RE: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!
> I'm a show-me kind-of-guy, so name the forum or post a link > so we can all see that it works that way :) > Will I did give the name, did you read the entire message? If you want to see it in action you'll have to install the trial version that David Scoggins posted a link to. Given the cost, I doubt U2UG will use that package. But the existing U2UG forums are only missing the post-to-forum-via-email option, they already email out when there is a post. Not bad for free, and as soon as someone is sufficiently motivated, I'm sure the option will be added. If it's open source, your choices are to do it yourself, pay someone to do it now, or wait until someone gets around to doing it for free. -- Wendy Smoak Application Systems Analyst, Sr. ASU IA Information Resources Management -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!
In a message dated 4/23/2004 11:32:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > > seen such an > > animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. > > Will > > It is not mythical, one of the forums I use works exactly > like that. I'm a show-me kind-of-guy, so name the forum or post a link so we can all see that it works that way :) Will -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: OT RE: We need a web based Forum!
> -Original Message- > From: Wendy Smoak > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 8:33 AM > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: OT RE: We need a web based Forum! > > > I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > > seen such an animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. > > Will > > It is not mythical, one of the forums I use works exactly like that. > You do have to be set up as a user and "subscribe" to the forums you > want to read. But after that, emails show up on the forum, > and anything posted to the forum goes out via email. > A quick look says that the forum software is... > O'Reilly WebBoard 4.20.82 (c)1995-2000 Duke Engineering/O'Reilly & > Associates, Inc. > WebBoard is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. Nice. http://webboard.oreilly.com/products/webboard/index.cfm However, it looks like O'Reilly sold it to another company in '01, and the standard edition is $3995, which - I'm guessing - is a bit out of the price range. It's a shame there doesn't seem to be a free (as in beer AND in speech) alternative that supports these features. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
OT RE: We need a web based Forum!
> I would whole-heartedly agree with this. BUT I have never > seen such an > animal in action myself. I think it's mythical. > Will It is not mythical, one of the forums I use works exactly like that. You do have to be set up as a user and "subscribe" to the forums you want to read. But after that, emails show up on the forum, and anything posted to the forum goes out via email. (It even puts a cute little "postmark" on the message if you view it on the web page, to show it was posted via email.) A quick look says that the forum software is... O'Reilly WebBoard 4.20.82 (c)1995-2000 Duke Engineering/O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. WebBoard is a trademark of O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. -- Wendy Smoak Application Systems Analyst, Sr. ASU IA Information Resources Management -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!
"We are tied down to a language which makes up in obscurity what it lacks in style." Have you ever noticed how often the little word "but" negates the previous clause? I don't mean to be cruel, but... I knew that program hadn't been completely tested, but... I don't want to hurt your feelings, but... It is frequently used to separate an insincere mollification clause from the true intent of the rest of the sentence. I know this thread is not about U2 Tech, is off-topic, and properly should be moved to u2-community, but I want to let it run for a while longer so the new list hosts can have the benefit of the group's comments without the new moderators having to decide whether or not to End Thread it. And I don't want the poster of the message to which this is in response to think that I am using his linguistic slip to tease everybody, but I am. ;-) -- Regards, Clif On Apr 21, 2004, at 7:17, it was written: OK, I hate to keep perpetuating this thread, which has nothing to do with U2, but... -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!
