I think you will will see that they cover everything anyone has
asked for over the years in this group.

I *really* want to encourage ALL of you to come over the the
www.u2ug.org site and support this effort. This is *exactly* what many
of you on this list have wanted over the years. If Not Now, When?

Almost ten years on my Watch. How many years before that on Mike
O'Rear's Watch? In the Net World, this has been a Hell of a good run. (I
just couldn't resist tripping the Net Nanny filters one last time )

I'll see all of you on the other media, ok?

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RE: The lists are closing

2004-03-28 Thread Phil Walker
David,

As the list is closing this is probably not off topic - so I will comment.

I believe PICK has been around since the mid to late 1960's, whereas Oracle
and the SQL relation model has been around only since the mid to late 1970's
early 1980's if you are talking about Oracle etc.

I may be wrong.

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Best of luck Jeff, however I will point out the obvious, what is your
definition of modern? I would have thought the good old "relational
databases" have been around since before pick anyway? 8-)

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Thanks for the memories Cliff :)

Sorry to hear the lists are closing, but what the heck time and tide,
work committments etc.

As some one who is shortly to be ex mv, and moving into the more modern
technologies l will decline the offer to join, but wish the site all the
best.

Cheers,
Jeff

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Dear Friends:

After 10+ years of either hosting or supporting the info-prime,
info-unidata, info-vmark, info-informix, and u2-users etc lists, I have
decided to shut down the list server.

u2-users and u2-community will cease to exist as of 1 April 2004. IBM is

officially supporting the efforts of the new U2UG.org group. (Yes. I am
a member of the establishing Board of that group. So this is not a
"coup" or Sour Grapes!) If you check out the forums that have been set
up, I think you will will see that they cover everything anyone has
asked for over the years in this group.

I *really* want to encourage ALL of you to come over the the
www.u2ug.org site and support this effort. This is *exactly* what many
of you on this list have wanted over the years. If Not Now, When?

Almost ten years on my Watch. How many years before that on Mike
O'Rear's Watch? In the Net World, this has been a Hell of a good run. (I

just couldn't resist tripping the Net Nanny filters one last time )

I'll see all of you on the other media, ok?

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RE: Modern Universe - was: The lists are closing

2004-03-28 Thread Phil Walker
Way to go Trevor.

All right a flame war before this list disappears ;-). Maybe in this war the
ANZACS will stick together unlike Herr Clarke and her band of lefties.

I agree with Trevor. I have seen a number of companies spend tens of
millions of dollars moving from a legacy system on UV to systems such as JDE
on oracle, SAP on oracle, and the business was no better off.  In one case
they never even went live with the other system. Oxford Health in the US was
another case but I do not know the details of it.

My 2 cents worth...

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Joe

One bigot to another. Horses for courses - of course!

You'll never catch me alive messing with "mainstream" databases. Our users
have baulked at the price tag on 'mainstream' database solutions for
decades.

If the MV databases are so 'behind the times' then how come they were the
first in Australia to go live with ATM banking then Internet Banking.
'Mainstream' is not always best. I say 'viva la difference' (French
spelling?).

Cheers

Trevor Ockenden
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PICK is LEGACY Technology and does NOT Support alot of advanced
level computing we have today. I belive PICK is Similiar to Legacy DB2
that used ISAM type of DataBases Access. Even IBM has moved DB2 (Now UDB)
to a completly relational architecture.

I belive some of the below are good reasons to Migrate to
MainStream (Top 3 - DB2/Oracle/MSSQL etc) Databases.

1. UV has Little/NO support for Emerging Technologies(XML/XQuery/XSLT/WML
etc)
2. UV is Not supported in Most Integration Enterprise Software
(SAP/PeopleSoft)
3. UV is Not efficient compared to highly evolved databases(DB2/Oracle)
4. UV Folks seem to use PICK, which is Not Compatible with many of
   of the Current Advanced Technologies and Techniques.
5. UV is very SLOW, TOO Procedural and Not the right tool for
an OLTP Environment.

It would be nice if IBM provided a Package to convert all UV Stuff to
IBM DB2 and perhaps provide some kinda code converter to convert
all pick stuff to DB2 Stored Procs or Java Native Compiled Procedures.
I belive this would be ideal and would help corportations intergrate
systems easily.

Joe Eugene





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David,

As the list is closing this is probably not off topic - so I will comment.

I believe PICK has been around since the mid to late 1960's, whereas Oracle
and the SQL relation model has been around only since the mid to late 1970's
early 1980's if you are talking about Oracle etc.

I may be wrong.

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Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 12:36 PM
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Subject: RE: The lists are closing

Best of luck Jeff, however I will point out the obvious, what is your
definition of modern? I would have thought the good old "relational
databases" have been around since before pick anyway? 8-)

Regards

David Logan
Database Administrator
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Adelaide 5000
Australia

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RE: Timestamp

2004-04-28 Thread Phil Walker
All,

How about the following (86400 * DATE()) + TIME()):".":GETPID()?. You could
use common to check that (86400 * DATE()) + TIME()) is unique within the
process, and should probably check that the date has not changed between
calling DATE and TIME.

This would be unique system wide I believe.

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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 1:23 AM
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Subject: RE: Timestamp

Hi Ken,

At 07:56 PM 28/04/2004, Ken Wallis wrote:
>Of course one could easily write a FUNCTION that concatenated DATE() and
>TIME() and used named common to keep track of the last value it gave out to
>decide if it needed to add an alpha character and if so, which one, but
that

What about SYSTEM(12) instead of TIME() ?

>would only be unique inside the user's session, not system wide.  If you
>wanted something that was unique system wide, you might need to go slightly
>further than one alpha character and you'd need to involve writing
something
>away to a file (or at least locking something) to get coordination between
>sessions, and there'd be an overhead associated with that of course.

Would be much better to have a record in a control file that is regularly
incremented.

ie in pseudo code:
 READU COUNTER FROM CONTROL, COUNTERNAME;
 COUNTER +=1;
 WRITE COUNTER TO CONTROL,COUNTERNAME
 ...use COUNTER as you unique id

>It would also be quite trivial to knock up a CALLC function that obtained
>the value returned by the time() C runtime function which gives the number
>of seconds since somewhere in 1970.  Computationally that would be the most
>efficient, but again, it wouldn't be unique system wide.

You should have "Use CALLC to solve your problem" in your sig to save
typing it every day.

;-)

- Robert


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