OK, I hate to keep perpetuating this thread, which has nothing to do with U2, but... That has not been my experience with web forums. Most forum software I have seen brings topics with recent replies to the top, and highlights threads with new activity. I have seen long dormant threads become active again weeks or months later because someone happened to read them and reply. As for the lack of "immediacy", good email integration seems to me to solve that. The argument that, for some people, access to email is more acceptable in their environment than access to email, however, is a very valid one. On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 02:03, Anthony Youngman wrote: > But it is far less "immediate". I sometimes have conversations with > people stateside. I'll find an email when I get to work at 8am BST > (British Summer Time, not Bering Straights Time :-). I'll respond. > > Then the person it was aimed at will get to work at, say, 9am New York > Time, respond, and we bounce ideas around for an hour or so before I go > home. > > A forum relies on me (a) noticing their message at 8am my time - and > forum scanning puts me off - I miss loads. Then (b) they've got to > notice early morning their time that I responded, and (c) I've got to > catch them at it! > > That just won't happen, in the normal course of events. One of the > reasons I've abandoned many fora is that I keep coming across plenty of > conversations that happened while I was away, but could easily have > contributed to. And I get p*ssed off that my (I fool myself they are > relevant) comments get ignored because the subject has now gone stale. > > Cheers, > Wol. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mitchell > Sent: 21 April 2004 00:10 > To: U2 Users Discussion List > Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! > > Why is that an argument? A "forum" is not the same as a chatroom. It > is just as persistent as email. > > On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 16:38, Kate Stanton wrote: > > > >From New Zealand, the main argument against a forum is that we sleep > while > > you work and vice versa. It is 9:30am here now, and 7:30am in Sydney > - > > expect to hear similar story from Australians in about 2 hours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This transmission is intended for the named recipient only. It may contain private > and confidential information. If this has come to you in error you must not act on > anything disclosed in it, nor must you copy it, modify it, disseminate it in any > way, or show it to anyone. Please e-mail the sender to inform us of the transmission > error or telephone ECA International immediately and delete the e-mail from your > information system. > > Telephone numbers for ECA International offices are: Sydney +61 (0)2 9911 7799, Hong > Kong + 852 2121 2388, London +44 (0)20 7351 5000 and New York +1 212 582 2333. > > -- Geoffrey Mitchell 314-684-1062 Programmer/Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Knights Direct -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
OT: veryy OT: RE: We need a web based Forum!
Schalk The boss wouldn't touch this list with a barge pole... No, all knowledge of all things is embodied in which ever human is graced with this privelege (read curse) for the month. The rest of us are best served by saying nothing, seeing nothing, doing nothing (except be in telnet and excel) and most of all never, ever, putting forth theories. Only the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but what he believes in can be ventured... In truth my days are silent. You don't have any positions vacant in sunny douglas do you? Anyone else? Anywhere in Africa? Promise I'll be quiet as a mouse, and churn out lotsa useful utilities, plus any amount of real work... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schalk van Zyl Sent: 21 April 2004 11:28 To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: We need a web based Forum! Dennis, I certainly hope your boss is not on this list! Schalk On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 05:18:49 -0400, Results <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dennis, > If it helps you any, I've had bosses like your over here (U. S.) > and > they come in all nationalities and regions. If misery loves company, > then you have more company in this type of misery than you know. In my > case, my boss isn't the problem (I work for myself in one business and > have a great partner in the second business) but my clients often look > at me the way your boss looks at you. > > - Charles "Listserver" Barouch > > Dennis Bartlett wrote: > The main argument against the forum is that some of you >> out their can >> not "access >> the web". How can anyone in a development role do >> their job properly nowadays >> without being able to "access the web". I am sure that if >> all we had >> was a forum >> on the web, admin departments would be told that X >> needs web access and they >> would get it. >> >> James Hogan, Sungard, >> Dear Sir, >> >> What a luvly world you live in. You have a boss who trusts you. >> You're allowed internet access. You live in a country where >> bandwidth isnt a >> problem. You have an admin dept that "would be told". Of all >> this you >> "are sure". >> >> The real world. Africa. The boss is paranoid. He's Austrian/German. >> He employs engineers and questions their every move. He employs >> programmers, and doubts their every move. If you're not in >> telnet you're >> not working (unles you're in excel), if you have time to >> load the net, >> you don't have enough to do. First hand from idiots is >> always preferable >> to learned advice from the user list. Programmers don't need >> to >> concentrate,keep interrupting them because it broadens their >> abilities >> to understand the company. >> >> F*** what world do you live in... Better you keep your job whatever >> the cost, coz they sure don't make 'em like that over here! >> >> You don't have a position in nirvana for me, do you? >> >> >> > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ - GWK BEPERK/LIMITED (REG: 1997/022252/06) POSBUS 47 PO BOX 8730 DOUGLAS Direkteure/Directors: NB Jacobs, FJ Lawrence, J v/d S Botes, JH Coetzee, JGD Smit, JF Jacobs, AO Müller, JW Smit, JP Snyman, JG Stander, JH van Dyk(MD/BD), JG Jacobs, A Müller, Sekr/Secr: E van Niekerk. Hierdie e-pos is onderworpe aan 'n vrywaring beskikbaar by: http://www.gwk.co.za/DisclaimerVrywaring.asp This e-mail is subjected to the disclaimer that can be viewed at: http://www.gwk.co.za/DisclaimerVrywaring.asp -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
